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  1. Hi Petti, do you have any advice on how to succeed through the FNP program as in any resources you suggest? etc

  2. Patti_RN

    Electronic stethoscope

    Check out eBay. I found an electronic stethoscope for less than $200. I've seen others for sale by nursing school students who drop out, EMTs who say they're selling to raise quick cash, etc. You won't need one with lots of extras (like the ability to record heart sounds), just a basic electronic stethoscope.
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    Importance of good grades!!!

    What's worse? Striving for an A and getting a C? or, striving for a B and getting a D?
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    Single mom of 3, disorganized, discouraged & stressed

    Most of us are parents, and we've juggled school and/ or work with family obligations. When people have difficulty doing so, it's usually because of not studying effectively. The best thing you can do is schedule separate time for studying, for being with your kids, and doing other things. Then stick to that plan. You're not doing your kids a favor, or your school work a favor by letting the other distract you. If you're sitting at your desk and turning every 5 minutes to talk to your kids, you're not really absorbing the information. If you're playing with the kids and you keep pulling out your flash cards, you're not giving the kids your undivided attention. Figure out how much time you need, then devote a block of time to studying each day; if you have to, go to a library so you're not pulled in another direction. Don't take your phone (or at least put it on silent and put it out of sight). Don't check emails. Don't log onto Facebook. Devote the time to studying. And, be organized about it. Break down the work into chapters, or diseases, or systems and focus on ONE thing at a time before you go on. Take notes, write flashcards, or whatever you find to be helpful. Be systematic and organized. When time is up, go back home and spend time with your kids... and don't be tempted to read over your notes. This way, you'll devote yourself to your kids 100% and you'll feel less guilty when you have to study. Think about it this way, when you finish school and you're actually working, you'll have to be away for 8+ hours each day. School can be a bit less of a time demand, but you still have to devote uninterrupted time to studying and classes. Deal with school like it's a job, not like it's an option.
  5. It'll be quite a roller coaster ride, and there will be some great days along with some wicked ones! One of our instructors told us early in the program, "There will be days when you want to quit, when you feel like you can't do it another day... but don't quit! Tell yourself that you'll stick it out until tomorrow... then if you still feel like quitting the next day, tell yourself you'll put in one more day..." I got through some semesters with this advice; I endured one day at a time, and postponed quitting until 'tomorrow'. I finally 'quit' on graduation day! And, at that point I really didn't want nursing school to end! It's a wonderful education and an accomplishment you'll be proud of the rest of your life! Best of luck to you!
  6. A word of caution about for profit schools (or any poorly ranked schools)-- they are expensive, many are not well respected, and the graduates of those programs suffer as a result of their poor reputations. It's tough to find a job if you graduated from a top-tier nursing school; if you attend a poorly ranked school you may find it very, very difficult to get hired. Many students want to hurry through nursing school (or any program) and finish in the shortest time possible. Mostly, this isn't a great idea, but in your case it's understandable. Your current plan seems to make the most sense: finish a two year degree, then complete your BSN at an online respected college or university. If you do have to move in a couple years, you'll have your RN license and the BSN completion can be done pretty much anywhere.
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    Interesting Physician Perspective On NPs

    BlueDevil's comments are fairly accurate--advanced practice practioners are fairly similar, but there tend to be differences. The most significant difference is the ability, aptitude, and skills of the individual. There are good and bad nurses good and bad doctors and good and bad mid-level practitioners; whether an individual is competent or not does not reflect on others of similar training. The next important criterion is the quality of education--there is a HUGE difference in academic rigor between the most demanding and the 'easiest' schools--and the demanding schools generally produce more competent practioners--first, because those admitted to competitive schools are the gifted students already at the top of the class, and second, because those programs are more challenging. This is not to say every single grad of a top-tier program is more skilled than every student at poorly ranked schools--but there is definitely a correlation. In my area, there are three fairly good NP programs and the grads of each are well respected. There is one local PA school with a poor ranking, low pass rate on boards, and the grads are generally thought of as being less competent and not as well prepared. This doesn't mean 'all NPs' are better/ smarter/ more skilled than 'all PAs'; but in our area it's generally true. The inverse could hold in an area where there is a strong PA program and weak NP program, so some opinions may be based on anecdotal information. This could be a great topic for research, but it's probably a subject too charged with ego, emotion, prejudice, and lack of meaningful information to be discussed and determined here.
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    Wrote up a CNA, but I was the one who got the boot!

    There must be some other details that you're not aware of. Many times we don't know how we're perceived by others, or what our colleagues really think of us. It sounds like you have some enemies--not that this is your fault because workplace politics can be uglier than the social dynamics of a middle-school cafeteria. But, whether you did something to provoke the 'mean girls' or not, they seemed to have it out for you--and have the ear of the supervisors. There is probably not much you can do, or even want to do in this situation; getting your job back is probably the last thing on your wish list. But, you can to is turn this into a learning opportunity. If you have any good, trustworthy friends from your employment ask them to go to lunch or have coffee with you (one at a time), then ask them to be candid and tell you what they believe happened. Ask tough questions and be prepared to hear some things you might not like or agree with... Ask what other employees thought about you or said about you (and specifically say you don't want to hear names, just their opinions). Just listen, don't interrupt or argue. Try not to react if what they say is negative--you can say, "this is really hard to hear, but I'd like to learn more." Listen carefully and sit on the information. In the next days and weeks try to consider aspects of what they told you, and try to be open-minded enough to see if there is a shred of truth in their words. If they said you were considered to be 'aloof' or 'lazy' or 'condescending'... or whatever, try to imagine if you may have inadvertently come across that way. If you can see yourself as others may have seen you, this may be a way to make some changes and avoid the same thing happening at your next job. It can be a very, very painful process, but it can lead to less pain in the future. If you can sincerely consider their critiques but not agree, then you were probably the victim of the 'mean girls'. Best of luck. We've all been there at some point, to some extent. It's never easy being the ostracized member of a group. Sometimes it's your fault, often it's not, and sometimes its a combination of the two. I hope you never have to deal with this problem again.
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    Interesting Physician Perspective On NPs

    States differ on what PAs can/ cannot do; ditto for NPs. I believe all (or most) states require PAs to work under a physician, some have the same requirements for NPs; some states don't allow NPs prescriptive authority, but most do; some states don't allow PAs to prescribe.... different states, different rules and scopes of practice. But, generally, NPs have more autonomy and a broader scope of practice than the PAs.
  10. Patti_RN

    Interesting Physician Perspective On NPs

    Personally, I like the autonomy most NPs have (states do vary), but all PAs work under a physician. That, in itself, doesn't make anyone more or less competent. Most NPs do come from a BSN background and most have at least a few years of work experience--that means that after NP school they have about 8 years (or more) of relevant training and experience. I know several PAs with undergrad degrees in fields like Art History, Political Science, etc., who apply to PA school and two years later are prescribing meds. Given the choice of two such practitioners, personally I'd rather be a patient of the NP. I've seen many threads on this site asking about 'easy' or 'fast' or 'cheap' NP programs, and there are certainly those wishing to attend similar PA programs. Beyond the NP vs. PA controversy, it also depends on the caliber school a person attends, and the individual's skills and abilities; a PA who attended a demanding, rigorous program could very well be a better practitioner than an NP who went the 'easy, fast, and cheap' route.
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    8hr vs. 12hr work days

    Not only are the hours of the work day a consideration, but the commuting time, parking expense, fuel or other transportation, and even prep time to go to work are all hours and expenses that should be factored in. We all have to get up, shower, dress, drive (or walk or take transportation) to work, park, get there at least a few minutes early as a 'buffer', and return home at the end of the day. Depending on traffic and distance it could take an hour or two 'door to door' each way. So, that additional time easily adds 10 hours a week to the time burden of work. If you work three 12's it's only 6 hours a week... Same should be considered for wear-and-tear on your car, you fuel expenses, and your parking expenses.
  12. Not, yet, jaelpn! It took a while last time to get the deposit; I suspect Brian is pretty busy with this site and his 'real' job!
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    Anyone know about Maryville's FNP program?

    You get what you pay for!
  14. MrsPolly, I respect your motivations and reasons for wanting to become a nurse and to have your sights on working in a physician's office. You're weighing your family obligations and career goals together. Seeking information is a good thing; and you seem able to hear the messages from experienced nurses telling you that jobs in doctor's offices are not that easy to come by. There are numerous other threads on this board started by starry-eyed wanna-be's who can't seem to understand that they probably won't become the Surgeon General upon graduation from nursing school ("But, I really WANT to be the surgeon general... surely they'll bend the rules for me!!!") It would be nice if we all found some passion early in life and worked exclusively toward that goal. The reality is most of us have been through several 'false starts' before landing in a field we're happy (or at least semi-satisfied) with. So, you're exploring all the possibilities--a good thing. There is nothing wrong with considering different fields to see how they would fit in with your life. If you really want to be a nurse, there are plenty of daylight, Monday through Friday jobs out there. You'll probably have to put in a couple years to gain experience before landing one. Is that something you could do if it worked into your long-term plan? Working night shift isn't all bad--especially if you know you'll be doing it for a year or two. Or, working weekends? That's IF you get hired, at all... One of the huge problems right now is there are few nursing jobs out there, especially for new grads. Nursing schools have been graduating tons of students in the last few years, older nurses aren't retiring at the rate that was expected, and few new positions have been created. So, each year many grads fail to find jobs. If you don't find a job in your first 6 months after graduation, your prospects become worse and worse as the fresh new grads are hired and the 'stale' grads get passed over again, and again. Don't give up on a dream because others have thrown cold water, but don't be so starry-eyed that you can't be realistic. You seem to be on the right path: explore, know your interests and limitations, and get advice. Then, make an informed decision. There are no guarantees in life, but proceeding this way will give you the best shot at success.
  15. Thanks to Brian, Joe, and the rest who organized this contest and encouraged us to share our nursing stories. Hopefully, this contest will be even more popular in the future. The articles were great; we could either identify with the situations, or we learned by the experiences of others.
  16. Patti_RN

    Getting a job - from the employers perspective

    When I see resumes with three month 'jobs' (one in psych, one in med surg, one in peds, etc) during their nursing school years, it's obvious that these are clinical rotations and educational experiences, not part of their employment history. It's also lying and dishonest. I'd rather hire a new grad with no experience than someone who twists their resume in an attempt to deceive.

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