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Achieve Test Prep for CNA to RN

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by LJ1 LJ1 (New) New Nurse

Hello, my wife who is a CNA is interested in using Achieve for an accelerated RN program.  The wait lists for regular schools/colleges are 1+years out so being able to start now is a plus.  She never completed college and only took a handful of courses.

After speaking to an Achieve counselor, the way the program works is they gave a list of classes that she can immediately test out of by, and then take about 5 other courses at the local community college, although its not taking a full course.  It's more of attending once a week with a professor they coordinated with and the class isn't as long as a typical college class.  This allows the flexibility to still work full time while taking these courses.

Then after getting through those, there are RN specific courses to take that follow a similar structure.  All in all, can complete all the courses and have the college credits in one year and then submit/take the NCLEX.

Total cost is about $11K, which normally would be a lot but we've saved our government stimulus from Covid and that's basically how much we got from the IRS.

Now we could probably do it for half the cost but in at least twice as long, so the accelerated option is enticing for us.

Been searching online and keep seeing random posts about negative things with Achieve although they are vague.  So looking to get some specifics on whether this program is legit.  Willing to pay extra to get an accelerated program so if there is another better program am interested to hear. 

NutmeggeRN, BSN

Specializes in kids. Has 25 years experience.

Please be sure to find out if the school where the nursing classes are being taken, (and she is guaranteed to be accepted), will accept those credits/prereqs before spending all that money.

meanmaryjean, DNP, RN

Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia. Has 44 years experience.

Achieve Test Prep is not a school, cannot guarantee entrance/ admission into any school and has been sued/ investigated by the Attorneys General of multiple states. 

Waiting to find a legit, accredited SCHOOL is worth it. 

^ What she said. Read the fine print.

NutmeggeRN, BSN

Specializes in kids. Has 25 years experience.

The quickest and cheapest is not always the best. The journey is just as important.

Jedrnurse, BSN, RN

Specializes in school nurse. Has 29 years experience.

Eleven thousand dollars will seem like even more when it doesn't end up with your wife having a license. 

Don't do it. If there are wait lists, advise her to use the time to take core courses that would be applicable to the legit programs.

This is the entity which was involved in extensive litigation with the owner/administrators/some members of this website a few years back, in which this site prevailed.  

Thanks for the feedback.  So are there any accelerated RN programs that are legit?  Since most of the regular schools have a significant wait list, there is nothing we can take now (even for regular gen-ED) so we are willing to pay a premium to get started now, while we currently have free time.

Jedrnurse, BSN, RN

Specializes in school nurse. Has 29 years experience.

8 minutes ago, LJ1 said:

Thanks for the feedback.  So are there any accelerated RN programs that are legit?  Since most of the regular schools have a significant wait list, there is nothing we can take now (even for regular gen-ED) so we are willing to pay a premium to get started now, while we currently have free time.

Do you mean all the English/Math/Sciences/Psychology courses have been taken? These will be necessary, and it's possible to take these as a non-matriculated student.

ABSN programs are accelerated BSN programs however I believe a bachelors degree may be required. Not sure, so be sure to check. If possible for her she should be aware that the programs are competitive, intense, one can’t work. Many drop back to regular programs because they find the pace too intense.

klone, MSN, RN

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership. Has 15 years experience.

The only accelerated RN programs that exist are programs for people who already hold bachelors degrees in another field. They're 12-18 month long programs that are VERY intense, and you cannot work while doing them, because you will be doing nothing but school and clinicals.

Alternatively, there are year-long programs that are LPN-RN bridge programs, that also include lots of clinical time in the hospital setting, as well as coursework.

Achieve is not one of them.

I'm going to refrain from saying anything more because I don't want to get sued.

klone, MSN, RN

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership. Has 15 years experience.

Ask this Achieve counselor where she does her clinical rotations. Every state requires a certain number of hours of clinicals in a hospital setting before you can sit for the NCLEX. The clinical rotation with the hospital is through an affiliation agreement between a hospital and a local nursing school. Ask the Achieve counselor with which nursing school those local hospitals have that affiliation agreement, and how she would do her clinical rotation if she's not actually a student of that nursing school. I'm curious what the answer is.

klone, MSN, RN

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership. Has 15 years experience.

3 hours ago, LJ1 said:

Thanks for the feedback.  So are there any accelerated RN programs that are legit?  Since most of the regular schools have a significant wait list, there is nothing we can take now (even for regular gen-ED) so we are willing to pay a premium to get started now, while we currently have free time.

Look into Rio Salado Community College - it's through the Maricopa Community College system (Phoenix Arizona), it's all online, and the credits are transferrable mostly everywhere. She can start there with her general education and science prerequisites.

NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion. Has 44 years experience.

Since your wife never completed college, she is ineligible for an accelerated BSN/MSN program as they requires a previous bachelors degree,

See  CCNE nursing accreditation website to identify collegiate nursing programs available in your area.   National League for Nursing CNEA accredits associate, diploma and bachelor programs too, searchable by state.

Best wishes in finding a program. One year wait is not as bad as three years in some states like SE PA and California.

 

Fine print from the bottom of Achieve Test Prep online Ad

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Achieve Test Prep is a college education consultant and test preparation center that helps you earn your degree faster. Achieve Test Prep is not a college and does not issue degrees or give college credit. The programs listed above and elsewhere on this website are test preparation programs offered by Achieve Test Prep to prepare you to take exams from an independent accredited college or an independent testing center. Achieve purposefully remains independent and does not align itself with any college nor do we commit to any agreements with any college. By being truly independent, we offer a completely non-biased approach to recommending the best possible college route to our students. While Achieve Test Prep is an expert on the policies and procedures of many colleges, the final decisions about credits and degrees rests with the colleges. You must independently apply for and be accepted into a college.

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londonflo

Specializes in oncology. Has 44 years experience.

On 6/9/2021 at 10:48 AM, LJ1 said:

although its not taking a full course.  I

 

On 6/9/2021 at 10:48 AM, LJ1 said:

the class isn't as long as a typical college class. 

 

On 6/9/2021 at 10:48 AM, LJ1 said:

 This allows the flexibility to still work full time while taking these courses.

 

On 6/9/2021 at 10:48 AM, LJ1 said:

All in all, can complete all the courses and have the college credits in one year and then submit/take the NCLEX.

This is a BIG scam...Why wouldn't every one do this? 

Make sure you always look at:

NCLEX RATES

GRADUATION RATES

NON-Profit or FOR-Profit

General progression of education - CNA to RN in ONE year? Minimally it is 2 years and usually after general education courses are done. 

Please do thorough investigation...go out to your community college, talk to non-profit college people, talk to practicing nurses.

 

ThursdayNight, CNA

Specializes in Wiping tears. Has 3 years experience.

On 6/9/2021 at 2:23 PM, LJ1 said:

Thanks for the feedback.  So are there any accelerated RN programs that are legit?  Since most of the regular schools have a significant wait list, there is nothing we can take now (even for regular gen-ED) so we are willing to pay a premium to get started now, while we currently have free time.

All the schools I know don't care about your premium. We all get through the selection process. In some nursing schools, after failing mathematics twice and also must pass it with a grade B or higher, the student is out.  All the sciences must be B and greater. Failing 2x or 3x, the student is out. So failing one of the classes is enough to disqualify a student from applying. Another challenge is to pass a nursing entrance exam. In my experience, I'm a student nurse, this was limited to three tries. I passed the first try, but I wanted to be competitive. I took it and scored higher.  In some nursing schools, the applicants can only take, for example, TEAS-ATI, 2x otherwise try to pass at 3x and find the nursing schools that accept 3x attempts. 

When a student is officially accepted and admitted into the nursing program, the medication calculation must be passed at 90% to 100%. In my school, 2 mistakes are a fail. After failing it, depending on which nursing school your wife is in, she can probably retake 2x or 3x. She fails it, she will be withdrawn from the program and reapply. This is also limited. 

FYI, I'm not underestimating your wife's intelligence. If she can wing everything in one year including her RN, let me know. I'll clone her. 

Even with a quarterly class, I don't even know how she will magically complete the general education alone.  🤔 

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londonflo

Specializes in oncology. Has 44 years experience.

On 6/9/2021 at 4:23 PM, LJ1 said:

So are there any accelerated RN programs that are legit?  Since most of the regular schools have a significant wait list, there is nothing we can take now (even for regular gen-ED) so we are willing to pay a premium to get started now, while we currently have free time.

Since the salary for RNs rose, because of the complexity of the job, the competition for school slots has increased. As you have found, the scammers also come out in full force. If they have your telephone number and email, they will keep dinging you with more false claims and enticements (may be block them)

You need to have a discussion with your wife as to why she wants to be an RN. Since her college experience is limited, does she understand the effort and time science courses like anatomy and physiology. Microbiology take? Then craft the plan to allow her to devote her time to school. Glad you have a nest egg. Think about making sure she has the freed-up time to study. 

There is no way to 'cut in line' but there IS time for her to learn, grow and see if the RN profession is one she wants. 

I truly wish the best for both of you...there are no short cuts, and as I said earlier, community college is probably the fastest/cheapest route.

In order to even apply to nursing school, your wife will need complete several prerequisite course. Then, during nursing school, there will be several more non-nursing courses (science, English, psychology, etc). My advice is simple. Cast a wide net. Nursing school admission can be difficult. 
 

1. Identify the nursing schools near you. There is no such thing as an online nursing school. Investigate these schools. NCLEX pass rates, graduation rates, tuition, accreditation, non-profit/for profit, etc. Typical for profit courses do not transfer to non profit schools. Do not overlook community colleges. There are plenty of RN-to-BSN programs, many of which are online. 
 

2. Identify the prerequisite courses at the schools you identified above. Most schools have a way to determine if a course taken at another school will be deemed equivalent to its course. Some schools give preference if you take the pre-requisite at that school, but others don’t. Try to  take classes that will transfer, if needed, when you start applying. I’d take these classes predominately at the school you want to go to for nursing school.  But try to find equivalents so you can apply elsewhere as well. 

3. Take prerequisite classes. Get A’s in them. A lot of these can be done online (science classes with labs tend to be in person, at least the lab portion. Online labs tend to not be transferable if you do find one.)

4. Do whatever else is required to apply (volunteer, shadow, TEAS test, etc.)

5. Apply to nursing school. If you don’t get in, start taking the general education classes (again, make sure they transfer).