Achieve Test Prep for CNA to RN

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Hello, my wife who is a CNA is interested in using Achieve for an accelerated RN program.  The wait lists for regular schools/colleges are 1+years out so being able to start now is a plus.  She never completed college and only took a handful of courses.

After speaking to an Achieve counselor, the way the program works is they gave a list of classes that she can immediately test out of by, and then take about 5 other courses at the local community college, although its not taking a full course.  It's more of attending once a week with a professor they coordinated with and the class isn't as long as a typical college class.  This allows the flexibility to still work full time while taking these courses.

Then after getting through those, there are RN specific courses to take that follow a similar structure.  All in all, can complete all the courses and have the college credits in one year and then submit/take the NCLEX.

Total cost is about $11K, which normally would be a lot but we've saved our government stimulus from Covid and that's basically how much we got from the IRS.

Now we could probably do it for half the cost but in at least twice as long, so the accelerated option is enticing for us.

Been searching online and keep seeing random posts about negative things with Achieve although they are vague.  So looking to get some specifics on whether this program is legit.  Willing to pay extra to get an accelerated program so if there is another better program am interested to hear. 

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

Be sure to visit allnurses STUDENT  section --chock full of helpful advice for those considering a nursing career.

Check out Khan Academy -- they offer free online courses, lessons & practice tests.  AN's pre-nursing students have stated that they passed CLEP exams using their resources.   I visited site for a refresher on ratios when my older brain couldn't figure out a math problem.

Your wife needs to check with the nursing programs in your area to see if CLEP credits accepted as some will accept a limited #. Additionally, some colleges will accept limited # outside courses, expect that at least 1/2 courses need to be taken at that institution in order to graduate.     Hope you can get maximal value with minimal financial expense upfront as unexpected expenses crop up in nursing school -- book fees, travel and parking at clinical sites, meals, graduation expenses etc.

We need more nurses to replace us baby boomers now retiring,  wishing your wife a successful journey.

Specializes in oncology.
1 hour ago, londonflo said:

This is My  personal opinion of the LPN to RN video presented on the Achieve Test Prep website

 

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From the small print on their site:

Achieve purposefully remains independent and does not align itself with any college nor do we commit to any agreements with any college

I went to the Achieve site to see what they were actually saying. First of all, overall they are a CLEP preparation site which is not unique. It would always be best to deal with CLEP testing with the company that actually writes the tests.

https://clep.collegeboard.org/exams?ef_id=CjwKCAjwtpGGBhBJEiwAyRZX2nvNWdK2kvzypEyN32p1mMrnyMUM0_o3EPKfETjSaXHSoQXvWCUQUBoC6vAQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!4330!3!525593292396!e!!g!!clep tests!1493550655!57249022043&gclid=CjwKCAjwtpGGBhBJEiwAyRZX2nvNWdK2kvzypEyN32p1mMrnyMUM0_o3EPKfETjSaXHSoQXvWCUQUBoC6vAQAvD_BwE

Secondly, they minimize, NO, actually they diss the courses that substantially contribute to the preparation and practice of nursing  such as Microbiology, sociology, growth and development stating you will learn 'just enough to pass the test'. Advanced concepts from these classes are part of the foundation of nursing and needed to pass NCLEX and practice nursing in today's society. My experience of over 40 years of teaching and evaluating students' necessary knowledge for NCLEX and the practice of nursing substantiate my claims.

The  6 minute video for the LPN to RN preparation further states they teach practical skills such as IV insertion through sending the IV catheters, syringes, and even an IV arm for students to demonstrate via web cam the acquisition of their skills!

Their video lists schools that accept the preparation and instruction they give in their nursing science for credit. One school is 'Brown Mackie' which closed in 2016. 

The video glosses over their refund policy and other factual information. It was a scary 6 minutes I wish I had back. 

 

 

 

Specializes in oncology.
1 hour ago, LJ1 said:

But their program also appears to bypass the wait lists at other schools. 

Please, can you show me where the web site says this? If they just say this, please ask for it in writing with some actual examples of students who have done this. 

Specializes in Physiology, CM, consulting, nsg edu, LNC, COB.
On 6/11/2021 at 5:00 PM, LJ1 said:

Achieve is saying is for the basic courses she can test out, so basically take a fresher training and in a couple months test out of most of the Gen ED, then can focus on taking the more complex courses. 

What this means is she would have to be enrolled at a real school and apply to them to test out of their course based on their criteria. Breezily saying, “She can just test out” is very misleading.

11 hours ago, londonflo said:

"we", odd. Most community colleges have open admissions, meaning anyone can take classes. You do not need to be attached to a program unless that program has 'selective' admissions. Matriculated means enrolled so you are saying she can take some classes with a status of being "unenrolled"? Are you saying she can take nursing classes without being accepted into the nursing program? Be aware that possibility does not exist anywhere in actuality.  

Enrolled and matriculated are not necessarily the same. Many colleges/universities differentiate between people who take random classes and those who are accepted into a degree-granting program. You can enroll in a Summer course at Yale, but that doesn't mean you are a matriculated student on your way to an ivy-league degree.  

My master's program (non-nursing) would only allow students to take 9 credits before matriculating. I wanted to take more, and had to sign a waiver attesting to my non-matriculated status (presumably so people couldn't use that as a loophole to bypass the application/selection process).

I think you're both talking about the same thing: taking prerequisites or co-requisites without being admitted to a nursing program.  I doubt any school would allow a non-matriculated student to enroll in actual nursing courses, but taking required non-nursing classes is a way to start the process.

A lot of people on here have clearly dedicated quite a bit of time to their replies, including going to research Achieve. Please listen to them. Achieve is going to tell you what you want to hear because they want your money. We're on here for free because we care about other nurses and people looking to become nurses.  Which source is more credible?

Basically, everything Achieve is telling you is misleading at best and a scam at worst.  $11K for test prep? Ridiculous! $11K will buy you two years of full-time community college tuition in my state.  No joke - real professors, real labs, with real credits that transfer to real nursing programs.

By all means, get a start on things by taking prerequisites or studying for CLEP (after enrolling in a school that accepts CLEP).  But if there are waitlists, you don't jump the line because you took a CLEP exam.  The only way I could see this as being sorta-kinda-true is if they mean you become eligible faster because you finished prerequisites faster by testing instead of taking a course. But you don't need Achieve for that.

 

Specializes in ER/MS Tele/ Oncology/ NP student.

There’s no such thing as an online RN program , entry level for RN is either ADN, through the LPN to RN route, or diploma.  All those routes you have to go to class in order to get clinical with the classes together .  She needs pre-reqs first such as English 1 and 2 , statistics , Microbiology with lab , anatomy and physiology 1 and 2 with lab and a sociology course.  You can’t do labs online , they have to be done in a brick and mortar .  My advice is to go to community college and do those pre-reqs, get high GPA and then apply to an RN program or do LPN for a year then bridge to RN. 

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.
8 hours ago, BxRN718 said:

 She needs pre-reqs first such as English 1 and 2 , statistics , Microbiology with lab , anatomy and physiology 1 and 2 with lab and a sociology course.  You can’t do labs online, they have to be done in a brick andmortar .  

 

 

Yeah you can. I took Microbiology, A&P1 and A&P 2 from the comfort of my living room 17 years ago. 
 

As I previously mentioned in this thread, check out Rio Salado Community College, part of the Maricopa County community college network (in AZ). I took almost all of my prerequisites through that school because I could do it online while my little ones were at home with me, and those prerequisite credits were accepted/transferred in to my college’s nursing program. 

Specializes in ER/MS Tele/ Oncology/ NP student.
35 minutes ago, klone said:

 She needs pre-reqs first such as English 1 and 2 , statistics , Microbiology with lab , anatomy and physiology 1 and 2 with lab and a sociology course.  You can’t do labs online, they have to be done in a brick andmortar .  

 

 

Yeah you can. I took Microbiology, A&P1 and A&P 2 from the comfort of my living room 17 years ago. 
 

As I previously mentioned in this thread, check out Rio Salado Community College, part of the Maricopa County community college network (in AZ). I took almost all of my prerequisites through that school because I could do it online while my little ones were at home with me, and those prerequisite credits were accepted/transferred in to my college’s nursing program. 

How did you do a lab online when you need to look at slides in a microscope , identify layers if the skin, and pass a lab exam ? California would deny your licensure.  

Specializes in ER/MS Tele/ Oncology/ NP student.
56 minutes ago, klone said:

 She needs pre-reqs first such as English 1 and 2 , statistics , Microbiology with lab , anatomy and physiology 1 and 2 with lab and a sociology course.  You can’t do labs online, they have to be done in a brick andmortar .  

 

 

Yeah you can. I took Microbiology, A&P1 and A&P 2 from the comfort of my living room 17 years ago. 
 

As I previously mentioned in this thread, check out Rio Salado Community College, part of the Maricopa County community college network (in AZ). I took almost all of my prerequisites through that school because I could do it online while my little ones were at home with me, and those prerequisite credits were accepted/transferred in to my college’s nursing program. 

My apologies , I looked it up and looks like some schools have a virtual lab portion .  I was always told the lab had to be in person .  

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

"online anatomy course with lab"   

Per University of New England online  100% Online, Self-Paced Courses

Each course with Lab costs $1,510

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  ANAT 1005: Anatomy Lecture & Lab

How do labs work?

This course includes hands-on dissection of actual organs, as well as the use of virtual 3D interactive anatomy software that will allow students to perform virtual dissections.

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How do labs work?

For BIOL 1020L, coursework will consist of laboratory exercise assignments, a lab report and a final lab exam. All lab work will be conducted utilizing a take-home lab kit purchased within your course.

 

 

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.
4 hours ago, BxRN718 said:

How did you do a lab online when you need to look at slides in a microscope , identify layers if the skin, and pass a lab exam ? California would deny your licensure.  

Weird, because I have a California license.

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