A Few Words from Dr. Anthony Fauci

This article is based on excerpts from an interview with Dr. Fauci on November 16, 2020, for the annual meeting of the American Medical Informatics Association. Nurses COVID Article

A Few Words from Dr. Anthony Fauci

Dr. Fauci is a world-renowned physician. As the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, he is an expert on the COVID-19 pandemic. He has served the American public for over 50 years, working with the National Institutes of Health. He was recently named Honorary Fellow of the American Academy of Nursing. “This distinction is only given to top health leaders who have demonstrated a firm commitment to nursing and to transforming health policy.” (American Academy of Nursing, August 2020)

This week, he was interviewed for the American Medical Informatics Association’s (AMIA) annual meeting which took place online. He was interviewed by the head of the National Library of Medicine, Dr. Patricia Flatley Brennan, and the AMIA President, Dr. Eneida Mendonca. 

Here are some of the comments excerpted from the interview: 

(Not verbatim quotes)

1.  What stands out to you about COVID-19?

This outbreak is like none other. Our country and the world has been threatened by several pandemics: 1918, 1957, 1968, 2009, Ebola, Zika. Pandemics happen. But no other virus has behaved like this one. 40% of those who contract it are asymptomatic. Of those with symptoms, 80% recover without medical intervention. But then there are the 15-20% who get sick enough to need treatment and some die. We simply need more data to understand this disease better. 

It is important that we follow those who have been sick long term so that we understand the long-term effects of COVID-19. Why is it that some people stay sick for a long time? We need to know more about that and pursue an understanding of the pathophysiology of how the virus affects the human body. It might be that a registry will help us follow patients better long term. 

2.  What do we need to teach medical professionals that are coming up?

- Be prepared. Pandemics happen.

- Preparation keeps us from chasing after a pandemic which is generally not a good formula for success.

- We need to work to understand the role of science in public health. Science will ultimately help us get out by helping us understand the pathophysiology and by discovering a vaccine.

- Teach science as early as you can. For those who have the inclination, it is so exciting to study science that it is almost love at first sight. Maybe learning science early is like learning a second language early, If young people are so inclined, they get smitten.

3.  How do you do research during a pandemic?

We must continue to do research because we have to be careful to do more good than harm. Research and double-blind, case-controlled studies can protect us all. Randomized case-controlled trials are the ethically sound way to get to answers. 

When we first heard about COVID-19, it was January 9, 2020. On January 10, we talked with Moderna and now they have the vaccine that is 94% effective. We are very happy about that. We would have been happy with 75% but we got 94%! Ten years ago, it would have taken 3 years to get a vaccine. But because of the technology and research we were already doing, that was already in place, we were able to come out with a vaccine so quickly. Genomic epidemiology helped us trace the origin of the virus that hit New York back to Europe and Italy. Because of science, we knew where to focus our efforts. 

4.  What are some challenges that we face?

We need to rebuild our public health system.

We need to strengthen the global health surveillance systems that are interconnected and transparent to the world. One thing is for sure: microbes will emerge. 75% of those that afflict humans are zoonotic ( transmitted to humans from animals). We cannot prevent that but we can be ready.

5.  How do we combat the mistrust of science?

We must be:

  • Transparent
  • Consistent
  • Honest—like apple pie and motherhood.

What is harmful is something called “false equivalencies.” For example, back when we were working on HIV, a group of scientists and Berkeley came out saying that AIDS was not caused by HIV but by behavior. Because they had credentials, it sounded like they knew what they were talking about but they were wrong. We were speaking the truth. People hearing both sides in the news were confused.  This is hard.

6.  How do we help people understand the safety and efficacy of the vaccine?

This is an important point. The public needs to understand that the system to approve vaccines cannot be manipulated by business. It is impossible. The data are analyzed independently. It is not beholden to ANYONE. Statisticians look at it and either stop or declare it effective. It is really important to understand that there is no way for a company to manipulate this part of the process. There is also an advisory committee to the FDA. After that all the data is open to the public so that scientists can examine it. The idea that we can “sneak” something through is an impossibility. 

The speed did not compromise reliability. It reflects the new technology and the amount of money we put into it. We were doing things in parallel as opposed to sequentially. Normally, you prove it works before you produce. In this case, we took a financial risk and vaccines started production while still in the process of approval. This is because, as a society, we decided it was important enough to do it this way. 

7.  What are the take-home messages?

- Wear a mask. Do the common sense things to protect yourself and others.

- Wash your hands, stay at a safe distance, don’t gather in groups.

- Skip large groupings this year. We have exciting, impressive vaccine data. Help is on the way but the cavalry is not here yet. We need to take this knowledge and let it motivate us to stay the course. This is not the time for people to travel to large family gatherings. This is a tough time. 

- Small gatherings this year so 2021 will be a great year!

Help is on the way but the cavalry is not here yet.  Anthony Fauci

Dave is right on target here, thank you Sir. 

Fauci the fraud. It's hilarious to me how even nurses can say that they will only trust one person when it comes to infectious diseases , and that person is Dr. Fauci . Laughable and closed minded

4 hours ago, Jack Peace said:

Fauci the fraud. It's hilarious to me how even nurses can say that they will only trust one person when it comes to infectious diseases , and that person is Dr. Fauci . Laughable and closed minded

Their servile conformity to a patriarch construct takes our profession backwards to the 1950s and put public health at risk because nobody dares to ask questions.

Physicians and nurses are being censored on all every platform for not towing the "official narrative". 

It's almost like some people are rooting to the virus, masks, lockdowns and a vaccine.

It's like they have Stockholm syndrome and enjoy wearing the mask.

If Fauci said that covid was transmitted in flatulence most this forum would be like:

 

4 hours ago, DaveMHA-RN said:

Their servile conformity to a patriarch construct takes our profession backwards to the 1950s and put public health at risk because nobody dares to ask questions.

Physicians and nurses are being censored on all every platform for not towing the "official narrative". 

It's almost like some people are rooting to the virus, masks, lockdowns and a vaccine.

It's like they have Stockholm syndrome and enjoy wearing the mask.

If Fauci said that covid was transmitted in flatulence most this forum would be like:

????? thanks for the laughter. Indeed, the blissful acquiescence to fallible narratives of the powers that be without an iota of skepticism is quite concerning, especially coming from people who apparently hold science in high regard. It is only a foolish cow that laughs at the prospect of being taken to the abattoir. Some of the sanctimonious prigs think Fauci is altruistic and him getting questioned is beneath his elite stature. Sigh. 

2 minutes ago, cynical-RN said:

????? thanks for the laughter. Indeed, the blissful acquiescence to fallible narratives of the powers that be without an iota of skepticism is quite concerning, especially coming from people who apparently hold science in high regard. It is only a foolish cow that laughs at the prospect of being taken to the abattoir. Some of the sanctimonious prigs think Fauci is altruistic and him getting questioned is beneath his elite stature. Sigh. 

You're welcome. ?

Fauci is not altruistic -he is a conflicted as a man can get. He is beholden to Bill Gates and has taken plenty of his money. Can somebody explain how receiving money from the biggest vaccine pusher on the planet is not a conflict.

I'll bet somebody misread my last post and thought is was Fauci's latest recommendation. They are having a good time now.? ??

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1 hour ago, Jack Peace said:

Fauci the fraud. It's hilarious to me how even nurses can say that they will only trust one person when it comes to infectious diseases , and that person is Dr. Fauci . Laughable and closed minded

Sure.

Your feelings are noted.  It's sort of embarrassing for you that your feelings seem to be based in some partisan animus, but they're noted. Calling a respected health professional a fraud reflects more about you than it reflects upon Fauci.  We know who he is and what his professional career looks like...we don't know you at all and your comments look more like trolling than like the thinking of a health professional.  

But yeah...you feel a way about Dr Fauci. LOL

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The conspiracy theories are running deep.  Remember this from “Shooter”?

“Mr. Rate: Whoever took that shot's probably dead now. That's how conspiracy works. Them boys on the grassy knoll, they were dead within three hours. Buried in the damn desert. Unmarked graves out past Terlingua.

Nick Memphis: And you know this for a fact?

Mr. Rate: Still got the shovel!”

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2 hours ago, DaveMHA-RN said:

Fauci does not see patient at NIAID -he is the director. It is a quasi-governmental organization rife with politics. So you the acts strait. 

"trying to damage the character of a prominent health professional"

Cry me a frigging river. People have every right to point out conflicts of interest with public officials and Fauci is conflicted. NAAID has taken millions from the Gates Foundation. Gates is not a scientist but he has said things will never go back to normal without a vaccine. Gate's immunization programs in India and Africa killed thousands and left many infertile.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/did-bill-gates-buy-the-CDC/#:~:text=Dr. Anthony Fauci has a %24100 million conflict,pledged %24100 million for Fauci to play with.

" you end up looking like a partisan fool with no credibility. "

It is YOU who is the partisan fool with no credibility. 

Here's what Fauci said in his own words about masks before he flip-flopped to appease Bill Gates and left-wing politicians:

 

So wait a minute, you use an article that knocks fauci for knocking chloroquine when it turns out that fauci was correct? Did I miss something there? Not sure I understand how that argument works. 

And it appears armstrong didn’t really do the rest of his homework either, the $100m wasn’t all to the CDC:

“Of the Gates Foundation’s promised $100 million in funding, up to $20 million will go towards agencies such as the World Health Organization (WHO) and U.S. Center for Disease Control (CDC) to aid front-line detection, containment, and treatment, according to the announcement.

Another $20 million will help enhance protections for at-risk populations in Africa and South Asia, regions that the foundation says tend to get most hard hit by epidemics. Funds will help public health authorities strengthen emergency centers, implement effective disease surveillance efforts and improve treatment capacity. 

The remaining $60 million will go towards the longer-term development of vaccines, treatments and diagnostics for sustainable control and prevention to keep the virus from spreading. Global partners such as the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI) and various other public and private sector research labs will receive additional support.”

From the well known liberal forbes - https://www.forbes.com/sites/tracywang/2020/02/05/billionaire-philanthropist-bill-gates-announces-100-million-commitment-to-fight-coronavirus-global-health-crisis/?sh=4dbe40dd20be

13 hours ago, Jack Peace said:

When you realize you have been mislead, only then will you see it. Pandemic? Start with plandemic, who stands to benefit from antivirals, mass vaccination, small businesses forced to close while corporations are allowed to remain open??

That doesn’t work. I don’t have a single cell in my body prone to believing conspiracy theories or any kind of quackery or woo. I only believe facts, evidence and logic. If you think I’ve been mislead, you need to provide proof that what you believe is correct. First of all, you need to define what it is you believe in the first place. That’s not clear.

You are offering some extremely vague hints about the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals. Again, what do you think the link is between these goals and the pandemic?

Do you think that the world is run by some kind of James Bond movie type villain? If that’s the case, then who or what? Is it the United Nations? The pharmaceutical companies? Pence? Soros? Gates? The 5G crowd? The Illuminati? The deep state?? (<— love that one. It’s so vague. Amorphous and all-encompassing. Fits most needs.)

The plandemic??? What’s that supposed to mean? Again, I need evidence. And when the claim ranks high on the looney tunes scale, the amount of evidence needed to convince me increases exponentially. 
 


 

2 hours ago, emtb2rn said:

So wait a minute, you use an article that knocks fauci for knocking chloroquine when it turns out that fauci was correct? Did I miss something there? Not sure I understand how that argument works. 

And it appears armstrong didn’t really do the rest of his homework either, the $100m wasn’t all to the CDC:

“Of the Gates Foundation’s promised $100 million in funding, up to $20 million will go towards agencies such as the World Health Organization (WHO) and U.S. Center for Disease Control (CDC) to aid front-line detection, containment, and treatment, according to the announcement.

Another $20 million will help enhance protections for at-risk populations in Africa and South Asia, regions that the foundation says tend to get most hard hit by epidemics. Funds will help public health authorities strengthen emergency centers, implement effective disease surveillance efforts and improve treatment capacity. 

The remaining $60 million will go towards the longer-term development of vaccines, treatments and diagnostics for sustainable control and prevention to keep the virus from spreading. Global partners such as the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI) and various other public and private sector research labs will receive additional support.”

From the well known liberal forbes - https://www.forbes.com/sites/tracywang/2020/02/05/billionaire-philanthropist-bill-gates-announces-100-million-commitment-to-fight-coronavirus-global-health-crisis/?sh=4dbe40dd20be

Fauci was correct on masks until he flip-flopped. Fauci incorrect on chloroquine as many physicians have used it to treat COVID. The reason Fauci poo-pooed chloroquine is because he took Gates money and Gates wants a vaccine -which is a conflict of interest.

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1 hour ago, DaveMHA-RN said:

Fauci was correct on masks until he flip-flopped. Fauci incorrect on chloroquine as many physicians have used it to treat COVID. The reason Fauci poo-pooed chloroquine is because he took Gates money and Gates wants a vaccine -which is a conflict of interest.

Bwahahaha 

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 Mar. 27, 2015: Why NIH's Anthony Fauci is treating Ebola patients himself

As head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), Anthony Fauci wields a $4.4 billion research budget and has a punishing schedule. But the past 2 weeks, Fauci, 74, has reserved 2 hours on most days to put on a protective plastic suit and help treat a U.S. health care worker who became infected with Ebola in Sierra Leone...

 ...   A medical doctor who has headed NIAID for 30 years, Fauci has treated countless patients at the Clinical Center of the National Institutes of Health (NIH)—of which NIAID is a part—in Bethesda, Maryland. "I do believe that one gets unique insights into disease when you actually physically interact with patients," he says. In the case of Ebola, Fauci says he also wanted to show his staff that he wouldn't ask them to do anything he wouldn't do himself; in addition, "it is very exciting and gratifying to participate in saving someone’s life," he says.

Fauci also helped treat Dallas nurse Nina Pham, who was hospitalized at the Clinical Center for 8 days in October and visited President Barack Obama after she recovered...

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/03/why-nihs-anthony-fauci-treating-ebola-patients-himself 

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October 21, 2014: National Nurses Statement on New CDC Ebola Guidelines

https://www.nationalnursesunited.org/press/national-nurses-statement-new-CDC-ebola-guidelines

The attached alert was sent to many hospitals, health departments, the CDC, and politicians, including the President. After attending classes we insisted our employers educate their staff o prepare for the possibility that we could need to care for an infected patient AND to be extra alert to a patient who had recently been in one of the countries where people were dying of Ebola.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nurses-union-dallas-hospital-lacked-ebola-protocols/

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