A Few Words from Dr. Anthony Fauci

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by jeastridge jeastridge, BSN, RN (Trusted Brand)

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This article is based on excerpts from an interview with Dr. Fauci on November 16, 2020, for the annual meeting of the American Medical Informatics Association. You are reading page 3 of A Few Words from Dr. Anthony Fauci. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

toomuchbaloney

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On 11/21/2020 at 4:10 PM, cynical-RN said:

You think Dr. Fauci is beyond questioning if a serious inquiry was set up? What's with this unthinking hero worshiping? Nobody is beyond questioning. Accountability starts by answering what went wrong and what could have been done to improve the situation.

Hero worshiping? Where did I even imply that he is beyond questioning? 

Why is this individual member of the task force being singled out as an example of someone who should be held accountable for mismanagement of the federal pandemic response? Why is Dr Fauci the focus of your concern?

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On 11/21/2020 at 5:05 PM, toomuchbaloney said:

Hero worshiping? Where did I even imply that he is beyond questioning? 

Why is this individual member of the task force being singled out as an example of someone who should be held accountable for mismanagement of the federal pandemic response? Why is Dr Fauci the focus of your concern?

I explicitly said that nobody is beyond questioning. Therefore, I am not singling out Dr. Fauci.

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why shouldn't Dr. Fauci be questioned by a commission of inquiry related to the mismanagement of Covid19 and its mitigation? 

The disease exists. The response was complete blown out of proportion to suit a political goal. And continues to be. And they depend on their useful idiots to obey and comply. Laughable. The only places that had issues were those that created then and then fanned the flames. 

toomuchbaloney

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17 minutes ago, cynical-RN said:

why shouldn't Dr. Fauci be questioned by a commission of inquiry related to the mismanagement of Covid19 and its mitigation? 

Please quote where I said he shouldn't be.  My question remains...why him specifically and what are the standards used to measure his public remarks as compared to other members of the team? What should that accountability look like? Trump said he was going to fire Fauci after the election right? Can he do that? Would that be appropriate accountability, in your opinion, for his perceived transgressions?

Why would Fauci be held accountable for the mismanagement of the pandemic response when that wasn't his role? 

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toomuchbaloney

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On 11/21/2020 at 6:06 PM, ICU/EMTP said:

The disease exists. The response was complete blown out of proportion to suit a political goal. And continues to be. And they depend on their useful idiots to obey and comply. Laughable. The only places that had issues were those that created then and then fanned the flames. 

Which response was blown out of proportion? Which political goal was pursued by which action?

During a global pandemic that is generally best managed by widespread use of masks and social distancing, which folks look like useful idiots? The people calling this fauxvid or not masking, or the people practicing the mitigation strategies and listening to the public health professionals? Laughable indeed. 

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Please quote where I said he shouldn't be.  My question remains...why him specifically and what are the standards used to measure his public remarks as compared to other members of the team? What should that accountability look like? Trump said he was going to fire Fauci after the election right? Can he do that? Would that be appropriate accountability, in your opinion, for his perceived transgressions?

Why would Fauci be held accountable for the mismanagement of the pandemic response when that wasn't his role? 

If Dr. Fauci is questioned by a commission of inquiry and leads to lessons being learned on how to mitigate such a pandemic in the future then that is part of being held accountable. Similar to how Mark Zuckerberg has to go before house committees to answer I.e be held accountable when there are discrepancies, dereliction of duty, or security of public being jeopardized. I do not understand what you are struggling to understand. 

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15 minutes ago, cynical-RN said:

If Dr. Fauci is questioned by a commission of inquiry and leads to lessons being learned on how to mitigate such a pandemic in the future then that is part of being held accountable. Similar to how Mark Zuckerberg has to go before house committees to answer I.e be held accountable when there are discrepancies, dereliction of duty, or security of public being jeopardized. I do not understand what you are struggling to understand. 

So not an inquiry into holding him specifically accountable for mismanagement, as you previously suggested but a general inquiry? Do you think that Dr Fauci has a role in the task force that is comparable to Zuckerberg's role in FB? 

Why, is Fauci's name the one that comes to your mind when you consider that there may have been discrepancies, dereliction of duty or jeopardizing public security in the federal pandemic response? 

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15 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So not an inquiry into holding him specifically accountable for mismanagement, as you previously suggested but a general inquiry? Do you think that Dr Fauci has a role in the task force that is comparable to Zuckerberg's role in FB? 

Why, is Fauci's name the one that comes to your mind when you consider that there may have been discrepancies, dereliction of duty or jeopardizing public security in the federal pandemic response? 

There is a plethora of logical fallacies in your rhetorical retorts masqueraded as questions. Lets address a few.

1. Red herring: 

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Do you think that Dr Fauci has a role in the task force that is comparable to Zuckerberg's role in FB?

I brought that as an example to help elaborate that questioning someone in such a position might yield some results, some of which could come from the wisdom of their expertise. How is the comparison you inferred relative to position relevant? They hold dissimilar and disparate positions. 

2. Non-sequitur 

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So not an inquiry into holding him specifically accountable for mismanagement, as you previously suggested but a general inquiry?

If he is questioned, and the inquiry deems that he was indeed incompetent and/or negligent, then as previously stated, he must face the appropriate music. 

3. Strawman

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Why, is Fauci's name the one that comes to your mind when you consider that there may have been discrepancies, dereliction of duty or jeopardizing public security in the federal pandemic response? 

Because this thread is about Dr. Fauci. If you are interested in a discussion of holding other people accountable relative to mismanagement, dereliction of duty, incompetence, ineptitude etc. start a thread and we can engage, but do not distract the topic at hand with inferences of other persons who are not the subject of discussion herein. 

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On 11/17/2020 at 4:52 PM, Cynical-RN said:

I wonder why he downplayed the role of masks around January and February. Compared to the administration he’s done better, but that’s a low barometer

JUN 12, 2020 Why Weren’t We Wearing Masks From the Beginning? Dr. Fauci Explains

…   Why weren't we told to wear masks in the beginning?

"Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned. The public health community, and many people were saying they were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply. And we wanted to make sure that the people namely, the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in harms way, to take care of people who were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected."…

…   "Masks are not 100% protective. However, they certainly are better than not wearing a mask. Both to prevent you, if you happen to be a person who may feel well, but has an asymptomatic infection that you don't even know about, to prevent you from infecting someone else," said Fauci. "But also, it can protect you a certain degree, not a hundred percent, in protecting you from getting infected from someone who, either is breathing, or coughing, or sneezing, or singing or whatever it is in which the droplets or the aerosols go out. So masks work."…

https://www.thestreet.com/video/Dr-fauci-masks-changing-directive-coronavirus 

herring_RN, ASN, BSN

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The first disease Dr. Fauci discovered a cure for was vasculitis—an inflammation of the blood cells that often occurs when the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks its own blood vessels. vasculitis patients suffered from rare inflammatory diseases, such as granulomatosis with polyangiitis, which damages blood vessels in the lungs, kidneys, and other organs. The disease was almost always fatal until he discovered how to treat it.

Dr.Fauci [and his team] followed by discovering treatments for lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and transplant rejection. My sister-in-law, now in her 90s, developed Lupus in her teens. Thanks' to Dr. Fauci's discoveries she is an active lady volunteering at a food bank and at her church helping younger people deal with the "Virtual Church Service" technology. Her mother died of lupus at age 54.

I recently heard Magic Johnson say on TV, "I would have been dead long ago if not for Dr. Fauci."

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md-bio