A Few Words from Dr. Anthony Fauci

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by jeastridge jeastridge, BSN, RN (Trusted Brand)

Specializes in Faith Community Nurse (FCN).

This article is based on excerpts from an interview with Dr. Fauci on November 16, 2020, for the annual meeting of the American Medical Informatics Association. You are reading page 2 of A Few Words from Dr. Anthony Fauci. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

toomuchbaloney

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11 minutes ago, ICU/EMTP said:

He was appointed head of niaid in 1984. That was during Reagan’s tenure. His role as “advisor” to the President is a political appointment, unless there is a better word. His actions and incompetence throughout this scamdemic have shown he possesses an agenda or is under control from elsewhere. Others in his organization have even spoken out about him and have been forced out as a result. If you feel the response to this raging head cold has been appropriate and not excessive, there is no need for further discussion. Some believe what they are told, others believe what they see and experience first-hand. 

So are you saying that Reagan appointed Fauci to his current position? You are implying that Fauci is a politically appointed position that presidents since Reagan (including Trump) intentionally maintained? Does that mean that Trump can fire Fauci the same way he fired other appointees when they were loyal to his narrative?

You didn't specify what you believe that Fauci's agenda is.  Your claim that he has a personal agenda in his position is unfounded...unless you care to offer up some specific examples of that agenda and how that specific agenda should be of concern to the average American. 

Yes, I am convinced that you have believed what you have been told about Dr Fauci rather than what true and real.  The best way to dispel that image is to provide facts and evidence to support your beliefs and feelings.  I'm not really a fan of Trumpian evidence like "many people say" or "others in his organization". 

There's either evidence that this career public health professional (Fauci) has some other agenda or there isn't...since you didn't offer any facts or evidence I'm reasonably confident that there isn't any evidence of any other agenda.  The question now becomes why.  Why would a health professional believe and then spread such a thing without evidence?  What other baseless things does that health professional believe? 

toomuchbaloney

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23 minutes ago, cynical-RN said:

Read the initial post I wrote! 

I  read it.

What's your contention? What are you asserting with your comment about Fauci's early statements on masks? I am asking you to be clear, concise, specific in your complaint or concern. 

Surely you are aware that criticism of Fauci is politically motivated. 

 

On 11/21/2020 at 10:51 AM, toomuchbaloney said:

So are you saying that Reagan appointed Fauci to his current position? You are implying that Fauci is a politically appointed position that presidents since Reagan (including Trump) intentionally maintained? Does that mean that Trump can fire Fauci the same way he fired other appointees when they were loyal to his narrative?

You didn't specify what you believe that Fauci's agenda is.  Your claim that he has a personal agenda in his position is unfounded...unless you care to offer up some specific examples of that agenda and how that specific agenda should be of concern to the average American. 

Yes, I am convinced that you have believed what you have been told about Dr Fauci rather than what true and real.  The best way to dispel that image is to provide facts and evidence to support your beliefs and feelings.  I'm not really a fan of Trumpian evidence like "many people say" or "others in his organization". 

There's either evidence that this career public health professional (Fauci) has some other agenda or there isn't...since you didn't offer any facts or evidence I'm reasonably confident that there isn't any evidence of any other agenda.  The question now becomes why.  Why would a health professional believe and then spread such a thing without evidence?  What other baseless things does that health professional believe? 

No. I am saying he was appointed to the position in 1984. I do not know under who’s authority, or at who’s whom he serves. His role as “advisor” could be terminated at any time by the President. I stated he EITHER has a personal agenda (political), or is controlled from elsewhere (politically).

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47 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I  read it.

What's your contention? What are you asserting with your comment about Fauci's early statements on masks? I am asking you to be clear, concise, specific in your complaint or concern. 

Surely you are aware that criticism of Fauci is politically motivated. 

 

He was on TV downplaying the gravity of the virus during the first few months of the year. That’s my contention which is not based on what anyone else said or interpreted, but his own words. In retrospect, if we do a root cause analysis relative to mishandling the complexities of controlling the pervasiveness of the virus, Fauci has to be held accountable. Nonetheless that does not absolve the ineptitude of the current administration. 

toomuchbaloney

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12 minutes ago, cynical-RN said:

He was on TV downplaying the gravity of the virus during the first few months of the year. That’s my contention which is not based on what anyone else said or interpreted, but his own words. In retrospect, if we do a root cause analysis relative to mishandling the complexities of controlling the pervasiveness of the virus, Fauci has to be held accountable. Nonetheless that does not absolve the ineptitude of the current administration. 

So was it a personal agenda that precipitated that guidance or was it someone else's agenda exacted through Fauci? And what do you believe that agenda was or is? You aren't being very specific about this agenda you've claimed exists outside of Fauci's role at NIAID or as a presidential advisor.  What is the agenda and if it's not Fauci's, whose agenda is it?

Perhaps you forgot that the USA suffered from an early experience with PPE scarcity in the first months of the pandemic. All health professionals were recommending masking behaviors intended to preserve stores of medical grade masks for health workers. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7531934/

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macawake, MSN

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The Covid-19 pandemic is worldwide.

You’re free to agree or disagree with the various measures that different countries have implemented in an effort to combat this virus, but when you try to pretend that it isn’t a genuine threat, you lose all credibility.

While many people have only light or no symptoms from an infection, for a large number of people it’s a damn sight worse than a ”head cold”.

If you had worked in an ICU recently you would know this. If you’re kept abreast with the evolving Covid-19 research you would know this. Actually, anyone who lives in the real world knows this.

This virus doesn’t discriminate. It kills people on both sides of the political divide. It kills apolitical people as well. I don’t understand this desire you seem to have to turn this into a political fight. Turning this into a political squabble makes it harder to meet this challenge with a unified front. It’s destructive.

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So was it a personal agenda that precipitated that guidance or was it someone else's agenda exacted through Fauci? And what do you believe that agenda was or is? You aren't being very specific about this agenda you've claimed exists outside of Fauci's role at NIAID or as a presidential advisor.  What is the agenda and if it's not Fauci's, whose agenda is it?

Perhaps you forgot that the USA suffered from an early experience with PPE scarcity in the first months of the pandemic. All health professionals were recommending masking behaviors intended to preserve stores of medical grade masks for health workers. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7531934/

I never said he had an agenda! You must have me confused with another poster. If not, don’t misconstrue the premise of my contention, then proceed to counter your imagined delusion with rhetorical diatribe like he’s infallible. If the issue was scarcity of resources he should’ve said that explicitly rather than underestimating the pervasive nature of the virus. 

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On 11/17/2020 at 9:19 PM, Kitiger said:

The only answer that makes sense is that he was trying to prevent the public from hoarding the masks that health care workers needed. I believe he messed up that one. But - ever since - he has stuck to the science and calmly explained it in ways that the general public could understand.

If they would just listen and do it!

Thank you. 

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On 11/21/2020 at 2:29 PM, cynical-RN said:

Nonetheless, I think there should be a COVID19 tribunal that will conduct root cause analyses of the self-admitted mismanagement relative to the complexities of COVID19.

A society is only as strong as its willingness to acknowledge past mistakes. Otherwise, there will be an increased propensity to repeat similar mistakes I.e downplaying the seriousness of a pandemic.

If you are asking me to be judge, jury and executioner, then I am dissuading you from that delusion, and I kindly ask that you redirect your energy elsewhere. 

 

toomuchbaloney

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On 11/21/2020 at 2:29 PM, cynical-RN said:

Nonetheless, I think there should be a COVID19 tribunal that will conduct root cause analyses of the self-admitted mismanagement relative to the complexities of COVID19.

A society is only as strong as its willingness to acknowledge past mistakes. Otherwise, there will be an increased propensity to repeat similar mistakes I.e downplaying the seriousness of a pandemic.

If you are asking me to be judge, jury and executioner, then I am dissuading you from that delusion, and I kindly ask that you redirect your energy elsewhere. 

Mismanagement? Dr Fauci's humility about his public statements is not an admission of mismanagement.  His job wasn't management of the pandemic.  He is a member of the task force.  Dr Birx was/is the response coordinator.  She maybe could be investigated for mismanagement? 

The political leadership set the tone for the scientific members of the task force. All communications were filtered through a political office or operative.  Politicians were downplaying the virus from the beginning.

I'm clearly not asking you to be a judge or a jury.  I'm simply asking you to be specific about what you mean by accountability and what standard or rule he is being held to...in your opinion. 

 Why are we even talking about Fauci when Dr Scott Atlas is actively undermining pandemic mitigation strategies and making inflammatory statements? 

 

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On 11/21/2020 at 3:55 PM, toomuchbaloney said:

Mismanagement? Dr Fauci's humility about his public statements is not an admission of mismanagement.  His job wasn't management of the pandemic.  He is a member of the task force.  Dr Birx was/is the response coordinator.  She maybe could be investigated for mismanagement? 

The political leadership set the tone for the scientific members of the task force. All communications were filtered through a political office or operative.  Politicians were downplaying the virus from the beginning.

I'm clearly not asking you to be a judge or a jury.  I'm simply asking you to be specific about what you mean by accountability and what standard or rule he is being held to...in your opinion. 

 Why are we even talking about Fauci when Dr Scott Atlas is actively undermining pandemic mitigation strategies and making inflammatory statements? 

You think Dr. Fauci is beyond questioning if a serious inquiry was set up? What's with this unthinking hero worshiping? Nobody is beyond questioning. Accountability starts by answering what went wrong and what could have been done to improve the situation.