So, i am guessing we've all registered for our classes for next semester...i wanted to start a thread where everyone taking the course can come together to ask questions they need help with or just vent or LOL....watever the case may be...so if you are taking A&P 1 in the spring...introduce your self...
a. How many credits you are taking next semester
b. What part of A&P 1 you are looking forward to, are you nervous?
c. How long you have to apply?
d. Some random thing about you?
Lets gooooooo................
Check this thread for some amazing notes by a member.... Polka-dot.(You Rock!!)...for notes on A&P....and welcome to anatomy heaven...:)
Even if I don't use the answers, I am still getting cheated out of a real education. 60% of the study guide questions are not found in the book nor are they concepts we learn in class. I am having to google these answers, and sometimes I'm not even sure I get the right answer. I wish our prof would actually teach the material that's going to be on the test, or make up his own tests and not use these 'study guides'.
I want to actually learn something in this class from the lectures. I am just having issues with the way the professor teaches and how he runs the class...just venting a little is all. Didn't mean to go off-topic.
Could you give us some examples of questions not found in your book and not covered in class? You have me intrigued.
Also, what book are you using? Marieb 8th? Martini 8th?
I'm sorry to read that you are not getting the grade you are hoping for. I do think though that a 100% or even a 98% should be nearly unobtainable. My belief is that an A shows that you thoroughly understand the subject, but there should be a higher standard to a 100%. A 100% means that you have mastered it. When I took my entrance exam for nursing school, I scored 100% on the math. It was math that I had mastered and even though I hadn't taken math in decades, it was something that is with me every day. If you put an anatomy exam in front of me in 6 months, it is unlikely that I'd get 100% on it, possibly not even an A. Why? Because while I understand it and did very well in my course, I have not mastered it to that level and it isn't a part of me the way that high school math is. I know that even though I deserved the A that I received in anatomy and in physiology, I still have more to learn and those application problems or tricky problems on the exam remind me of that.
Could you give us some examples of questions not found in your book and not covered in class? You have me intrigued.
Also, what book are you using? Marieb 8th? Martini 8th?
Sure. Just off the top of my head - "What is used to determine the total percentage of the body burned? a)cause of burn b)areas of burn c)rule of 9's d)type of burn e)ABCDE rule" Of course it's the Rule of 9's, but it wasn't in our book nor discussed in class. I had to google it. Or "Xeroderma pigmentosa is an autosomal recessive trait that is caused by a defect in which gene? a)8 b)9 c)10 d)11 e)12?" Again, I googled that one, and some websites say 9 and some say 11 so I don't know.
Those are just examples of simpler concept questions that aren't in our book, and aren't discussed in lecture. There are also a lot more difficult questions that ask us to apply some of these concepts that we haven't learned. I don't think that's fair when there are a lot of questions like that. His response is that "Smart Students will find the answer." We use the McGraw Hill Saladin 5th edition.
Sure. Just off the top of my head - "What is used to determine the total percentage of the body burned? a)cause of burn b)areas of burn c)rule of 9's d)type of burn e)ABCDE rule" Of course it's the Rule of 9's, but it wasn't in our book nor discussed in class. I had to google it. Or "Xeroderma pigmentosa is an autosomal recessive trait that is caused by a defect in which gene? a)8 b)9 c)10 d)11 e)12?" Again, I googled that one, and some websites say 9 and some say 11 so I don't know.
Those are just examples of simpler concept questions that aren't in our book, and aren't discussed in lecture. There are also a lot more difficult questions that ask us to apply some of these concepts that we haven't learned. I don't think that's fair when there are a lot of questions like that. His response is that "Smart Students will find the answer." We use the McGraw Hill Saladin 5th edition.
Interesting. We covered the rule of nines in class and there was also a diagram in our books. I'm surprised your book is lacking this.
I haven't a clue about the xeroderma pigmentosa question. The best I could probably do would be to have a idea of what it is. Xero- means dry, and -derma is skin, therefore the condition has to do with dry skin.
If you ask the professor what the answers are, or I think you said he already gives you the answers, I don't think this is too bad. You know what's going to be on the test, so if you can answer every one of those 600 questions then you're guaranteed a 100%!
As far as not waning to learn concepts on your own time, I don't think it's as bad as you may think it is. A big portion of university level coursework is basically an independent study. It's impossible to cover every concept in lecture, there just isn't enough time. Therefore professors will pick concepts from the books they think are most worthy to talk about, and then you're responsible for the rest. There are a couple of factors that differentiate taking a course at a university and just buying the book. The largest difference is you have a resource to help understand the material. The professor is there for you to ask questions, and you probably have 10-500 other peers who are also trying to learn the same stuff.
When you pre-read the chapters you can formulate a list of questions on concepts you do not fully understand. When you go to lecture you'll probably be able to cross off a decent portion of them. After lecture, or after an appropriate section, you now have a list of questions to ask.
I doubt you're getting "cheated out of an education," in fact I could probably argue that you're getting a better education than a lot of us here. Xeroderma pigmentosa will not be covered, nor will it be tested on in my class. When you encounter this term in the future you will have a leg up!
Yes, he did give us the answers for the upcoming test which is helpful. What I don't find helpful is when I do try to go to him for help, he usually ends up asking me 'What does the book say' and I tell him what I understand and he says 'Then that is the answer'. Or if it's not in the book, he says 'Did you research it' and if I say I did but dont understand, his response is 'You did not try hard enough'. I think it may be a culture issue and him not caring - he is just teaching this class until his doctor license from Nigeria can be approved for practice in the US.
I don't mind teaching myself and researching up to a certain point. I understand what university courses are like, as this is my second go-around. There's a certain amount of self-study involved as class time is limited. I don't know. I guess I'm just frustrated and I shouldn't be complaining because this time we do have the answers. I'll just suck it up and do what I gotta do to get through this class.
Yes, he did give us the answers for the upcoming test which is helpful. What I don't find helpful is when I do try to go to him for help, he usually ends up asking me 'What does the book say' and I tell him what I understand and he says 'Then that is the answer'. Or if it's not in the book, he says 'Did you research it' and if I say I did but dont understand, his response is 'You did not try hard enough'. I think it may be a culture issue and him not caring - he is just teaching this class until his doctor license from Nigeria can be approved for practice in the US.
That would irritate me as well.
For future classes (possibly A&PII), if you can choose your professor I think that would be best.
I try to avoid people with thick accents, stutters, and bad attitudes (unless they're geniuses).
What are you having trouble with the brain? There are tons of great mneumonics for the brain.
I used two mneumonics for the cranial nerves.
Our oval office teeters tomorrow as florida counts al versus george's hangingchads. - I was a polisci person before nursing, so that works for me. There are some great x rated ones to help memorize nerves.
Some say marry money but my brother says big boobs matter more. -- whether cranial nerves are sensory, motor or both.
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Could you give us some examples of questions not found in your book and not covered in class? You have me intrigued.
Also, what book are you using? Marieb 8th? Martini 8th?