Sorry, Milwaukee nurses and patients

Anne36, LPN · Jan 23, 2011

Whoa~ look out, because he looks like bad news. I am so sorry, but when someone makes that much money there is something wrong. He must earn his pay by saving the hospitals a ton of money. Wonder where the savings come from, lol. Your paycheck probably. This stinks to high heaven.

netglow, ASN, RN · Jan 23, 2011

"Mark Taylor's new position as president and CEO of Columbia St. Mary's Health System is a step up within Ascension Health, the same company that oversees Genesys. His new responsibilities include managing three hospitals, 65 community clinics and a college nursing program. " - excerpt from above article link

I don't work in WI, but have read that previously St. M was a better paying WI hospital. Well, looks like they needed to fix that didn't they. WI is one of the more depressed areas for nursing income already.

Ya know, I found out that a neighbor of mine, who moved in a year ago or so in a brand new HUGE McMansion he built in my neighborhood of "normal" homes, is one of those guys whose profession is the kind that lays out the masterplan to make hospitals more profitable by any and every means. He is the guy who suggests importing NG nursing staff from overseas (won't get any guff from them), and getting rid of experienced US nurses as well as all the above mentioned by the OP. Needless to say, I don't speak to him (the A-****) I even go out and cut the grass and ignore him as he lays on his deck in the summer with a drink and shouts for all to hear on his cell phone, while his "lawn people" cut his grass :devil: (I can find out about anybody )

nurse0520 · Jan 23, 2011

It is really sad that they make almost a million bucks a year. no wonder the health insurance is going up. we are paying the heads of the insurance and the heads of the hospital not the people working in these areas. wait just wait in ten years this country will be even more in the hole. They only care about the ol might dollar not the people and the new govenor in Mad town will allow this. :confused: :crying2: :twocents:

tntrn, ASN, RN · Jan 23, 2011

Expect to model your organization like the airlines... because they have the best safety record. (Forget the fact that the services they provide are terrible.)

This is only the second time I have heard the comparison to the airlines. The first was from a bunch of "suits" who came to our hospital and starting talking up the "high reliability unit" concept, and also spouted about the airlines and the checklists and doing everything the same every time.

Well, having been married to a commercial airline pilot for 25 years, this was very interesting to me, because I know how much money the airlines spend for simulators, simulator time, time away from and instead of actual shifts for required simulator training twice a year, and I can tell you right now, that no hospital is going to spend that kind of money or let their employees be actually off their unit in order to get and recertify this training.

The comparison is not even apples to oranges. It's rotten apples to Mercedes Benz. The "services" provided by either, IMHO, aren't a valid part of this comparison.

Leelee2 · Jan 24, 2011

""Taylor currently earns $735,273 a year with benefits and other compensation included, according to Genesys’ 2008 tax exemption form. Other tax records state that his predecessor in Milwaukee made about $350,000 more year, earning almost 1.1 million including benefits and other compensation""

Ridiculous. no wonder healthcare costs are so high to pay these crazy salaries. How do these type of people sleep at night. I currently live in Wisconsin, and wouldn't work at this place if it were the Last place hiring.....

luv2b_a_nurs · Jan 24, 2011

Do you have any proof to back this up? As a new grad, I am interested in finding the best place to work where I can stay for a long time.

lindarn · Jan 24, 2011

You have been forewarned. If you are not unionized, NOW is the time to call NNU. Don't hesitate- be ready! Start NOW to watch each others' backs, help each other out.

Have documentation about how aides, unit secretaries help patients outcomes, by helping the nursing staff. If they start to cut support staff, be ready to go to the public- have rallies in a VERY public area, invite the press, news stations, advertise at schools, churches, have balloons ready for kids, offer free blood pressure checks, etc. Make yourself user friendly to the public!

Have documentation how patient care has suffered, emphasize the high salaries, that they contribute NOTHING to patient care, and patient outcomes. SHAME THEM IN THE PUBLIC EYE!!

And get a union vote as soon as you can. The only way to fight fire is with fire!

JMHO and my NY $0.02.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Somewhere in the PACNW

evolvingrn, BSN, RN · Jan 25, 2011

Yikes I have a friend that works there, sounds like bad new especially if they are not unionized

cheddaz · Feb 3, 2011

We do not have a union. Now let's see how it could get worse???!!!! Really not a trilling place to work as is. Don't get me wrong, I love the people I work with and I like helping our impoverished pts. Sometimes, little things for them make a big deal, like using a phone to make a local call.

If you have supplies you need to take care of patients.... say goodbye. Don't have much already, what will he take the lab tubes? No food or toiletries as is.

If for you thought you worked short before.... get ready for it to get much worse. Hmmmmm ratio days 6:1 night 7-9:1 on Neuro can that get worse???

Get ready for major layoffs, tell your health insurance goodbye, need that prescription.... good luck!, got a pension plan.... so sorry, but it will be gone shortly. No pension plan, gone in 2008 we do have 403b minimal match. He could get ride of the plan for those hired before 2006. What insurance, I take mine online through BCBS, much cheaper. Scripts are hardly covered now. Only staff left to lay of is the "HUC"....person to put in orders. I already assumed they would be fired when we switch to CPOE.

Get ready for one of the most ridiculous code of conducts... which basicially allows for patient/family abuse of nursing staff like you have never seen or heard of before. They already do treat us like crap, inner city MKE says it all. We have "real" security and a code purple is pretty common.

Prepare for the outsourcing of jobs to other entities under the major umbrella of the organization this guy comes from (Goodbye LPNs, CNAs, medical record people, Bio-medical techs). Oh, and don't expect forwarning... you will arrive at your job and work for a few hours and security and police will show up to take your badges and keys and see you off the property with a warning that if you come back on the property you will be arrested. Already gone- LPN, CNA's we have minimal staff left. I draw my own labs off IV's.

If you have flexibility in your schedules, like 12 hours, weekends only, etc... say goodbye. Welcome to 8 hour shifts and every other weekend and you can never get a "set" schedule to plan anything. This we do have 12's, already have to work EOW.

Expect to get written up for those little things like coding a patient (you didn't get pre-approved overtime for that code... shame on you). Can't do OT now either or will be written up.

Expect to model your organization like the airlines... because they have the best safety record. (Forget the fact that the services they provide are terrible.) Our service sucks, sorry to say. When most of the pts are homeless, on poverty level what extra frills can we provide? We are kind and fun, but there are no extras.

Expect your morale to plunge to a level you didn't know existed, and then some more. Expect to be told on a daily basis how horrible and terrible nurses and your nursing care is. We shall see, itsn't too great now. Pts tell us daily how horrible we are. Better bring your own toiletries and food, we have no extras.

Expect to shut up, smile, and take it! Keep this in mind... like all CEOs he will be a short timer... he will wreck havoc, and go home with a smile. I do, daily:)

cheddaz · Feb 3, 2011

Do you have any proof to back this up? As a new grad, I am interested in finding the best place to work where I can stay for a long time.

Try Froedtert or VA

cheddaz · Feb 3, 2011

"Mark Taylor's new position as president and CEO of Columbia St. Mary's Health System is a step up within Ascension Health, the same company that oversees Genesys. His new responsibilities include managing three hospitals, 65 community clinics and a college nursing program. " - excerpt from above article link
I don't work in WI, but have read that previously St. M was a better paying WI hospital. Well, looks like they needed to fix that didn't they. WI is one of the more depressed areas for nursing income already.
Ya know, I found out that a neighbor of mine, who moved in a year ago or so in a brand new HUGE McMansion he built in my neighborhood of "normal" homes, is one of those guys whose profession is the kind that lays out the masterplan to make hospitals more profitable by any and every means. He is the guy who suggests importing NG nursing staff from overseas (won't get any guff from them), and getting rid of experienced US nurses as well as all the above mentioned by the OP. Needless to say, I don't speak to him (the A-****) I even go out and cut the grass and ignore him as he lays on his deck in the summer with a drink and shouts for all to hear on his cell phone, while his "lawn people" cut his grass (I can find out about anybody )

Pay Rates in MKE compared with friends of equal status (High to Low)

VA

Aurora

ProHealth

CSM

Froedtert

Not sure how the 2 remaining are...Wheaton and Covenant