Texas: Methodist Hospital Moves To Hire Only RNS' with BS degree

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New nurses at Methodist will need bachelor's degrees

By CINDY GEORGE

The Methodist Hospital has joined the movement toward requiring their registered nurses to have bachelor's degrees.

Since December, the Texas Medical Center institution has required all newly hired experienced nurses to have a four-year degree. This helps the hospital create a nursing work force equipped to treat patients with more complicated conditions such as transplants while handling expanding technology and an ever-increasing knowledge base, said Ann Scanlon McGinity, Methodist's chief nursing executive and senior vice president for operations.

"At the patient's bedside, the risk is high with very sick patients. The margin for error is very small. You have to have people who think and put together information very critically and very quickly. I don't think people with a two-year degree can do all that," said McGinity, who has a master's degree in nursing and a doctorate in developmental psychology. "The whole notion is creating an environment where education and lifelong learning is a requirement as opposed to getting a license or a degree and that's the end of it."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7017108.html

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Fine. Require a BSN. But first show substantial wage increase to validate this. Give a BSN $5.00/hr more to start. Good luck with that.

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Specializes in Labor/Delivery, Pediatrics, Peds ER.

"You have to have people who think and put together information very critically and very quickly. I don't think people with a two-year degree can do all that..." One just needs to add an N to that, um, "stuff," and you've got your BSN. :lol2:

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i think they're going to find theirselves with a nursing shortage and soon realize that there's no difference in the quality of care whether it be an lpn, rn or bsn.

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Specializes in ER, L&D, ICU, LTC, HH.

"You have to have people who think and put together information very critically and very quickly. I don't think people with a two-year degree can do all that..." One just needs to add an N to that, um, "stuff," and you've got your BSN

This is bull I ran a Level I Trauma Center on 3-11 with an ADN degree and was very good at it, BS does not mean you know any more than AD degrees. They will learn really fast. I would hate to know how many BSN RN's I have had to teach basic procedures because they never did them in school. This is corporate people who would faint trying to do what real nurses do. I apologize in advance for this. Yes I took the bait and it is an old issue that still makes me angry.

~Willow

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Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

This argument (ADN versus BSN) is as old as the hills.

Its gotten us (nurses) no where when we fight among ourselves.

Lets stop it.

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Thread moved to Diploma/ADN/BSN forum.

Let's try and keep this civil as traumaRUs pointed out.

Thanks.

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Specializes in ER, L&D, ICU, LTC, HH.

Seems to me it is worth discussing when it is starting to effect whether a RN gets a job or not. Just my 2 cents.

~Willow

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Specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.

Discussing is fine. Disrespectful comments and/or inflammatory posts just to "stir the pot", are not.

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I wonder what happens to people with a different bachelors degree and an ADN...? I'll have a BS in psychology this December so I have no desire to do another bachelors. I've had enough general education and don't see why a 2 year degree wouldn't be sufficient for someone in my position. I guess they would expect us to do the more expensive 2 year accelerated BSN programs... The 2nd degree BSN in my area isn't liked by many students b/c it's full of "useless fluff" that doesn't help them with the NCLEX. The ADN programs have similar pass rates.

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Market forces:

Consumer demand for "best"

Research studies that show more BSN = less patient deaths and complications

Professional organizations requirenments/recommendations: Docotrate for pharmacy + physical therapy

Quality organizations including Magnet program

Proliferation of bachelors programs

are what is propelling need for BSN RN degree. Today, health care employeers, especially hospitals, need a highly educated workforce to deal with the average hospitalized patient that would have been in ICU 5-10yrs ago.

Due to trends for hospitals choosing BSN grads, in order to maximize being hired post graduation, it makes most sense to enter BSN or second degree program especially in an urban setting whenever feasible.

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Specializes in Labor/Delivery, Pediatrics, Peds ER.
Discussing is fine. Disrespectful comments and/or inflammatory posts just to "stir the pot", are not.

Sorry - my post was not meant to be a snark at BSN's - it was just my way of saying that it is ridiculous to state that 2-year grads cannot think critically and quickly. To me *that's* an inexcusable and inflammatory statement.

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