university of phoenix RN and clinicals??? - page 3

by alyCNA

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Hey i am thinking about taking the rn program at university of phoenix right now i am only a cna i talked to the school today and they said i can take the hole rn program there and in about 4 years i can get my bachelors rn and i... Read More


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    UofP is a for profit school. The advisers are paid commission for recruiting new students and their classes cost a small fortune!
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    I watched a very interesting documentary on PBS about the for-profit colleges, that I think might interest you and others:
    FRONTLINE: college, inc.: watch the full program online | PBS

    In it, they talk quite a bit about the University of Phoenix and their predatory recruitment practices.
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    To the OP:

    1. Investigate your local hospitals and see if you can find one that offers an "earn as you learn program". These programs are offered to people who are usually CNAs or PCTs and may already be employed at the hospital. In an EAYL program you won't have to pay for school, the hospital will pay and you will sign a contract to work for them for "x" number of years as repayment.

    2. Research your local public colleges that offer nursing programs. Find out what the pre-reqs are, how much the classes cost and what classes can be done online.

    3. If you do your ADN (2 yr RN) at a public college, the college will set up your clinicals. After you get your RN you can often do an online BSN with the same college or other public university that accepts your credits from the public college.

    4. Don't spend more money than absolutely necessary on nursing school.
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    Quote from Jen_the_RN2009
    I watched a very interesting documentary on PBS about the for-profit colleges, that I think might interest you and others:
    FRONTLINE: college, inc.: watch the full program online | PBS

    In it, they talk quite a bit about the University of Phoenix and their predatory recruitment practices.

    THANK YOU FOR THIS LINK! This is a true eye-opener!! This is a MUST-see documentary. It mentions U of P and the $67million law suit filed by the US government for fraudalent recruitment practices and their "take anybody" regardless of eligibility to make quotas and commissions for the recruiters. It also mention those left with huge student loans they are unable to pay!!! Please take a look!---Thank you Jen the RN!
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    Administrators: Why has this discussion been moved from General Nursing Discussions to General Nursing Student Discussions?
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    JerseyLilly--You're very welcome, and I love your Leo Buscaglia quote. I have a couple of his books.
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    Quote from JerseyLilly
    Administrators: Why has this discussion been moved from General Nursing Discussions to General Nursing Student Discussions?
    This thread was moved because it is student-oriented. In addition, it poses general questions about a specific nursing school. The General Nursing Discussion forum has been slammed with student queries lately, so we have been attempting to move some of these threads into more specific forums.
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    I've looked through the University of Phoenix website and it doesn't look like they have an RN program. The recruiter may have thought you were already a nurse with an associate's degree and thought you qualified for the RN-BSN program.

    I agree with the other posters that checking out your local community college is a good first step. You'll need to take some prereqs but the good news is that most colleges offer a large number of classes online. Community colleges also have night classes, weekend classes, early morning classes, or classes that only meet once a week--they're really friendly for working students. Nursing school is less working student friendly but it still can be done, especially if you have a job that will let you work evenings/weekends/nights.

    Getting into nursing school can be overwhelming, especially when you start worrying about working while in school or the time committment or anything like that. Start small and talk to an advisor at the local community college about the nursing program and take a class or two in the fall. This is the PERFECT time to be getting ready for the fall. Even if you want to go for a BSN later, you'll still need English/Anatomy/Microbiology/Psychology/etc.
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    FYI: University of Phoenix is fully accredited according to the AZ Board of Nursing. I don't know what state you are in, but it is legit according to BON. I would just check about that clincal site...that sounds weird. You might want to clarify with someone else. They do have an LPN to BSN program, but not just an RN program. You have be a nurse (LPN or ADN) first.
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    Quote from cb_rn
    Stanford is whack...what's up with #2??

    Are they saying online education isn't up to snuff? If its a question of quality...Duke has online MSN. John Hopkins has online MSN. UNC Chapel Hill has online RN-BSN. There are plenty of lesser known institutions offering degrees every bit as academically challenging as these well known universities. Obviously we see Stanford isn't into riding the educational wave of the future.

    What a bunch of snots! (I agree this poster wasn't trying to be offensive to online programs -- I think/hope maybe the "real" was just a poorly chosen word for brick and mortar institutions or "live" programs.)

    OP I hear WGU is doing totally online original RN programs in a couple of states (CA and TX? maybe?) but, again, I dunno that nursing is something you want to do totally online. There are programs that are live that you can continue to work while completing. Many CCs do evening RN programs. Check into it. There isn't really a good way around having to squeeze in classes with your clinicals. The concepts and amt of material in a program is vast and some of it is difficult to comprehend without an instructor face to face to clarify. In contrast, a BSN online is not as difficult to accomplish because you have a foundation of knowledge to build upon. The course work is still challenging online but you aren't learning from scratch, so to speak.
    Unfortunately, there is a difference between a degree from Duke or Johns Hopkins and one from an exclusively online school. One of them being, there is nothing on the Duke degree that says, "MBA Online".. it's an MBA from Duke. How it was achieved is irrelevant. I personally believe if someone is going to do a degree online, they should find a respected brick and mortar school to do it at.

    Not all degrees are created equal- a degree from UoP or Devry generally are going to get less attention from employers than a degree from a state university would.

    Having said all that- I am not dogging online education. I truly believe people should think hard before choosing an online school. If you read the Rip Off Report under colleges and universities.. UoP comes up again and again. As does just about ever other 'online' university.


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