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  1. Donald11

    Anyone attending Mildred Elley in N.Y.C?

    Medical assisting is not high in demand Faith and you know it. The market is saturated with MAs. Contrary to popular beleif, not all healthcare fields are in demand. Many of them are saturated.
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    Anyone attending Mildred Elley in N.Y.C?

    I went to the info session at MIldred Elley last year and did not like it. The admissions rep also tried to sell propsective nursing students into going for th medical assistant certificate. Take in mind that in order to take the NCLEX, the school requires you to pass an exit exam. In 2009, out of about 30 students, only 4 ever took the NCLEX: http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/nurse/nclexpn2008-12.htm If the admissions rep bragged to you about how they have a "100% NCLEX pass rate," now you know why. They only let the smartest students take it. Everyone else is out of luck. They will graduate with thousands in non dischargeable debt and no job prospects.
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    Help Me Find an LPN or RN program Please!

    I did not go to any school. I decided not to pursue nursing. I was originally going to pursue radiology (x ray tech) but the field is totally saturated. So I decided to forget about healthcare all together and pursue HVAC. All I am waiting for now is for the college to establish a start date for the program so I can finally start. I decided against nursing because I don't want to have a single exit exam decide whether I can become a nurse. I actually started a thread about this last summer that got quite heated: https://allnurses.com/general-nursing-student/well-no-nursing-498611.html Good luck in your nursing studies!
  4. Donald11

    Anyone attending Mildred Elley in N.Y.C?

    You guys do know that at Mildred Elley, only 4 people in the 2009 class took the NCLEX out of 30 students...
  5. Donald11

    Well, No Nursing for Me

    "you may want to reconsider...as long as the school has a good NCLEX passing rate it would be worth it. My school did exit exams, and an exam to gauge how we were doing every semester, but they have an over 90% passing rate on the NCLEX...the honest truth is...exit exams are a good gauge because if you can't pass an exit exam you probably won't be able to pass the NCLEX." If you read some of the posts, many people have done poorly on the HESI but passed the NCLEX. Also, I could not care less what a school's NCLEX pass rate is if they are using an exit exam since the exam does inflate their pass rate by ensuring that only the smartest students take the NCLEX. Also, believe it or not, but there are plenty of schools out there in which only 1 student graduated and took the NCLEX. And if that 1 student passes, the school has a 100% NCLEX pass rate. If only 1 student took the exam, can you really take the school's 100% pass rate seriously? I visited a school recently that had a 100% pass rate on the NCLEX. I dug up the school's data on the BON website and, out of 30 students, only 4 took the NCLEX for the prior year. There are plenty of schools where I can count the number of students who took the NCLEX on one hand. This is not an exaggeration. Would the 26 students who did not graduate make bad nurses? Would they all fail the NCLEX? I think it would be hard to answer yes. (and if you do answer yes to these questions, then the school should be shut down ASAP).
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    Well, No Nursing for Me

    I find it hilarious how so many people here are defending exit exams. You guys do relaize that the majority of older nurses have not taken them? Exit exams have not always been around, they more or so popped up about 15 years ago. So how do you exit exam supporters argue that the exams are needed to ensure that nurses are competent, when, the fact of the matter is, a substantial numer of nurses have never taken such an exam? My mother graduated from RN school in the early 80s. I asked her if she took an exit exam. She had no idea what I was talking about. I had to explain the test to her.
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    Well, No Nursing for Me

    And to the people who say that FINAL exams are the "exit exam" please understand that final exams are a joke compared to a comprehensive exit exam like the HESI. On the final, you are only tested on material you learned in that one class. That's it. You are not tested on 2 or 4 years worth of material liek you are on the exit exam.
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    Well, No Nursing for Me

    "Not only that, pharmacists and MD's take a LOT bigger entrance exam(MCAT and PCAT), than an 8th grade level TEAS test(and yes the TEAS is 8th grade level)." True, but many nursing schools use the NLN exam, which is no picnic. It includes some pretty hard science questions. I took the NLN while I Was in HS and an A + student in A & P, bio, and chem, but totally bombed the test.
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    Well, No Nursing for Me

    Doctors are not interested in nurses catching their mistakes. I have 6 doctors in my family and many of them are not big fans of nurses. My cousin wrote up a nurse for calling him by his first name instead of doctor. True story.
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    Well, No Nursing for Me

    "BTW, my school has a 100% pass rate on the NCLEX-RN, which leads me to believe that the Exit HESI is doing its job." So the only purpose of the HESI is to allow schools to have a 100% NCLEX pass rate? And more importantly, is there any justification at all for exit exams in nursing school when medical school students do not have to take any exit exam to get their MD? How can anyone justify holding nursing students to a higher standard than medical students?
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    Well, No Nursing for Me

    "if you cannot pass the exam on the second try, you don't deserve to graduate nor become a nurse." I don't know if I would agree with that statement. For a hands on field like nursing, you simply cannot judge someone's ability on a standardized test. The test is not going to tell you if they know how to insert an IV or catheter properly, now is it? Somone who passes the exit exam with flying colors could easily turn out to be a horrible nurse for that reason. In fact, it is actually harder to become an EMT because in addition to passing a written test, they must also pass a practical exam given by the state in order to get certified. Not so with nurses. The best written exam in the world cannot determine whether you know the hands on part of nursing.
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    Well, No Nursing for Me

    Yes, I know the NCLEX is an exit exam. But at least that I can take an unlimited number of times. With a school based exit exam, you usually can take it only twice.
  13. Donald11

    Well, No Nursing for Me

    After carefully thinking about it, I have decided not to do nursing. I do however thank everyone for the advice they gave me. I would like to do nursing, but virtually all of the schools in my area use exit exams, which I find are unfair. The more I research them, the more I dislike them. Here is just one recent article I found, in which the ENTIRE nursing class failed the exit exam. Unbelievable. http://www.fox16.com/news/story/More-problems-for-UAPB-nursing-students/PzjkwO5ilEKz23_DwXW2hw.cspx Good luck to everyone else!
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    Associates vs. Bachelors

    My mother has been a supervisor with just an ADN. She's not one now, but that is because she does not want the added responsibilities. In many places, office politics rather than education and experience dictates who gets a promotion. I keep hearng talk about the BSN becoming the new entry level requirement for nurses, but my mother has never had trouble getting a job due to a lack of a BSN. Most of her co-workers only have an ADN as well.
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    Should I pursue a BSN or LPN

    "You may as well go for one or two more years and get that bachelors degree!" Why? If you can be working during those 2 years instead of in school, you would be better off financially. Your earning potential would be greater and you student loan debt lower. In economics, this is what is referred to as "opportunity cost." Not only must you count the cost of doing something, in this case going to school, but you must also factor in the money you would earn by not doing that activity, in this case working instead of going to school.
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    What purpose does the HESI test serve?

    The HESI is there to help schools inflate their NLCEX pass scores by ensuring that only the best of the best students are allowed to take it. SCST mentioned that their school gives you 6 shots at the test, but some schools like Lincoln Tech give you as few as 2. I feel very strongly about these tests and refuse to enroll in any school that uses them. Some will say that this is insane, but schools should not be allowed to pick and choose who gets to become a nurse. If the school won't let me take the NCLEX after passing all my classes due to a low grade on the HESI, fine. But how about you refund my tuition?