university of phoenix RN and clinicals???

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Hey i am thinking about taking the rn program at university of phoenix right now i am only a cna i talked to the school today and they said i can take the hole rn program there and in about 4 years i can get my bachelors rn and i can do all the clinicals threw the state board has anyone done this and is it hard to get clinical times? and do they help you set up clinicals? is this lidgit? i have to have a full time job to be able to suport myself so i would perfer online classes please can any one help me figure out this

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Specializes in LTC, Psych, Hospice.

I talked to Phoenix a while back about their BSN program and was told it was only for RN to BSN (I'm an LPN). Maybe it's different in your state.

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Specializes in CT stepdown, hospice, psych, ortho.

Clinicals through the state board?

I'd clarify this point. I've never heard of such a thing and will be checking in on this thread to see if anyone else has. If the state board offers clinicals, that should please a lot of nurses out there who are stuck unable to graduate from their online NP programs due to not having clinical sites and preceptors.

OP, this is not meant to be mean so please don't take it as such, it is just a word to the wise. Your entry is full of spelling errors and I found I had to re-read it to understand your post. We all make typos (especially me!) and don't always proofread. I'm bad about run on sentences and ignoring all that is holy in punctuation. I just want to stress to you that online courses require a great deal of writing because you aren't there to convey messages in person.

Make sure you are prepared to deal with the writing requirements. A nursing program is going to expect that you are able to write well. BSN programs have a great deal of research and paperwork built into the program. There are several good books that address mechanics and style (like the "Writing for Dummies" kind of series) without boring you to death or being ridiculously long. They are nothing to be ashamed of, I used one to get through statistics. :p

Just make sure you set yourself up for success in any way that you can. >> The writing you put in a patient's chart becomes part of a permanent record. Repeated errors in spelling and punctuation can look unprofessional and come back to haunt you.

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I of course respect your decision to become a nurse but would suggest you look into a real (ie non-online school). Many real universities offer some on-line classes but I know for a fact that many medical centers specifically do not accept applicants from on line universities, e.g. this is from the Stanford new RN residency program: under minimum qualifications:

1) Graduate from a BSN or master's level entry into practice program, accredited by National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC) or Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE), between 12/1/09 to 6/30/10.

2) Graduates of online or distance nursing programs are not accepted.

It is super difficult to get a job right now, nobody knows if and when this will turn around, I would give myself every advantage.

best of luck

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I haven't done their program online, but I did do a large portion of my undergrad online. I have to say... I am a very good student, but the online classes I found MUCH harder than in person. Especially with things such as math and sciences. I did a lot more work, and got very little out of it. However, this may just be the way I learn; I find it easier to learn Nursing hands-on.

I don't have any suggestions as to whether this is a good program, but I would encourage you to look into your career. I have to work full-time to support myself also, so finding time for school was difficult. What I did was take on a night-time shift at an assisted-living facility. This gives me full-time hours/benefits, but also gave me my days/weekends for school work. Very tiring, but it worked for me.

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I of course respect your decision to become a nurse but would suggest you look into a real (ie non-online school). Many real universities offer some on-line classes but I know for a fact that many medical centers specifically do not accept applicants from on line universities, e.g. this is from the Stanford new RN residency program: under minimum qualifications:

1) Graduate from a BSN or master's level entry into practice program, accredited by National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC) or Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE), between 12/1/09 to 6/30/10.

2) Graduates of online or distance nursing programs are not accepted.

It is super difficult to get a job right now, nobody knows if and when this will turn around, I would give myself every advantage.

best of luck

Your response is very rude and belittling to those who are going for or have an online degree. I and many of my co workers are going back to school for our BSN online through University of Phoenix (and other online schools). The Stanford new RN residency program also does not not accept RNs with their associates...that doesn't make an associates degree any less "real", just not what they are looking for. Think twice before posting something that shows so much disrespect to those of us who are working hard for our online degree because we have full time careers and families to support and aren't able to attend classes in a classroom and need the flexibility.

To the OP: You may want to clarify with the University of Phoenix about their admissions, I thought they only had programs for LPN to BSN or RN to BSN, but it may be different where you live. I start classes this month, but a lot of my co workers are already a few classes in and they love but say it is very research oriented. Best of luck to you!

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Specializes in Med/Surg, ICU, ER, Peds ER-CPEN.
Your response is very rude and belittling to those who are going for or have an online degree. I and many of my co workers are going back to school for our BSN online through University of Phoenix (and other online schools). The Stanford new RN residency program also does not not accept RNs with their associates...that doesn't make an associates degree any less "real", just not what they are looking for. Think twice before posting something that shows so much disrespect to those of us who are working hard for our online degree because we have full time careers and families to support and aren't able to attend classes in a classroom and need the flexibility.

To the OP: You may want to clarify with the University of Phoenix about their admissions, I thought they only had programs for LPN to BSN or RN to BSN, but it may be different where you live. I start classes this month, but a lot of my co workers are already a few classes in and they love but say it is very research oriented. Best of luck to you!

There was nothing belittling about her response, the OP wants to do their entire nursing program online, which in most if not all states is just not a possiblity. I personally do not have anything against UofP, our former hospital DON obtained both her BSN & MSN from UofP but does that mean it's the program for me? No there are many online options through local universities for much less money, however many people may not be close enough to such a facility to make the monthly campus trips. But for the OP's initial step in nursing be it LPN or ADN, it needs to be done in a traditional class/clinical setting. She simply posted a clear example of where an online degree could come back to bite you.

OP-best thing to do is go to your state board of nursing website and in the search box type in Excelsior and University of Phoenix and see what they say about it directly.

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Specializes in Occupational Health Nurse/ case manager.
Your response is very rude and belittling to those who are going for or have an online degree. I and many of my co workers are going back to school for our BSN online through University of Phoenix (and other online schools). The Stanford new RN residency program also does not not accept RNs with their associates...that doesn't make an associates degree any less "real", just not what they are looking for. Think twice before posting something that shows so much disrespect to those of us who are working hard for our online degree because we have full time careers and families to support and aren't able to attend classes in a classroom and need the flexibility.

To the OP: You may want to clarify with the University of Phoenix about their admissions, I thought they only had programs for LPN to BSN or RN to BSN, but it may be different where you live. I start classes this month, but a lot of my co workers are already a few classes in and they love but say it is very research oriented. Best of luck to you!

Dear Paroppy,

Re-read midwests response again.....it is not disrespectful or rude but truthful and an an honest appraisal. It is a reality that many hospitals and medical centers do not recognized many online nursing courses due to the issue of accreditation and rigid requirements for the minimal requirements for practice. I am not discounting all online programs, and areas of study, but when it comes to nursing practice, the truth is that many hospitals or healthcare facilities will not recognize online programs. This has been my observation and that of others and to take offense at a statement that is meant to be truthful is miscontrued.

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Specializes in CT stepdown, hospice, psych, ortho.
e.g. this is from the Stanford new RN residency program: under minimum qualifications:

1) Graduate from a BSN or master's level entry into practice program, accredited by National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC) or Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE), between 12/1/09 to 6/30/10.

2) Graduates of online or distance nursing programs are not accepted.

Stanford is whack...what's up with #2??

Are they saying online education isn't up to snuff? If its a question of quality...Duke has online MSN. John Hopkins has online MSN. UNC Chapel Hill has online RN-BSN. There are plenty of lesser known institutions offering degrees every bit as academically challenging as these well known universities. Obviously we see Stanford isn't into riding the educational wave of the future.

What a bunch of snots! (I agree this poster wasn't trying to be offensive to online programs -- I think/hope maybe the "real" was just a poorly chosen word for brick and mortar institutions or "live" programs.)

OP I hear is doing totally online original RN programs in a couple of states (CA and TX? maybe?) but, again, I dunno that nursing is something you want to do totally online. There are programs that are live that you can continue to work while completing. Many CCs do evening RN programs. Check into it. There isn't really a good way around having to squeeze in classes with your clinicals. The concepts and amt of material in a program is vast and some of it is difficult to comprehend without an instructor face to face to clarify. In contrast, a BSN online is not as difficult to accomplish because you have a foundation of knowledge to build upon. The course work is still challenging online but you aren't learning from scratch, so to speak.

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To say that an online program is not "real" and to check "real" universities IS rude and disrespectful to those of us pursuing an online degree.

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Specializes in Occupational Health Nurse/ case manager.
To say that an online program is not "real" and to check "real" universities IS rude and disrespectful to those of us pursuing an online degree.

Perhaps, she could have used a better word, but, she "interpreted" what she meant by putting it into parethesis! ( i.e. non-online programs). The bottom line......you are offended by what is meant to be truthful. This board is about offering opinions, experiences, and observations.

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Your response is very rude and belittling to those who are going for or have an online degree. I and many of my co workers are going back to school for our BSN online through University of Phoenix (and other online schools). The Stanford new RN residency program also does not not accept RNs with their associates...that doesn't make an associates degree any less "real", just not what they are looking for. Think twice before posting something that shows so much disrespect to those of us who are working hard for our online degree because we have full time careers and families to support and aren't able to attend classes in a classroom and need the flexibility.

To the OP: You may want to clarify with the University of Phoenix about their admissions, I thought they only had programs for LPN to BSN or RN to BSN, but it may be different where you live. I start classes this month, but a lot of my co workers are already a few classes in and they love but say it is very research oriented. Best of luck to you!

cb_rn

wow. I apologize if I offend. Truly. I was simply trying to offer advice from someone who asked for it. I do not think of myself as better than an other RN. You are correct every RN is licensed, all passed the same exam and all can provide the same level of care. Furthermore, experience trumps education in every case in which individuals are consciousness and concerned about providing quality care.

That said, all else equal, a BSN and having a degree from a non-on-line program increases your employment options. It is a tough job market and evey advantage can help. this was all I was saying and I think if you view it objectively you would agree.

I did not mean any offense, simply offering the best advice I could. Perhaps before blowing up at someone you should consider if the advice is sound rather than a knee-jerk reaction.

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