Clinical Site with criminal background - page 2
Hi, If anyone can give me some feedback on the following situation I am facing it would be greatly appreciated. I am in the state of FL, and I have a recent conviction on my record for Grand Theft. Nevertheless, I have... Read More
- 1Apr 21, '12 by Hapinustu29I am so sorry about your situation due to the fact that we all make mistakes. I am currently in nursing school, which is good. My school has a policy of accepting students with criminal backgrounds, however, they do advise that if what you were convicted of will hinder you from getting your license and getting a job, you shouldn't waste your money. The school sees it as, they are not there to judge people based on their backgrounds, but there to teach. I wish the same could be applied to you. I personally have a minor incident on my record, but I was not convicted and all charges were dropped. But I am working on getting it expunged. Good luck, stay strong and keep believing in God, he is more than able.
- 2Apr 21, '12 by nursegirl75I think you have to look at it from the hospital's point of view. When you do rotation at the hospital, they essentially become 'responsible' for you and any of your actions. So someone with a criminal background is a BIG BIG liability because if you hurt a patient and you have a criminal background, the hospital not only would be sued but they could potentially lose their credibility for not checking their employees. No hospital wants to take that risk.
You can't complain because of your criminal background. No one made you do what you did. So now you need to live with the consequences and move on. The healthcare system is not like working at wal-mart. We are responsible for pt's lives and are exposed to their confidential information. So that's why there are reasons why background checks are essential to protect pt's.
- 2Apr 22, '12 by rn/writer GuideQuote from Mechelle101You said your conviction was recent. That tends to go against you as you haven't had much time to prove yourself or demonstrate that you have changed what got you in trouble in the first place. It might be different if you were 8-10 years out and had kept yourself on the straight and narrow that whole time. Then, maybe a good track record and some favorable character witnesses might give you a chance.Wow! Not much confidence that this is going to go in my favor. Everyone, including the school seems to be focused on the money involved in the process and me not getting a license at the end. When in fact its been posted time and time again that the BON looks at everyone indiviually. Therfore, my end may be very different from others. I am fully aware of the time and money involved and that I may not get my license right away, but it can still happen someday, and even if it dosen't the things I learn in the process can never be taken away. What bothers me is that I can be denied the education because of my background. At the clinical site I am being supervised and I am with a group as stated before. They are not agreeing to hire me, only teach me. Nevertheless, I will walk into the meeting on Monday with the directors at my school and present my case with my head held high because although they think they have the final word, truth is only GOD can make final decisions in my life.
Thanks for the comments.
Even so, there are some convictions that rule out a nursing career forever. In my state, for instance, you can't ever get a nursing license if you have been convicted of a crime that involves hurting a child or another vulnerable person.
This isn't just about money. It's more about trust. And good judgment.
Nurses have access to private information, powerful drugs, and patients who at times can be pretty defenseless. They may work in people's homes and take care of those who can't speak for themselves or lodge a complaint if someone is harming them. Each state BON is, in effect, vouching for the good character and sound judgment of the people it licenses. If the BON doesn't think someone is a good risk, they will not be granted a license.
As others have mentioned, it's highly unlikely that a school will go out of its way to work with you if they know up front that you won't pass the criminal background check. And that's a good thing. At least they won't be taking your money dishonestly, knowing full well that they can't accommodate you for clinicals.
I suggest that you research the laws in your state in reference to your conviction. Is this something that closes the door permanently? If so, try to redirect your energy toward a more feasible goal. If there is any leeway, work to build up a good reputation. Start gathering a resume that demonstrates good character and trustworthiness. Get counseling and make amends regarding the offense that got you into trouble so that you can truly say that you have shown remorse and worked to put things right.
I hope you can find a good way forward.
- 0Apr 22, '12 by Esme12, BSN, RN Senior ModeratorNRSKaren gave you great information. I am so sorry you are experiencing this and I am proud you are trying to turn your life positive but the reality is that you may need to put this dream on hold for a while. Prepare yourself for with a Grand Theft conviction you mat be unable to attend school for the time being. I would contact a lawyer to see how to best move forward.
I wish you the best.
- 1Apr 22, '12 by NCRNMDMI'm so sorry to hear that you are going through this roller coaster ride of an experience. To be brutally honest with you, you would not be accepted to my nursing program, and you would not be allowed to take the NCLEX-RN by my BON. My program performs background checks prior to letting anyone in, and they are very stringent about their policies. They do not bend the rules for anyone, and rightfully so. It would be unfair to you to take your money and give you a nursing education that you could never professionally use. It would be unfair to the clinical sites to let a convicted felon into their facilities. It would be unfair to the patients and other students with whom you were working.
It's great to see that you are in the process of turning your life around, but you need to find out all the facts first. I would contact a lawyer, make my best case with the nursing program, ask about the possibility of reapplying in the future, and see what I could do to get the situation straightened out. Good luck and best wishes.
- 0Apr 22, '12 by KimberlyRN89, BSN, RNOP, please understand that no one hear is trying to be "mean", just provide you with the honest truth. Let's say that your school did allow you to arrange your own clinical sites. What about the clinical instructor? I've seen on this board that CI's can ask for $40-$50 per hour for a private clinical day(and your clinicals could range from 4 -12 hrs). Also, like it has been mentioned many times on this thread, the background check you have to undergo to be allowed at the facility. Also, if you make it all the way through school & go on to take your boards, when you fill out your application for licensure for your state board of nursing, there is always a section asking about criminal convictions. They could possibly deny you from sitting for the NCLEX. And then all your time in school would have been in vain. I'm sorry that this is happening OP, but there are other avenues available in the healthcare field that you could consider. Best of luck to you .
- 1Apr 23, '12 by mikeicurn"Wow! Not much confidence that this is going to go in my favor. Everyone, including the school seems to be focused on the money involved in the process and me not getting a license at the end. When in fact its been posted time and time again that the BON looks at everyone indiviually"
What you are getting here are honest opinions. Your friends will all tell you how unfair it is, and how the school is being mean to you. Truth is, you have a lot stacked up against you. You might be able to work it out, but it's going to take time and effort.
- 1Apr 25, '12 by jtmarcy12Michele101 I agree with some of the other posts. You should contact the BON and be sure anyone with a felony conviction cannot be a nurse. Yes they do handle case by case, but that is in misdemeanor cases. Romans 8:28 says God causes ALL things to work together, ..for those who are CALLED and according to his purpose. Maybe God maybe trying to steer you in another direction so that you will not waste time and money. We can be confident and hopeful for you, but sometimes the truth be told we cannot make things happen if it is not suppose to happen. No matter how hard a person tries maybe this is not your path. Only in prayer will you get that answer! One of my favorite Ministers always says " we reap what we sow, more than we sow later than we sow". God does forgive us, but many times we still have to suffer the consequences of the things we have done, no matter how long ago or how sincere we have become. What God may allow is another door to be opened for you! I will keep you lifted up in prayer God Bless!
- 0Apr 25, '12 by HorseshoeQuote from Mechelle101So what happened at the meeting?Wow! Not much confidence that this is going to go in my favor. Everyone, including the school seems to be focused on the money involved in the process and me not getting a license at the end. When in fact its been posted time and time again that the BON looks at everyone indiviually. Therfore, my end may be very different from others. I am fully aware of the time and money involved and that I may not get my license right away, but it can still happen someday, and even if it dosen't the things I learn in the process can never be taken away. What bothers me is that I can be denied the education because of my background. At the clinical site I am being supervised and I am with a group as stated before. They are not agreeing to hire me, only teach me. Nevertheless, I will walk into the meeting on Monday with the directors at my school and present my case with my head held high because although they think they have the final word, truth is only GOD can make final decisions in my life.
Thanks for the comments.
Even though the clinical site would not be hiring you, they are doing more than just teaching you. They are allowing you to represent them to patients and family. They are allowing you to interact with these same patients and family, who can be vulnerable and quite trusting. They are taking on potential liability for your actions. If something goes wrong, they are not going to escape legal ramifications simply because you are not an actual employee.
If I were in charge of a clinical site, I would be VERY hesitant to allow someone with a Grand Theft conviction in my facility.