Does Obamacare 2014 allow only BSRN to sit for NCLEX-RN? - page 3

Does Obamacare 2014 allow only BSRN degrees to sit for NCLEX-RN? Not diploma or associate degree RN? A student I talked to yesterday said that SNAP (Student Nurses' Association of PA) was saying... Read More

  1. by   elkpark
    Quote from dirtyhippiegirl
    Well, at least 'round mah parts, the only diploma educated nurses working in hospitals are nurses who were initially licensed 20-30+ years ago.

    I, too, would look towards nurses who have been in nursing for longer than I've been alive for guidance and advice.
    While I am one of the diploma nurses who has probably been in practice longer than you've been alive, please be aware there are still existing diploma schools currently turning out graduates.
  2. by   xoemmylouox
    I don't care if a nurse is an LPN, RN, BSN, MSN, Etc. I just want a nurse who will take care of me the way I would them. This thread is just to get everyone riled up. Sorry but it's dumb. Anyone with common sense is going to know a FEDERAL issue is not going to single out PA as the only state they would enforce this. What has happened to Allnurses?? We need our crusty old bats to come and save us!
  3. by   ohioSICUrn
    wow! I guess my one year of practice as an ADN prepared RN was completely devoid of critical thinking skills...lol....
  4. by   netglow
    Awwww, this is just a bush league Romney commercial, folks

    Don't feed the troll.
  5. by   herring_RN
    Actual text of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
    Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act - U.S. Government ...

    There is a lot I don't like about this law, but it does not mention entry into practice.
  6. by   redhead_NURSE98!
    Quote from tewdles
    Mostly because he doesn't want it to JUST be a bad word....and the way it was being used prior to his embracing it, "Obamacare" was pretty much a derogatory word used in a critical way by his political opponents.
    Which is so funny considering it's an alleged bipartisan bill that in no way resembles the way it was originally proposed.
  7. by   redhead_NURSE98!
    Quote from Anoetos
    Because they're always better?
    Almost always.

    Just my observation.
  8. by   RNGriffin
    Students and the insecure ones who come on here bashing everyone's credentials really need to have supporting documents when making assumptions. If you learn one thing from this site, you should take away that, "word of mouth is not a credible source". As a nurse or nursing-student you should have learned how to perform evidential based care long ago. I am a MSN-prepared nurse ,and I would discount any person who walks on this earth and tells me that an ADN is less qualified than a BSN. Yes those individuals have 2 year degrees in comparison to the 4 years, but the only difference in preparation is for management positions, which he/she could earn through work experience. When both leave their curriculum based setting you will have just as much experience as the next. So, eliminate the need to glorify yourself based on degree. Nursing is all about knowledge and skill....Utilize your research skills and justify your opinions with facts...Tis all
    Last edit by RNGriffin on Oct 22, '12
  9. by   dalmationloverRN
    There is no such program entitled Obamacare,and while many states and organizations would like to see nursinng

    professionals have a BSN to enter the field of Nursing no such legislation has been passed in any of the United States ,so yes you are inaccurate
  10. by   BuckyBadgerRN
    Um, ALL nurses use critical thinking skills---even some of those best nurses you know that ONLY have an ADN. Your post wasn't helpful at all...

    Quote from BPeng
    Obamacare is going to effect nurses with ADNs and diplomas by banning them from working in hospital settings. Those who have an ADN or diploma will be grandfathered into the system. But I don't know if that will kick them out if they try to change jobs or not. This is going to encourage those with ADNs and diplomas to go back and achieve higher education. I personally think it is a good idea because you need the critical thinking skills to achieve the best possible outcomes for patients. But some of the best nurses I know only have an ADN. We will see what happens. Hope this helps.
  11. by   NRSKarenRN
    Licensure is a function of STATE government, not Federal government. PA BON and State law regulates the profession of nursing. The Affordable Care Act makes recommendations for a higher educated workforce, has provisions for financing of nursing education programs for advanced practice and nursing education roles but cannot legislate nursing education levels.

    Board Approved Programs
    Considering that PA has 19 Diploma Programs, 27 Associate Degree Programs that would be impacted along with 36 Baccalaureate Degree Programs --no current legislative action to change PA's educational programs.

    However, market forces in SE PA: glut of new graduates, closure/consolidation of hospitals, shift to out-patient care, and IOM/RWJ report The Future of Nursing: Leading Change, Advancing Health Focus on Education recommending 80% nursing staff have BSN by 2020, have led many Philadelphia area hospital systems to hire only BSN educated staff for past 2 years.
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Oct 23, '12
  12. by   Streamline2010
    Quote from netglow
    Awwww, this is just a bush league Romney commercial, folks

    Don't feed the troll.
    ^^ That is the most asinine response, yet. If you had bothered to read through the entire thread, you'd have seen that I originally posed the question in the in the STUDENT section because I wanted to know what STUDENTS were hearing. I live in PA. We have a lot of diploma schools in the western part of the state, and also community colleges that offer the associate degree. I'm just wondering if I'd be wasting my time going through that schooling only to be told at the end of it that I can't do anything without the BS degree. If that's the case, nursing wouldn't be worth my pursuing, because I am a single adult who already has vocational skills, and it would be more fiscally prudent for me to use them as opposed to invest in a diploma or associate degree RN, unless that RN schooling alone is sufficient to immediately put me back in the workforce at $21/hour or better. Capise now? Troll, yourself.


    Thank you for that concise answer, KarenRN.
  13. by   Wnurses
    As others have stated this has nothing to do with any legislation. The push towards bachelor's prepared nurses is due to the 2010 IOM report on the recommendations for the future of nursing. As well as hospitals pushing for Magnet status.

close