Any nurse who has gone through RAMP/is going through RAMP I have a question...

  1. 0 I am about to enter into the RAMP program, and all I really want to know is if the drug tests are observed? I'm not worried about passing the tests as i am not am addict, this is just a very unfortunate situation. I have a shy bladder. I can barely go in public restrooms if I know someone might walk in. Is urine still the test of choice? If someone could ease my anxiety I would very much appreciate it.
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    Joined Mar '13; Posts: 4.

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  4. Visit  Sadala} profile page
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    I don't know anything about RAMP specifically. I do know that most drug testing is monitored. Even to get into nursing school or drug testing was monitored.
  5. Visit  cardiacrocks} profile page
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    What is the RAMP program? I've never heard of this.
  6. Visit  JustBeachyNurse} profile page
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    RAMP is the impaired nurses program in NJ.
  7. Visit  MichelleRN34} profile page
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    I had a shy bladder once...you learn to pee in front of everyone.....IMO
  8. Visit  njnursenessa} profile page
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    can anyone answer this question? i know all drug testing is somehow monitored, this is not my first time taking a drug test. but pre-employment tests you go in a private bathroom in a lab with someone standing with their ear against the door at most. im under the impression that someone will be watching me through the cracks of a stall, or in a mirror, or my nightmare standing right in front of me while i'm on the bowl.
  9. Visit  wish_me_luck} profile page
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    I do not know about NJ--I am in VA. But, I know my first drug test was observed and it was not through the cracks of a stall. I had to leave the door open with someone (another female) watching me.
  10. Visit  NYCRN82} profile page
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    Im in California and considered moving back to NJ and doing ramp....but I can tell you that in the paperwork there usually is something about policies if the participant has a shy bladder. Up to and including self-cath in some cases. They simply arent going to let you not be observed. Sorry.
  11. Visit  njnursenessa} profile page
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    thanks for the answers ladies, I'll handle this the best way I can think of. New question though- Can my employer fire me for being in RAMP? I was going to try and avoid telling them anything but I re-read my private letter agreement and I'm required to tell them. I guess to answer that it would help if you knew the situation, so here goes...

    Two years ago('11), I let a friend borrow my car to take another friend home. They were pulled over, and friend A was caught with marijuana. Since friend A had a prior drug arrest, and friend B was an innocent bystander, I decided to be noble and take the fall since I owned the car. Note: I was NOT in the car during the traffic stop. Now I am not denying that BEFORE I was licensed I smoked weed occasionally, but I haven't at all since I got my license in '09. I am willing to submit to any kind of drug test they ask for, all I care about is whether or not I get to keep my job.
  12. Visit  jwmwinter} profile page
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    As well as I understand it, you are required to inform your employer of the program. However, to the best of my knowledge, NJ employers are not going to fire you unless you were diverting. I'm enrolled in PNAP, PA's program and was in rehab with a few nurses in RAMP. One was fired for diverting, the other one was not fired based on the fact that she was not diverting. NJ is very forgiving and given the circumstances of your situation, you should be fine. My question to you would be, why would you take the fall for drug possession knowing you were a nurse and you weren't in the car. I hope your friend is gracious for what you did. As far as your urine tests are concerned, they will ALL be monitored and frequent in the beginning. I wish you luck in the next five years with RAMP.
  13. Visit  lovinlife11} profile page
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    That doesn't make sense to take the fall, knowing you're a nurse, for someone else. You're a bigger person than I would be, ever!! Good luck!
  14. Visit  njnursenessa} profile page
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    That's what my attorney said. At the time I was more concerned about keeping friend A out of jail (he had a newborn at the time) and friend B was about to apply for her cosmotology license and I knew her chances would be hurt by a drug arrest. Now that I've gone through the experience I wish I would have kept my mouth shut and let them figure their way out of it.
  15. Visit  morte} profile page
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    and you enabled them to continue.....
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    That's what my attorney said. At the time I was more concerned about keeping friend A out of jail (he had a newborn at the time) and friend B was about to apply for her cosmotology license and I knew her chances would be hurt by a drug arrest. Now that I've gone through the experience I wish I would have kept my mouth shut and let them figure their way out of it.


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