Why In The Heck Should I Be A Loyal Nurse? - page 4
by TheCommuter Asst. Admin
As a nurse, is it really worth it to show loyalty to your place of employment? Perhaps there truly are benefits to being a loyal employee. Maybe not. Your thoughts on workplace loyalty are probably dependent upon the... Read More
- 0Nov 25, '12 by Ruby VeeQuote from dirtyhippiegirlWhile it's true that just because I -- or my numerous nurse friends -- have not experienced something, it does not mean it doesn't exist, it does mean that that thing is not universally true.Just because you haven't experienced something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Even if you enjoy using your crusty old bat status or whatever to your advantage.
- 1Nov 25, '12 by KelRN215Quote from woohI felt this way for a while but then the mistreatment from the institution became too much to bear. My manager was very very good to me during a time of personal and medical crisis and I felt loyal to her because of that. Then when things settled down for me personally, I asked a few too many questions about the way the institution did things and began to see their true colors. I resigned shortly thereafter.I feel some loyalty towards my manager. There have been a couple times she's looked out for me. That's not being naive, as I was burned badly before I started working for her, so I've got my eyes wide open. She really is a good boss. (As far as bosses go! )
But the company? Not so much. I'm just as loyal towards them as they are towards the nursing staff. And that is NONE. They'll screw us over in a heartbeat. Little things here and there add up to big things. They talk a good game with their non-profit philanthropic spouting off about our mission and ideals. But they're just as full of corporate doublespeak as an HCA or Wal-Mart.
In response to the article... I'm 28 and have been a nurse for 5 years and have already had more/as many employers as both of my parents. My father worked for the same company (pretty much... it got bought out by larger companies a few times but he stayed through it all) for his entire career and my mother, a teacher for nearly 40 years, has worked in 3 school systems in all these years. She's been in the same one for the past 20ish and I'm sure will retire there. I entered my career at my "dream hospital" with part of me thinking that I could spend my career there. 4 1/2 years later, I realized there was just no way I could stay in a relationship with the institution.
- 3Nov 25, '12 by TheCommuter Asst. AdminQuote from Joaquin49This doesn't surprise me one bit. Most seasoned nurses have topped out on the wage grid and are earning top pay, whereas new grads often start at the lowest pay rate on the wage grid. The bean counters figure they're saving plenty of money by replacing 'expensive nurses' with cheaper labor, but they're not taking account the wealth of knowledge, experience, and the unspoken 'spidey sense' that highly seasoned nurses bring to the table.I worked in a health institution for 8 years, management fired most of the well seasoned nurses and replaced us with new grads. The world is ruthless sometimes.
We need the highly experienced nurses to transfer their knowledge and skills to the next generation of nurses. Whatever we do, management would be foolish to continue kicking seasoned nurses to the curb just because they earn 'too much money.'
- 3Nov 25, '12 by mariebaileyThis is a great article. I've been told "Your generation will go work somewhere else in a heartbeat for 25 cents more an hour" (or something to that effect). This explains what I haven't adequately articulated: this is not the same work environment it was decades ago, and you cannot be loyal to an organization without trust that the loyalty is mutual. In my 1st job out of nursing school, the organization laid off 10% of its staff and sent many into early retirement in my 1st 2 years there. Lesson learned: allegiance to an employer may not be judicious.
- 7Nov 25, '12 by dfs1961I learned a long time ago that we are all replaceable. All of us. At anytime. I am loyal to my husband and my children. That's about it. I recently left my place of employment (hospital, med/surge/tele) after 5 years. I was good to them, they were good to me. I got my masters degree on their dime. I am now working my dream job at an elementary school. It works better for my family. And you know what? Life goes on at the hospital. I have been replaced and no one knows the difference. And I'm sure if I left my current job, they could replace me within a few days. A job is a job. My family is the most important thing in my life.
- 2Nov 26, '12 by ButterfliesnrosesI have worked for the same company since 2004. I was 19 when I started there as a CNA and now work there as a nurse. I changed my status to on-call for awhile to work at another facility for a 6 dollar/hr increase. The employer I currently work at FT offered me a matching wage, and is 5 min from my home vs 30 min from my home. Also it feels like home there. So of course, I went back there FT. I stay casual at the other place and have worked there for 2-3 yrs.
I am loyal to an extent. However that place is owned by a huge corporation plus has gone through more DNS's than I can count on 1 hand. If I was offered a job that fit in with my lifestyle better or if I felt like I was getting screwed over I'd leave. On the other side of the coin they would replace me if I screwed up enough times or for whatever reason. I used to feel really secure in my job and not so much anymore. I just try to be a valuable employee, be their for my residents, and take it one day at a time. In the end tho I WILL do what's best for my family bc if I died today my employer would replace me within 5 min but my family could NEVER EVER replace me.
- 2Nov 26, '12 by brandy1017I will end up paying more for my health insurance if anything major happens to me, then they will give for retirement, 5% cash balance pension. Our health insurance got worse again this year nothing new, then they have a survey about how we feel about benefits what would we like. Are you kidding me! It is disrespectful and insulting to constantly cut the benefits and then pretend to give a damn!
- 1Nov 26, '12 by BrandonLPNQuote from Ruby VeeRuby, I would argue that even the experiences you described constitute a form of disloyalty on the part of your employer. Loyal, hard working nurses are suddenly expected to uproot their lives because the company decided to restructure? Other loyal staff are given the dubious "privilege" of being first considered for future openings?The fact that most of us view this as benevolent behavior just goes to show how inherently one-sided the employer-employee relationship really is.I started my career in the late 70s, and in all of the years since, I have never seen what the OP describes as standard operating procedure. Executives, including nurse executives may wax and wane in favor, and I have seen entire departments eliminated or merged with other departments. In most of those cases, though, the displaced nurses and even nurse executives were offered other jobs within the network or at the very least, the first opportunity to bid on any open positions. The only nurses jobless at the end of the restructuring were those who chose to be. The only place I've ever "seen" the type of disloyalty to employees described by the OP is in the large CaliforniaHMO where my sister, as nurse executive, purges her staff from time to time. I'd always assumed it was my sister's disloyalty to her employees, not the HMO's, although I could be wrong.In my current job, working for a large healthcare system, what I've seen is that every employee we've had to let go as a poor fit is offered 2-4 weeks pay after their employment ends and all possible assistance in finding a new job within the system. Only the employees who are fired for cause (like the guy whose solution to a recalcitrant Pyxis was to kick in the screen or the guy who was found passed out in the employee bathroom surrounded by vials of Fentanyl with a needle in his arm) aren't offered the chance to find a new position in the system. That's the way it's been everywhere I've worked in the past 35 years.