I'm seeing a lot of unprofessional posting here related to venting about patients - pg.2 | allnurses

I'm seeing a lot of unprofessional posting here related to venting about patients - page 2

Hi, I'm just a newbie here but I have to comment on what I'm seeing here. Specifically nurses sharing their stories of their interactions with difficult patients. Surely it is unprofessional to... Read More

  1. Visit  mariebailey profile page
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    I think you'll find a lot more than venting going on in these forums. What may look like venting often turns into a discussion that facilitates learning. I have had many "aha" moments reading these threads that have helped me professionally, even if it's simply realizing that I'm not alone in what I'm going through at work. I concur with other replies. We are bound by Terms of Service and HIPAA - we are always obligated to protect our patient's privacy, whether we are on the clock or not.
    loriangel14, multi10, Intentional, and 13 others like this.
  2. Visit  violetgirl profile page
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    Are you a nursing instructor??
    OCNRN63 likes this.
  3. Visit  joanna73 profile page
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    Opinions are very subjective. If it was true that there was "a lot of unprofessional posting" as you claim, OP, moderators will intervene with warnings. Sometimes this happens, but not often before the post is closed. After you have worked as a nurse for awhile, you will realize why people come here to vent. People also use AN to share information, ask questions, and have fun.
    loriangel14, opossum, netglow, and 5 others like this.
  4. Visit  barnstormin' profile page
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    I have to admit, I have figured out who three other posters are just by what they have posted and their user names. Knowing that if I recognized who these people were by their posts, I am very hesitant to post anything because I feel it would identify me and I like being anonymous. I do feel that most nurses here are aware of the boundaries and try to avoid identifying details. If I didn't have allnurses to read I'd go nuts.
  5. Visit  elkpark profile page
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    I agree it's important to avoid revealing details about a case that could enable someone to identify a particular individual or facility. However, beyond that, everyone is free to avoid threads they don't approve of or enjoy.
    loriangel14, nursel56, wooh, and 1 other like this.
  6. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
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    If we can't vent on here, with people who are supposed to be other nurses, people who know what we go through day in and out, where else? Do we let it bottle up? Do we end up just exploding at patients/patient families/OUR families/doctors/administration/etc because we had no safe outlet to get rid of our frustration and seek advice on how to cope? We are human, and not venting in our very stressful situations could be disastrous, and I think the above mentioned outlets would be much worse than coming on AN.
    I concur that we are bound by HIPAA, and that the Admins on here do a pretty good job of censoring what needs to be censored. If you disagree, then I am sure they would be happy to receive your advice on how to get better.
    And to those who have identified people based on their profiles and posts: The only way I can think of that this would be possible is if these are people you already know. Like, say, work colleagues. And if you can tell who/what situation they are talking about from their posts, then you probably already are hearing about it in the workplace. Just my two cents.
    loriangel14, wooh, psu_213, and 4 others like this.
  7. Visit  DeLanaHarvickWannabe profile page
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    Why don't you PM Brian and share your concerns with him? He makes the rules, and he has his reasons for those rules. If nothing else, he may give you tips on how to create your own message board so you can be pickier about what is posted.

    But, in the end, until one of the mods tells me I've posted something inappropriate (and yes, it's happened!), I'm not going to change what I've posted.

    And...I find it unprofessional to judge us without walking a mile in our mocassins.
    loriangel14, KelRN215, **LaurelRN, and 10 others like this.
  8. Visit  RyanCarolinaBoy profile page
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    shakin my head...

    I get so tired of STUDENTS coming onto the site, and telling those of us who have been in the trenches for years how/what we need to do and say...it's the same mentality with new grads coming onto the floors and deciding that "they" know better than the experienced nurses who have been doing this for years.

    OP-work a few years, keep your nose to the grindstone, and try not to be so 'more rightous' than other nurses. I promise you, someday you WILL understand where we come from!
    loriangel14, KelRN215, SShannon81, and 14 others like this.
  9. Visit  SionainnRN profile page
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    Quote from RyanCarolinaBoy
    shakin my head...

    I get so tired of STUDENTS coming onto the site, and telling those of us who have been in the trenches for years how/what we need to do and say...it's the same mentality with new grads coming onto the floors and deciding that "they" know better than the experienced nurses who have been doing this for years.

    OP-work a few years, keep your nose to the grindstone, and try not to be so 'more rightous' than other nurses. I promise you, someday you WILL understand where we come from!
    Yep it's amazing how self righteous students can be!! They also seem to be the first to tell you to find a new job when you vent!!
    loriangel14, SShannon81, tokmom, and 3 others like this.
  10. Visit  SNB1014 profile page
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    ooooooo girl! you are in for a world of sass in these replies!
    i thought the same when i first came on here when i got admitted to nursing school.
    now after school clinicals, working as a tech during school and starting my first position as an rn, i can see why a lot of the "venting/mean" posts come about.
    i tell my husband (hippa approved ) some of what goes on at work and he thinks im exaggerating or should just tell the patients to eff off if they are speaking like that or to "help them foster some independence and ignore the call bell for the 10th time in an hour" etc. welllllll i may want to do that, but i cant. i get help, advice and strength here.
    loriangel14, Altra, tokmom, and 3 others like this.
  11. Visit  Glycerine82 profile page
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    Seriously? We all have patients we love and adore. Patients who remind us why we do what we do. (Not a nurse yet, but I am a CNA and get the brunt of some of the abuse and also a lot of love). Our loved ones have no idea what its like. AN is a great place to come and vent and talk about the stuff that no one else would understand.

    Work a 12 hour shift, have a patient tell you you're no good at your job, demand that you do things for him/her that they are perfectly capable of doing themselves, have a patient slap you across the face because they don't know any better. Break your back and bend over backwards leaving you completely exhausted and no good for the rest of today and maybe tomorrow and then tell me you don't feel the need to go somewhere and let off some steam anonymously.

    While I appreciate the fact that you're a student (so am I ) and you have this idea of professionalism, I promise you everyone here loves most of their patients, but sometimes we just need to vent and talk about the things that happen to us. We are all human, the patients are human and sometimes are totally out of line. We can't tell them that. Our spouses probably don't understand, so we come to AN and vent a little. Not a big deal..... relax.
  12. Visit  anotherone profile page
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    Probably a troll... but what is more appropriate outlet? calling the pt and his/her family out on it in their room? complaining to coworkers ? dont like it, dont participate. most of these vents are a dime a dozen and after a few short years i have seen many pts like the ones described even the highly detailed stories are a dime a dozen
    tokmom, metal_m0nk, wooh, and 1 other like this.
  13. Visit  Raewynv profile page
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    I can sort of understand where everyone is coming from. I am also a mature nursing student that knows nothing when it comes to working in a hospital setting. ( I am still learning and will be for awhile) We did clinical experience last year in rest homes so I can sort of understand how some people can be hard to deal with. We get taught that yes nurses are going to vent and need somewhere to vent and our lectures understand that but we have to be careful on how we do that. In New Zealand we get taught that there can be a two degree separation and you never know who might know your patient that you may know in your personal life. (there are true stories here that people have talked about a patient not knowing that the person they are talking knows the family etc. Those nurses and students have got themselves in hot water). I think that there will be times where we need to vent who ever we are, we just need to have a place where we can vent and people can empathize with us.


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