Why do they give so much ridiculous, insignificant homework????? - page 2

I'm in my 3rd semester of a 4 semester ADN program. I feel like we have MORE hw this semester than ever before. Mind you, the answers to the homework are in the back of the workbook, so this just seems like time consuming busy... Read More

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    I don't really consider it a waste of time, but it bothers me that all the assignments we get that are mandatory don't count towards our grade. Research papers, careplans, presentations, etc. are all "do it or fail" but the only things that actually counts towards our final grade is our exam grades. I feel like all of our assignments are relative to our learning, but I wish that the effort that I put into papers and care plans would affect my grade. It's hard to be motivated to put in my maximum effort, when I know what I need to do in order to meet the bare minimum for passing.

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    This is exactly the reason I have no desire to go back to school. The original plan was for me to get my LPN, then start taking classes again right away for my RN. However I'm SO not in the mood to write papers, make posters, do oral presentations, work in cooperative groups, etc. I am in my 40's and I already have a bachelor's in another field. Been there, done that. I'm done with doing all that busy-work stuff. I know, it's good experience for dealing with people, and retaining info in different ways, blah, blah, blah, I have had my share. I got it. I'm also tired of substandard, humbug-behind-the-curtain professors with god-complexes, in both nursing and general ed classes. I see right through them and hate having to bow and scrape and jump through their hoops. So when I'm ready to advance, I think I'll be doing online study, probably Excelsior. And probably some CLEPs if I need them, too.
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    Most people I know hesitant to do ADN to BSN program cite bullcrap writing as the reason they don't want to do it.

    Most people hate writing papers and the setup of ADN to BSN programs is another thing wrong with nursing today.
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    I'm in my 3rd semester of a 4 semester ADN program. I feel like we have MORE hw this semester than ever before. Mind you, the answers to the homework are in the back of the workbook, so this just seems like time consuming busy work! Then all the care plans, and concept maps and practice tests. I am the kind of person who thrives on listening and learning so none of these extra assignments help. I may sound nuts, but sometimes I wish lectures were longer and get rid of some of the take home work. Since I go to a private university, I'm taking out my life in loans to teach myself?! I called out of clinicals today, which now means I have to make up the day at the end of the term just to have time to finish a care plan for one class and a concept map and hw for the other.

    I am also a divorced mom in my 30's so I have to try to make time for my 5 y/o who has already said she doesn't want to go to college because she sees me doing so much work!!!!

    Please someone talk me off the ledge!
    They're trying to break you, look for the light at the end of the tunnel and go for it.
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    Your mind is being converted from thinking as a resposible citizen to thinking like a nurse. It is not just facts you have to learn. Nursing is a mindset in of itself. You may feel as if it's just busywork. But truly there is a method to the madness of nursing school and the endless homework that comes with it.
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    Come back off the ledge! I remember very well 26 years ago, getting up at 4 am to do my homework and care plans while my children slept. This homework is not insignificant. As you advance your career in the next years you will draw on your previous learning. I am still using the nursing process and plans of care but now also adding concept analysis, care management philosophies, clinical pathway exploration, and value compass design. As an RN with two masters degrees and two national certifications, your work right now is not insignificant.
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    There are pros and cons. I agree, especially since this is my second degree, that it often feels like busywork. I have two young children, one of which I was breastfeeding my first semester (and part of the second) of nursing school. However, now as I finish my last semester and looking back--although it was difficult--I found that having assignments of different types helped me retain a lot of that information. I have developed an ability to be extremely efficient in my work and studies. I also, as much as I had hated them, believe that I can work with even the most difficult of personalities thanks to my group projects. There are many skills here that we will continue with in our career. And there is a purpose to those papers--we are being trained to think critically. Whether you value it or not, that is a very important skill.

    Now granted, that isn't to say that I believe all professors create these assignments with that in mind. When homework is replacing quality instruction/teacher-student time, then I would say that there is also an element of passing the buck going on here. Sometimes, at least, it would seem that way. I had a class that I would argue would have been just as good if offered as a self-paced online course. In fact, we have an EKG interpretation course that is exactly that. But this is easily not the case for most. In regard to care plans, I can also now see the value. My sister, who had been a nurse for a long time before I began my studies told me that it pays off. She said that after a while of doing these I would begin to just look at a person and his/her condition, and all of the nursing diagnoses, interventions, etc. would just pop into my head. And they do!

    I would also recommend you having an active student body, such as at my school. We designate representatives and they participate in faculty meetings, and propose changes on our behalf that they will often put into consideration. And make sure you are giving the school consistent, professional feedback at the end of each semester. Often students pass this up, but they actually put thought into what we say. Sometimes my class will even discuss what we want to say ahead of time. If they hear it from enough of us, it is hard to ignore. Just be aware of whether you have truly found a need for change or are just griping--which is perfectly okay because we need to vent and deal with our stress, but it is not going to elicit much more than sympathy from faculty.

    Also, in our last semester, with the exception of our management class, our "homework" is based on testing scores. For example, we take a comprehensive exam a total of 4 times. Once at the end of the next to last semester, which determines the assignments and study hours we contract for over the summer (we grad in Dec.). It also determines the homework/study hours until the next test a couple weeks into the last semester and this goes on until the final. Your goal is to get the best score possible, lest you have to do a ton of remediation. The remediation is something you come up with--with optional recommendations from your assigned advisor. The worse you do, the more work and study hours you have to contract for. In this case, we have more ownership over what we do and accomplish.
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    I'm also a second career student, and sometimes I really can't believe a) the way some students act like children and
    b) the way some of our instructors treat us like children. I can't say I've ever experienced it 1:1 with instructors,
    but I also talk to them like the intelligent adults we all are.

    Regardless of all that, once you go through the educational process several times, you'll quickly realize how much of
    it is 'busywork' designed to test your perseverance and patience, and how much of it really matters.
    "Suck it up, buttercup" is the phrase I currently live by.
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    So far ipI haven't run across anything I've found to be totally insignificant. In other courses I've struggled with that, though. I'm in college, not elementary school and I expect to be treated as such. I'm here to learn, but I like shouldering that responsibility for as well. We do case studies and projects on certain populations, care plans and per-lab prep work, but I think I would flip if they required "completion grade" back of the book work or vocab word writing or something ridiculous like that.

    I do the practice questions and make flash cards and write out vocab, but its because I'm working out how I learn best. If I don't find something helpful anymore, I can leave it behind and stop wasting time.
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    If it was easy everyone would do it. Would you want it to be "easy"?? Would you like a Doctor who had it "easy"? It isn't insignificant. It shows how bad you want something. And attention to detail is HUGE in nursing. So suck it up and do it. You can cry about it all night long, but the work will still be there in the morning. Or you can just do it and be done with it. It is how it is.


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