Forced wearing of nursing cap. - page 5
I'm a senior registered nursing student and our school has a pinning ceremony to mark the completion of our program. Our class contains about 20% men, equal split of black and white in both... Read More
Dec 12, '12 by MrChicagoRNWhen I earned both my bachelors and then my Masters, in order to participate in the ceremonies, I was forced to wear a mortarboard and a gown that I've never worn since!
Was I discriminated against??? :-)
Dec 12, '12 by Kooky KorkyThe cap is definitely sexist and discriminatory. Get a lawyer.
For those who say she should wear what the majority voted for, you must have missed the part where the MALES do not have to wear caps. Only the females must suffer this dilemma.
And I am really aggravated with those who say it's a little thing, let it go, don't ruffle any feathers. I guess I'd advise her not to be too verbal too soon, that is, before she successfully graduates. But I would not advise her to just roll over. If she feels strongly enough about being discriminated against, get a lawyer and go for the jugular.
Dec 12, '12 by Ntheboat2Quote from MrChicagoRNNo, because it was all or none. Did they say you only had to wear a gown/mortarboard if you were female, and the males could wear something else? I doubt it.When I earned both my bachelors and then my Masters, in order to participate in the ceremonies, I was forced to wear a mortarboard and a gown that I've never worn since!
Was I discriminated against??? :-)
This would be a different issue if they voted for everyone to wear the caps, males included. When you are required to do something that others are not based on your genitals alone it IS discrimination.
Dec 12, '12 by gettingbsn2msnSorry, I would not wear it. I am also 50 years old. This is exactly why I did not go into nursing for my first degree. I am no handmaiden and I refuse to look like one. At my age, sorry I get to decide. I have also been to college prior and was in a sorority. Those days are long gone! If I had to wear it I probably would not even attend the ceremony. That is how strongly I feel about it. Flame away!
Dec 12, '12 by Kooky KorkyQuote from DoGoodThenGoAmerica is a constitutional republic, not a democracy. And you are missing the whole penis/vagina aspect of this issue.Oh for goodness sake.
We happen to live in a democracy, if a vote was held and a majority of the class wishes to wear a cap at graduation in theory that is that. It is not being "forced" by the school but they are following the will of the larger body of graduating students who expressed their views.
The OP has several options open to her:
1. Refuse to wear the cap *and* take her place at the ceremony, basically threatening the powers that be to take action.
2. Do not attend the ceremony on principle or whatever reason she chooses.
3. Suck it up and wear the darn thing, it will only be less than two hours out of nursing career that will span decades (hopefully), and then she can do what countless other grads have; take the cap off and chuck it into a closet/drawer never to see the light of day again.
One assumes this matter was discussed at length before the vote was taken and therefore the OP was given ample time along with others to express her views and or objections. If the majority won the day you can be sure they aren't going to look too fondly upon a *rebel* looking to spoil their special day.
OP, contact someone at EEOC or some other federal agency or your Senators' offices for direction and guidance. Someone federal should teach your school about the LAW. Civil rights or something like that. Go for it, OP. you might never have to work again if you can sue the school for violating your civil rights.
Dec 13, '12 by timmedicoIt is all in good fun (as well as good intent). I'm a guy, and I'd wear the cap! hahaha Now if they wanted to bring back the entire nursing outfit from prior years...well let's just say I'm not wearing a dress!
It shows where nursing has been and how far the profession has progressed. Doesn't necessarily have to be labeled sexist or gender biased.
Dec 13, '12 by Conqueror+, RNThis a byproduct of nursing becoming a "recession-proof, everybody come on in, afterthought career" there is little to no respect for tradition or the history of the profession. I indeed still have my cap and it is on a stand with my pinning pic not a drawer or closet. If it matters I am NOT even 40 years old but I worked hard to make it to my pinning and I take offense to it being called archaic, sexist, cartoonish, and silly. If those are the words that this ceremony and attire bring to your mind perhaps you are the one that doesn't belong, not the traditions of the nursing journey.
Edit: I am indeed no handmaiden or nun but if the thought of being labeled as someone who serves others is so revolting I hope I am NEVER in your care.
Dec 13, '12 by JerseyBSNI think go with the consensus, graduate, never wear the hat again and put your energy into studying for the NCLEX and enjoy being a graduate!
Dec 13, '12 by woohCurious if the male students, who were NOT affected, had a vote in the matter?
Dec 13, '12 by joanna73 GuideThis hasn't been my experience, but I would not want to wear the cap either. As El mentioned, if you are going to don the cap, that involves head to toe whites, not just the cap itself. Otherwise, that's pointless, and scrubs with a cap would look odd. I suppose if you want to participate in the ceremony, you'll have to go with their expectations.
Dec 13, '12 by woohQuote from BlueDevil,DNPApparently so:I think some of you fail to understand the meaning of the word.
Quote from MrChicagoRNWhen there are different rules based on your genitalia, it is discrimination. Making women wear hosiery or a skirt based only on the fact that they have a vagina rather than a penis? Also DISCRIMINATION.When I earned both my bachelors and then my Masters, in order to participate in the ceremonies, I was forced to wear a mortarboard and a gown that I've never worn since!
Was I discriminated against??? :-)
Dec 13, '12 by DoGoodThenGoQuote from brilloheadThat is not the same thing and you know it.I'm reminded of the old maternal saying, "If your friends jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge, would you do it too?"
What if the majority voted that everyone should wear bikinis? Or go naked? Just because the majority voted for something doesn't mean it's a good/necessary thing to do, or that it is appropriate for everyone.
If there is a Muslim woman in the class, would she be allowed to wear a traditional headcovering? Would she be required to wear a nursing cap over the top, or exempted from the rule?
Actually, if they wear just the cap, they might be a bit chilly....
There is a world of difference between engaging in dangerous and or criminal behaviour simply to follow a crowd versus the results of a democratic vote regarding a group function.
What then do you say to those who held the ballot in the first place? What is the point of going through the thing if persons aren't going to abide by the results simply because it rubs them the wrong way.
Dec 13, '12 by DoGoodThenGoQuote from woohDidn't want to go there but it has nothing to with what is between one's legs, but the perceived and or gender a person chooses to associate with.Apparently so:
When there are different rules based on your genitalia, it is discrimination. Making women wear hosiery or a skirt based only on the fact that they have a vagina rather than a penis? Also DISCRIMINATION.
Know via friends several non-op MTF transgender *women* who not only attended nursing programs but graduated and have or continue to wear caps.