Bringing your *new* baby to school.... - page 9

Problem here all....recent member of class had a baby. Now, so far our school has been VERY strict about pretty much everything. Now, I understand that this student is a single mother, on assistance... Read More

  1. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from bluesky
    It is truely dissapointing to see how many women in nursing lack real empathy, isn't it?
    That was really uncalled for.

    Being against this person bringing her baby to school does not mean that one isn't empathetic to her or her situation.
  2. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from rn in 3 years
    Believe me, if the school provided "free" child care they would just charge everyone else more money so it wouldn't really be free, especially for those that don't need the "free" childcare.
    I agree. Someone's always paying for anything that's "free" somewhere.
  3. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from fergus51
    The flip side is that this single mom won't last as a nurse if she thinks her employer is going to accomodate her this way. Can you imagine saying "I couldn't find a sitter, so Jr is going to come with me to work on the medical floor"?.




    Exactly.


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  4. by   ktwlpn
    Quote from Rohan
    I should be surprised at the heartlessness, lack of compassion, lack of caring for a fellow student..but I'm not. Good for you if you have a perfect life, never have something go wrong, etc. I came back to work 3 weeks after I had my second son and the assistant administrator suggested I bring in a playpen and other items so I could have my baby with me when she found out. THAT kind of compassion gave me the strength to keep going at work when I felt like a horrible mother for having to leave him so soon. Instead the company let me work shorter days, have my son brought to work to breast feed and then when no one was here on the weekend I could come in and bring him with me. I realize nursing school is very cut throat and many people are out only for themselves. I for one am going into nursing to HELP people, and that includes my fellow students with children who need to be cut some slack! I wish her the best of luck and I hope she's able to make it through school.
    The problem is that each and every student in the class has a heck of alot invested in the program and does NOT deserve this type of distraction....You can NOT compare a work situation with a learning environment....Many,many companies are becoming more "mother/baby friendly" as they should...But babies do NOT belong IN THE CLASSROOM....The other students should not have to jeopardize their own studies because of a classmates poor planning...IMHO she should be strongly encouraged to temporarily drop out ....Sorry-I don't have much compassion for a grown woman that gets knocked up in the middle of nursing school-Talk about self-defeating behavior...She can make arrangements for every other night while she is in clinical -if she can't make arrangements for the one evening in the classromm then she should withdraw.....
  5. by   loriangel14
    In my part time nursing class we have had 5 girls with newborns at various times and they were allowed to bring them to class until they were about 5-6 months old. With the exception of one person these babies have been welcomed by us, the teachers and administration. We are a close knit class and support our nursing classmates.
  6. by   ktwlpn
    and furthermore-I guess I am lacking in empathy in this case....When I went to nursing school I had left an abusive husband with nothing but a paper sack full of ragged clothes,a cat and a car with 4 flat tires (yes-he flattened them) I lived on my mother's sofa for 4 months....When I finally got my stuff together and got into school I let NOTHING interfere....I was determined to make it -and I did.(I also took birth control.)....There were no handouts for me-It took 10 years to pay off my student loan.I think the simple fact that I paid for it made me take it seriously.The difference between us and animals is that we can practice family planning....Sheesh-you can get condoms at the grocery store-there simply is no excuse these days....
  7. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Quote from fergus51
    The flip side is that this single mom won't last as a nurse if she thinks her employer is going to accomodate her this way. Can you imagine saying "I couldn't find a sitter, so Jr is going to come with me to work on the medical floor"?.
    Lord people, when she becomes a nurse she will be able to AFFORD a sitter! right now, she can't. I don't think she will insist on bringing her baby to work with her--she's just going through a rough spot right now.
    This country changed to a capitalist system without taking into account the fact that there still will be babies born( despite their circumstances of conception) and they need to be looked after. When woman had babies when we were an agricultural economy, women were not working in factories, offices, hosptitals, etc they were in the home and possibly in the fields--their babies were either with them or could come with them. We as women( yes the nursing field is mainly women but, of course the men should join in too) should be rallying for women who need daycare and supporting them instead of hindering them. We moved to this kind of economy and DID NOT make accomodations for families( whatever their size). Instead of complaining about her baby or bragging about how perfect your circumstances are i.e. not having a child before finishing school or nor being a victim of being forced to be a single parent, we should be helping people to better themselves. Why on earth should she stop going to school? Who says she can get back in when her life is "perfect" and allows her to come? She may not be able to do that. People complain about people living off the government and not working, well this woman seems to be doing that. Some one stated that free on campus daycare would be an additional cost to the others who don't need it, well why aren't you complaining about the assistance she is receiving? Which one costs more--5, 10, 15, years to a lifetime of foodstamps and benefits or no more than two more years and then this woman will be a nurse and self sufficient? People always complain about situations they don't understand, and if they took the opportunity to be kind and help bring about change, there would never again have to be a single woman, or man, without the resources they need to have a better life. This is not just an issue that deal with one woman in one classroom, it's a social issue that needs to be dealt with.
  8. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Quote from Marie_LPN
    I agree. Someone's always paying for anything that's "free" somewhere.
    You are paying for her "free" assistance of foodstamps, why not complain about that? Either she finishes school and gets a job or she remains on that assistance that must be paid for.
  9. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from CRNASOMEDAY25
    You are paying for her "free" assistance of foodstamps, why not complain about that? Either she finishes school and gets a job or she remains on that assistance that must be paid for.
    I am not complaining about her being on assistance, i merely agreed that nothing is "free", someone's always paying for it somewhere, no matter what the heck it is.
  10. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Quote from Marie_LPN
    I am not complaining about her being on assistance, i merely agreed that nothing is "free", someone's always paying for it somewhere, no matter what the heck it is.
    point taken.
  11. by   fergus51
    Quote from CRNASOMEDAY25
    Lord people, when she becomes a nurse she will be able to AFFORD a sitter! right now, she can't.
    Did you read the OP's post. This woman has another child who stays with her parents. The baby could possibly do this as well. And like I said, there are SEVERAL other options to help this woman that don't distract her classmates. What is wrong with taping lectures? Writing the test in another room with the baby?

    Also OT, but I agree that child care is something for which we need to advocate. That doesn't make women who choose to have children (in this day and age it is ALWAYS a choice) victims, regardless of their circumstances. No one has a perfect life (I certainly never claimed I did), but that doesn't make people victims.
    Last edit by fergus51 on Oct 21, '05
  12. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Quote from fergus51
    Did you read the OP's post. This woman has another child who stays with her parents. The baby could possibly do this as well. And like I said, there are SEVERAL other options to help this woman that don't distract her classmates. What is wrong with taping lectures? Writing the test in another room with the baby?

    Also OT, but I agree that child care is something for which we need to advocate. That doesn't make women who choose to have children (in this day and age it is ALWAYS a choice) victims, regardless of their circumstances. No one has a perfect life (I certainly never claimed I did), but that doesn't make people victims.
    Maybe the parents won't watch the baby, I know a lot of people who will not even touch newborns.
  13. by   fergus51
    Quote from CRNASOMEDAY25
    Maybe the parents won't watch the baby, I know a lot of people who will not even touch newborns.
    OK, so how about the taping idea? Does it make me completely uncompassionate if I don't see the problem with that?

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