Unethical Practices? - page 2

Is it just me, or is anyone else a bit hopeful that someone from Allnurses.com made it perfectly clear that they will not be the platform for unethical "studies?" Clearly here, informed consent did... Read More

  1. by   sunnygirl272
    Originally posted by maggie7
    WTPh?
    BWahhaaaa
  2. by   KC CHICK
    The word 'mean' can be interpreted in many different ways.
    I think we're expressing ourselves and our opinions. That's healthy from a psychological standpoint, don't you think?

    If this is in fact going to be in a professional presentation, then you need to behave as such and inform your study participants of your intentions/actions beforehand.
    For your information, the internet is not a VALID source of most information.....but you probly already knew that, right? Don't you have to cite your sources.....VALID sources... in any kind of study? Especially a scientific study?
    Otherwise, it's just another opinion in a vast ocean of opinions.....and it doesn't matter.

    Anne
    Last edit by KC CHICK on Feb 20, '03
  3. by   Q.
    Oh don't sweat it Anne. There ain't no study going on. And if it was, it's completely flawed. And Jay Bird knows this.

    MY only concern is that the AllNurses community addresses this - pronto - and revokes the posting privledges of this individual. This "study" violates alot of federal and international codes of conduct for research.
  4. by   sunnygirl272
    nah...they're more concerned right now with equine well-being...
  5. by   sanakruz
    Let it go suzy- there's nothing said by this individual based in reality
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    NOW NOW Kiddies play nice in the sandbox or else another thread will be closed and thou shalt be banned......

    sheesh.
  7. by   Heather333
    Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes
    NOW NOW Kiddies play nice in the sandbox or else another thread will be closed and thou shalt be banned......

    sheesh.
    I hear ya! There a little thing called the first amendment: Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.




    Heather
  8. by   Q.
    How is calling out unethical research a grounds for being banned? I think a member who performs such research should be banned.
  9. by   ayemmeff
    ok,time for my 2 pennies.....

    Jay,I have been having a look through your past posts and I'm interested in how you've got time to be doing your *second* phd.That sure must be a lot of work...

    ...you've got your normal nursing training,a 40 hour week? All the "research" you've been doing here,and I dare say all over the internet.Normal day to day living and I imagine an exhausting full-on social life.

    What really interests me though is how you find time to set up a brand new Medical High Dependancy Unit.What a great job to get as a student nurse,bet everyone is so grateful where you work, to have a superhero on the team.

    02/05/03.."any ideas of equipment and other things I sohould(sic) include whilst I have the funding?"Jay-Z.

    Where is it you work,cos I could sure use a job where the funding is managed by the student nurses.

    Phd#1
    Phd#2
    you hold the funding of a new HDU
    your attitude
    What rubbish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Annie(with thanks to the sarcasm fairy)
    Last edit by ayemmeff on Feb 20, '03
  10. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Originally posted by Susy K
    How is calling out unethical research a grounds for being banned? I think a member who performs such research should be banned.
    suzy that was not necessarily directed at you. read the closed thread and you can see what pushes us over the line. Frankly, I think it was wrong to close that thread but it was done anyhow. this one is headed that way w/some of the things we are saying here. read what Karen said, and don't take my post personally, ok?
  11. by   Heather333
    I think it's absolutely stupid that if everything isn't all roses, then the thread gets closed. What's the point of having this BB if you can't say what you think.

    Heather
  12. by   Q.
    Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes
    suzy that was not necessarily directed at you. read the closed thread and you can see what pushes us over the line. Frankly, I think it was wrong to close that thread but it was done anyhow. this one is headed that way w/some of the things we are saying here. read what Karen said, and don't take my post personally, ok?
    I didn't take it personally Deb; I guess it was a rhetorical question. And I guess if I get banned because I call someone on the carpet regarding the treatment of us as subjects, and unethical research, so be it. At least I won't be a victim of such practices.
    We really don't know if this Jay Bird is telling the truth or not - do we? We can speculate, but do we really know? Anyway, I think it needs to be addressed. Hence the reason for this thread.
  13. by   ayemmeff
    Originally posted by Susy K
    We really don't know if this Jay Bird is telling the truth or not - do we? We can speculate, but do we really know?
    Suzy,
    He/she says on his/her profile that he/she is a "lead nurse" (never heard of this title,maybe some of the other Brits have??) but in posts refers to him/herself as a student nurse.

    He/she says that as a student nurse,he/she is managing the funding for a new HDU.I'm sorry,that is just not possible.

    Evidence of not telling the truth?
    The problem is once you notice inconsistencies like this,it is hard to take anything posted by this person as the truth.

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