RN bashing - page 4

I don't know about the rest of you RNs, but I'm sick of seeing all the posts where we are being bashed by those who aren't one. When I joined here, I actually thought it was a place for nurses to... Read More

  1. by   dianaeve
    hello:
    it's my first time to visit here!I would like to be a RN!

    But now I am going to be a nurse in Taiwan!I just graduate last week!

    I hope that I can be a RN about 3~4 years later!

    And nice to meet you!
  2. by   SCRN1
    Quote from dianaeve
    hello:
    it's my first time to visit here!I would like to be a RN!

    But now I am going to be a nurse in Taiwan!I just graduate last week!

    I hope that I can be a RN about 3~4 years later!

    And nice to meet you!
    Congratulations on your graduation & good luck in what you decide to do with your future!
  3. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from FNP2B
    good point LPN2B......but lest we forget old mother nature.....the lower you are on the food chain the more crap you have to put up with. If a zebra is tired of been hounded by lions. that zebra should pray for rencarnation:stone and if CNA's and LPN's are tired of all the crap and tired of being hounded by RN's then they should strive for rencarnation (education).



    "The only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary"
    Getting an education is not going to solve the hounding problems, receive a doctorate and you'll STILL have these sort of problems all around.

    I only strived for 'reincarnation' (so to speak) so i can eventually teach a nursing-related subject in college, not because i was sick of the crap, or tired of RN hounding (so to speak).

    It's evidently too much for everyone at once to come together in a mutual understanding that everyone is important. (I need to get that printed on a T-shirt)
    Last edit by Marie_LPN, RN on Jun 14, '04
  4. by   mattsmom81
    We are all important and we all need to remember to give each other deserved pats on the back. I make it a point every shift to thank a coworker who has assisted in getting us all through the shift together. Most appreciate a kind word and a thanks if it is sincere.

    Of course there's always a few LSE turkeys out there who just are determined NOT to like their coworkers and to be unhappy and resentful of others, even manipulative and vindictive...and I don't waste too much time on them. They need honest evaluations of the effect their atitudes have on their coworkers and if they can't work on that, they need to be shown the door, IMO..
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  5. by   FNP2B
    Quote from lpn2be2004
    getting an education is not going to solve the hounding problems, receive a doctorate and you'll still have these sort of problems all around.

    i only strived for 'reincarnation' (so to speak) so i can eventually teach a nursing-related subject in college, not because i was sick of the crap, or tired of rn hounding (so to speak).

    it's evidently too much for everyone at once to come together in a mutual understanding that everyone is important. (i need to get that printed on a t-shirt)
    i also believe that everyone is important, but i believe in levels of importance. the lpn that just changed the sheets for a patient is not as important (notice i said not as..they are still important) as the md that has to go into the family room to tell the family that the patient that the lpn has just changed the sheets for has just been diagnosed with malignant cancer.
    it also falls into the level of responsibility. i have said this before and i will say it again. rn's are not paid considerably more than lpn's because society has it out for lpn's. it is simply due to the fact that rn's have a greater level of education than lpn's and they have a greater level of responsibility than lpn's, so in reflection they are of greater importance...(not saying that lpn's are not important because they are and if you want to be technical so are the cafeteria personnel) every one in a hospitial is important. from the janitor to the ceo of the hospital, there are just different levels of importance.

    "its never to let to be what you might have been"
    Last edit by P_RN on Jun 14, '04 : Reason: only to put the final ] on the quote given.
  6. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from mattsmom81
    Of course there's always a few LSE turkeys out there who just are determined NOT to like their coworkers and to be unhappy and resentful of others, even manipulative and vindictive...and I don't waste too much time on them. They need honest evaluations of the effect their atitudes have on their coworkers and if they can't work on that, they need to be shown the door, IMO..
    .
    I completely agree, mattsmom.

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    I just get really sick and tired of people that find it necessary to preach about the obvious. Yes i know i'm not an RN, nor do i have an RN's education, but there's 2 things i'm already sick of 1) being asked when i'm going back for my RN and i haven't even giving any indication that i'm going back to school to anyone at work or home and 2) being REMINDED where my place is, or why i don't deserve the pay, etc. I KNOW this already, long before i even worked in healthcare, period. It makes for a crappy work environment, frankly i won't have the time to deal with the nursier-than-thou. Why i say nursier-than-thou? Because, even if it may not be the intent to come across that way, the attitude still comes across as that.
    Last edit by Marie_LPN, RN on Jun 14, '04
  7. by   Tweety
    Quote from LPN2Be2004
    What some nurses don't realize is that if you're ONE CNA assigned to 24 pts. on DAY shift (meaning baths, etc.), you're not a superwoman either, yet you're going to hear "well this is your job". That sucks, i dealt with that crap too much and i'm sure it's not over yet.

    What some NAs don't realize is that when a nurse is sitting down, he/she might be charting, entering assessments, etc. Although i worked with one that was on the phone to her house so much that i thought she might need a surgical procedure to help her get away from it.

    Point being, it goes both ways everywhere.

    But i'll remember as a nurse where i came from and that help (to the hard worker) is always appreciated.

    (And ***** the ones that make the who's-better debate a focus point in their life. There's more important things than that.)
    True, it does go both ways. I had a patient in need and was stuck being the monitor tech. The CNA was in another room doing a bath and the RN was drawing blood and had stuff stacked up that she was trying to do was running around while the CNA was in the room giving the bath. The CNA finished first and I mentioned the other patient needing a diaper change. The CNA mouthed off "I'm calling a meeting with the manager, couldn't you see I was busy, the nurse should have done that, just because y'all have RN behind your name doesn't mean you can't change a diaper.... blah blah blah.........." It gets tiresome...........
  8. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from Dixiedi
    Where did you see these posts. I missed them! Not saying they aren't there, I tend to look for threads that allow me the opportunity to encourage acceptance of the LPN as a major league player by all the staff. This is not RN bashing. This is system bashing. Hope you understand the difference!
    The "When in uniform" thread started out as RN bashing. Seems to me that RNs are held to a higher standard than anyone else. Not only have to be smart, competent, organized and a patient advocate, we have to meet our daily quota of smiles, too. Yet even in Nordstrum's, the sales associate is chatting away on her cellphone while she rings up my purchase. In the supermarket, they bark at me, and the drug store I have to hunt down a cashier to take my money because they're all haning out in the One-Hour Photo section gawking at someone's pictures. Come ON!
  9. by   RN92
    I recently left a job where the CNA's had chips on their shoulders about what they were or were not supposed to do. It gets SO OLD!!! I went to nursing school to get my degree - its not my fault that they chose to be CNA's. And Im not going to feel guilty because I studied my butt off for 2 yrs while working a full time job to get what I wanted. I find that CNA's and others that "bash" RN's for one reason or another is because of their own insecurities and beliefs that we look down on them. This is their problem and their feelings of inadequacy that presents itself as finding fault in others. (Does that make sense?) We all bash Doctors from time to time..this happens anyw here you look. Its all very childish.
  10. by   RN34TX
    Quote from LPN2Be2004
    I completely agree, mattsmom.

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    I just get really sick and tired of people that find it necessary to preach about the obvious. Yes i know i'm not an RN, nor do i have an RN's education, but there's 2 things i'm already sick of 1) being asked when i'm going back for my RN and i haven't even giving any indication that i'm going back to school to anyone at work or home and 2) being REMINDED where my place is, or why i don't deserve the pay, etc. I KNOW this already, long before i even worked in healthcare, period. It makes for a crappy work environment, frankly i won't have the time to deal with the nursier-than-thou. Why i say nursier-than-thou? Because, even if it may not be the intent to come across that way, the attitude still comes across as that.
    I'm right behind you LPN2Be2004!!
    When I was an LPN I too was tired of the "when are you going back to school" routine. I felt like saying "I'm so sorry that I'm just an LPN, when you RN's delegate tasks to me, please speak slowly and don't use too many fancy medical terms so I can understand." LOL!!
    Too many people love to talk about how much better they are because of their credentials. Actually showing it is a bigger challenge.
    Rather than argue about who is better, worth more, etc. why not ask yourself:
    How am I making my work environment a better place as a result of my credentials? What am I bringing to the table that others without my credentials can't? I'm not talking about hanging blood or writing care plans because that is simply a matter of hospital policy and the nurse practice act.
    LPN's (and others) cannot be fooled into believing that you are a better nurse simply because you have more education. This mentality leads to a lot of the hard feelings between LPN's and RN's, CNA's and LPN's, or ADN's and BSN's, etc.
    If the person you are working with has less training/education than you, are you setting a good example for them?
    If not, you may not be as valuable as you thought. You might be getting paid more, but that may be the hospitals problem for wasting a paycheck on someone who likes to talk about their status but doesn't do a lot with it.
    Example: The BSN RN who throws temper tantrums like a child at the nurses station regardless of how serious the situation is or who may be listening.
    What message does that send to the rest of the staff that is "below" your level?
    You don't always have to be liked because you may need to make some unpopular decisions at times, but if you are not at least respected and on some level admired for your years of hard work in school, what are you really worth?
  11. by   FNP2B
    example: the bsn rn who throws temper tantrums like a child at the nurses station regardless of how serious the situation is or who may be listening.
    what message does that send to the rest of the staff that is "below" your level?
    you don't always have to be liked because you may need to make some unpopular decisions at times, but if you are not at least respected and on some level admired for your years of hard work in school, what are you really worth?[/quote]



    50-60k anually!!!!!!


    "it's never to late to be what you might have been"
  12. by   dianaeve
    Quote from scrn1
    congratulations on your graduation & good luck in what you decide to do with your future!

    thank you!
    you are so nice!!
  13. by   RN34TX
    [QUOTE=FNP2B]Example: The BSN RN who throws temper tantrums like a child at the nurses station regardless of how serious the situation is or who may be listening.
    What message does that send to the rest of the staff that is "below" your level?
    You don't always have to be liked because you may need to make some unpopular decisions at times, but if you are not at least respected and on some level admired for your years of hard work in school, what are you really worth?[/QUOTE]



    50-60k anually!!!!!!



    That is true!! But I really wasn't talking about money when I was referring to someone's worth.
    Everyone wants the title, status, and "50-60k" but there are also responsibilities that go along with it, like setting a good example.
    I'm just as tired of the RN bashing as everyone else from jealous and burned out CNA's and LPN's.
    But I'm also tired of seeing RN's who are an embarrassment to the profession, which in turn fuels the fire of discontent from LPN's and CNA's.
    We need good LPN's and CNA's in this business and we need their respect. We're never going to get it with the "I'm the RN and I said so" mentality.
    I don't know about everyone else, but I wouldn't want to be a patient in a hospital being taken care of by CNA's and LPN's who get treated like crap by the RN's. I'm sure that their patient outcomes are nothing to brag about.

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