Public Health and birth control - page 6

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Can you be a public health nurse and not have to give out birth control (morning after pill especially)?... Read More


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    Quote from JayMar23
    Yeah, but if somebody claims that they "need" an abortion, (and nobody needs this) doctors and nurses should not be forced to participate in any way. I want to go into healthcare to help people.
    Someone may actually "need" an abortion, as their life may be seriously endangered by continuing a pregnancy. And if you want to go into healthcare to help people and you work in a field that involves pregnancy, you may need to "help" them obtain that abortion.

    There is an easy to avoid that conundrum. Do what I (and many nurses of conscience with issues regarding abortion) do.

    Do not work in a field that requires you deal with that issue.

    That way you will not be "forced" to participate , and the vulnerable pt will not be "forced" to deal with your personal issues.

    The other issue is that if you work for an agency/facility that provides services (like abortion) or facilitates (makes appointments, gives scripts, or provides procedures) abortion, how can you, with the beliefs that you are adamant about, justify earning a paycheck from that facility? Because if you work for them and receive money from them, some of that money is "abortion" money. Even if you did not deal with the abortion pt, you are still essentially a party to it by receiving money garnered from providing it.
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    Quote from JayMar23
    I would not be judgemental working with drug addicts or prostitutes.
    And drug addicts and prostitutes are more than likely going to need Plan B some time during their care...

    So you choose who you are going to be judgmental with? A judgment on making a judgment.
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    Quote from JayMar23
    You are so mean to me! I am not even making a big deal of anything right now what is your problem!

    Wow, I swear my neice said something almost identical to this the other day when she was in trouble for doing something she shouldn't have...what's ironic though is....SHE'S THREE!

    The above statement makes you sound like an immature, childish person....your posts are beginning to concrete that thought....
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    Quote from JayMar23
    Yeah I guess it depends on what someone's opinion of the morning after pill is, I consider it to be a very early abortion and not the same thing as using a condom or taking the birth control pill so I would not be comfortable supporting that in any way
    But it's not early abortion. Emergency contraceptive does NOT end already established pregnancies. It works by preventing ovulation and preventing implantation - same as regular BCPs
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    Quote from JayMar23
    I know that plan B can flush out conception, before it has attached to the uterine wall. I consider this the start of human life, but I guess technically you are not pregnant at this point but I belive this is the start of human life, and thats just personally where i draw the line, that is why i disagree with what others are saying about plan B.
    Do you disagree with regular birth control pill use? Because they work the EXACT SAME WAY.
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    Quote from JayMar23
    I know that plan B can flush out conception, before it has attached to the uterine wall. I consider this the start of human life, but I guess technically you are not pregnant at this point but I belive this is the start of human life, and thats just personally where i draw the line, that is why i disagree with what others are saying about plan B.
    Your "knowledge" of what Plan B is, and how it works, is just plain wrong.

    As someone stated (although not in the correct amounts), Plan B is no different than taking a larger dose of a regular birth control pill. In fact, if you google "emergency contraception," you can find sites that list how to use MANY different BCP brands AS emergency contraception (mine, for example, is 4 pills and then 4 more 12 hours later, or 8 pills all at once). It WILL NOT terminate an existing pregnancy, just like taking the pill daily won't.

    You can't have the "opinion" that Plan B is "early abortion," because it isn't. I can't have the opinion that the grass is red, because it is not. At least formulate a valid arguement before you choose to defend your views.
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    Quote from klone
    Do you disagree with regular birth control pill use? Because they work the EXACT SAME WAY.
    Because she is of the Catholic faith, probably so.
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    Quote from CrazierThanYou
    Because she is of the Catholic faith, probably so.
    In previous posts/threads started on this topic, the OP has stated she is very in favor of birth control pills.
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    Quote from cherrybreeze
    In previous posts/threads started on this topic, the OP has stated she is very in favor of birth control pills.
    Well then, she is inconsistent, based on ignorance.
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    Quote from cherrybreeze
    In previous posts/threads started on this topic, the OP has stated she is very in favor of birth control pills.
    So, what's the problem then? Plan B IS the BIRTH CONTROL PILL.
    sharpeimom likes this.


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