Poor nurses - page 4

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I have been at my facility for 2 years now. I am not complaining about the work--we all know that it is exhausting, patients never satisfied, endlessly busy BUT....now that I have gotten to know some of the nurses at my... Read More


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    Perhaps it's not my place, but I just wanted to point out that LPNs ARE nurses..
    I meant to say "registered" nurse. My bad.

    I am HARSH towards the managers because I used to work at Mcdonald's and they were TERRIBLE. Many were lazy and didn't do their jobs and left the crew to do almost all the work. Many were unprofessional and didn't serve their customers with speed and accuracy. I was yelled at once for trying to serve a customer right in front of over twenty people. That is why I strongly dislike the fast food industry. I also worked at another fast food restaraunt, and again, very unprofessional and for the little work they did, I don't think they should be paid more than a RN or LPN.
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    Are you aware that LPNs are nurses? I assume you mean RNs should be making double what an LPN makes, if so I find that really insulting
    No. What I meant was that LPNs should be paid more than a manager at McDonald's and an RN should be paid double what that manager makes, not double what the LPN makes, but I think RNs should be paid more than LPNs.

    Really? High school diploma or not advancing to manager of a fast food place requires time, brains and a lot of hard work.
    No...it doesn't. Not at all. Some of the people I worked with at McDonald's were complete fools and as a result, we started losing business. At 17, I know for a fact I could have ran that place with much more professionalism and dignity that most of those managers, and this is not coming from a place of arrogance.

    Also, an RN are oftentimes responsible for patients on their own. At McDonald's we would have SEVERAL managers there at once to share the oh so hard work at McDonald's, even on slower days. Both jobs *can* be stressful, but let's face it: A sick patient/dying baby is going to be far more stressful than running McDonald's.

    How about plumbers and electricians? Both highly skilled, licensed trades.
    Or Network Engineers? They need four+ years of college..
    Or loggers? Or commercial fisherman? Back breaking, seasonal labor.
    They are contributing a lot more than the manager who sells heart attack inducing foods.

    Are they all "less worthy" because they don't save lives?
    How about nurses who have never saved a life, should they get paid less?
    How about nurses that save a lot of lives but are otherwise worthless employees and everyone dreads working with them, should they make more or less?
    If a housekeeper spots a choking patient and calls for help should they get a raise?

    I think "saving lives" isn't much of a criteria for determining how much money someone should paid. Wages should be based on education, experience and effort.
    And that RN and LPN should still make more money than a McDonald's manager based on education alone. Many of those didn't have an Associate's, let alone a high school diploma (although a few did). As for experience and effort, that really is going to depend.
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    I can't believe there is a conflict on this point.
    To me is seems that a good worker,is a good worker and they should be paid accordingly, regardless of what field their in.

    Now although I'm positive it is not as hard as nursing. A High School Diploma does take brains, in my opinion, and I just graduated with honors from HS. Even as a honor and AP student/grad and a top ranking student I had to work my tail off to get there and I'm glad it's over with and I got my diploma. It takes a lot of will power and brains to figure out what classes to take that will help you in your unclear and ever changing future. There are so many people who wish they had their HS Diploma and don't ever get it.
    Last edit by PatMac10,RN on Jul 12, '10
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    Quote from ThePrincessBride
    But yes, I have also seen documentaries of McDonald's managers making 100k with very little education, and that is ridiculous.
    Why is that ridiculous? If they work hard, work long hours, and know their jobs inside and out, then they deserve to make that much.
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    Quote from ThePrincessBride
    I meant to say "registered" nurse. My bad.

    I am HARSH towards the managers because I used to work at Mcdonald's and they were TERRIBLE. Many were lazy and didn't do their jobs and left the crew to do almost all the work. Many were unprofessional and didn't serve their customers with speed and accuracy. I was yelled at once for trying to serve a customer right in front of over twenty people. That is why I strongly dislike the fast food industry. I also worked at another fast food restaraunt, and again, very unprofessional and for the little work they did, I don't think they should be paid more than a RN or LPN.

    Just had to pipe in here really quick. In my former life I was a fast food manager. The general and assistant managers are on a salary, I was working 50+ hours a week. Making around $32,000 a year, not very much per hour, with the possiblity of making a $70-$100 bonus if you met your speed, inventory, secret shops, and sales growth, at least in my area that is a far cry from a RN wage. As a CNA I make $17hr, but then I am registry.
    What do you think has prepared me to work in the ER, where you have to keep up with the fast pace and pt families complaining all the time

    So those managers who are making more than nurses in which you see on the documenties eaither, manager more than one store, like a district manager of own more than 1 store

    To the OP those salaries are really low is there anyway you could relocate to somewhere with a higher wage? and good for you for planing for the future
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    Do you work in a unionized environment? I live in Canada, I am at the top of basic RN scale and I make 40/hr (80/year) full time.
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    hmmmmm, it's so hard to read this thread without 1) agreeing that we're not paid properly for what we do, and 2) cursing loudly enough to wake up my children and the neighbors (sigh).
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    I agree if you look at the responsibility of the RN vs say someone in another field say Labron James salaries based on what you do are way out of wack
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    I can't believe my 16 yr old daughter who is still in high school earns more than some of your CNA's. She works at McDonalds after school and earns $11ph. We live in Australia though, so maybe that has something to do with it.
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    "I used to work at Mcdonald's and they were TERRIBLE. Many were lazy and didn't do their jobs"

    I'm quite sure such managers are not among the few making over $100,000.


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