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Nurse Calling In Scripts to Pharmacy Illegally - page 5

I have a question and a concern. There is a nurse where I work that calls in prescriptions to the local pharmacies for anyone that wants one. Not for narcotics or anything like that but if someone... Read More

  1. Visit  TraceyMarino profile page
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    I agree with the above pp's. You have to notify someone, the doctor, the pharmacy, the BON. I am concerned that this nurse has dragged you into her web by calling in a script for you....now she knows you cannot say anything.

    I cannot believe a lawyer of any kind would advise you to avoid saying anything. Ran this scenario by a lawyer friend of mine last night (does criminal law)---he stated if you know someone is breaking the law, you are required to do something. Otherwise you are an accessory, or worse, guilty of collusion, in that you have benefited from her lawbreaking by her calling a script in for you.

    You don't know for a fact she is not calling in narcotics for herself or others. Where I live, this is a felony. You need to walk, not run to the pharmacy who filled your script, the BON, or better yet, local law enforcement. They will know how to proceed, and hopefully, you will be off the hook by reporting this very illegal issue.

    Best of luck with this! Bad situation!!!
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  2. Visit  jadelpn profile page
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    Quote from TraceyMarino
    I agree with the above pp's. You have to notify someone, the doctor, the pharmacy, the BON. I am concerned that this nurse has dragged you into her web by calling in a script for you....now she knows you cannot say anything.

    I cannot believe a lawyer of any kind would advise you to avoid saying anything. Ran this scenario by a lawyer friend of mine last night (does criminal law)---he stated if you know someone is breaking the law, you are required to do something. Otherwise you are an accessory, or worse, guilty of collusion, in that you have benefited from her lawbreaking by her calling a script in for you.

    You don't know for a fact she is not calling in narcotics for herself or others. Where I live, this is a felony. You need to walk, not run to the pharmacy who filled your script, the BON, or better yet, local law enforcement. They will know how to proceed, and hopefully, you will be off the hook by reporting this very illegal issue.

    Best of luck with this! Bad situation!!!
    AMEN.
  3. Visit  klone profile page
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    Quote from BrandonLPN
    Why would a doctor do this? Why would he just fill out random scripts for random people of some nurse friend of his? It doesn't seem like these people are paying him for these illicit prescriptions. What's in it for him?
    He's not filling out paper scrips. She's calling them into pharmacies on his behalf. When I worked in OB at a small community hospital, the nursing staff would do that, for things like antibiotics. Of course, we would only do that after consulting with the physician by phone and getting a telephone order.
  4. Visit  NRSKarenRN profile page
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    OP should have RX bag, med bottle in her possession which is all the proof she needs to report to Pharmacy director requesting investigation. If confimed by pharmacy RX called in by RN under doc she never saw, then report to state BON should be made.
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Mar 4, '13
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  5. Visit  HouTx profile page
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    Quote from RNdynamic
    I say leave it alone. It sounds like this is the culture of the workplace. Let the nurse and the doctor work it out between themselves, without interfering in their relationship. Nurses fill out paperwork for doctors all of the time, and then just have the MD sign it. At our hospital, we fill out restraint order forms for them and just bring it to them to sign; because it's expected. Just leave it alone.

    And you are not legally responsible to report this either. Mandatory reporting applies in cases of elder abuse, child abuse, etc.

    OMG - are you licensed? How can you reconcile this with ignoring an illegal act? In TX, our nurse practice act requires us to report violations of our Nurse Practice Act as well as unsafe/illegal acts of other medical professionals.
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  6. Visit  RNsRWe profile page
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    Quote from Kunzieo
    Good luck getting Walmart to take it back though. They would have to throw them away, couldn't return them to stock and resell them, because you could have stores them improperly or tampered with them. I worked as a pharmacy tech for 12 years for 3 different pharmacies before I was an RN. I can count on 1 hand the number of Rxs we took back in those 12 years. People would try to return them, but mostly understood why we couldn't take them back after we explained.
    Doesn't matter if they throw it away, burn them, whatever.....I'd bet they WOULD take it back, considering the person would be holding a bag that shows that a prescription was filled--AND picked up--by the same person, one who had no authority to call IN that prescription and then buy it herself--in someone else's name.

    No, I'd be willing to bet that a manager would be willing to listen to THAT story.

    If they take it back, a return slip for the meds would be issued---the OP should of course have a photocopy of the original bag/receipt/pharm slip. If they DON'T, well she tried and will have the name of the manager that told her "no".
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  7. Visit  CrunchRN profile page
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    She has been there 24 years? The nurse manager is well aware of what is going on? Then I would just get away from the situation. I would probably report it to the BON, but you may face retaliation if you do that. I do not think it is on you to fix this. It is the nurse managers job. And I don't think you should sacrifice your future on a long tolerated situation like this/ That is admins job.
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  8. Visit  RNdynamic profile page
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    Quote from HouTx
    OMG - are you licensed? How can you reconcile this with ignoring an illegal act? In TX, our nurse practice act requires us to report violations of our Nurse Practice Act as well as unsafe/illegal acts of other medical professionals.
    Yes, I am a licensed, working RN in an acute care setting. I think that reporting this is folly.
  9. Visit  roser13 profile page
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    Quote from RNdynamic
    Yes, I am a licensed, working RN in an acute care setting. I think that reporting this is folly.
    I think ignoring it is an even bigger folly, although I'm guessing that OP is following the "turn a blind eye" advice since he/she has not come back.

    Ignoring this issue leads to 2 likely scenarios:

    1. Dr. Nurse gets caught. OP turns up in the investigation of all past scripts called into pharmacy by Dr. whoever. OP loses license for complicity or failure to report.

    2. Someone suffers as a result of Dr. Nurse practicing without a license. #1 then comes into play.

    And 1 unlikely scenario: nothing happens. Highly unlikely.

    I think a small-town mentality plays a huge role in this situation. While everyone involved KNOWS how criminal the scenario is, everyone's either afraid for their future employment or afraid of Dr. Nurse.

    Such a shame. And such a crime.
  10. Visit  Kunzieo profile page
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    Quote from RNsRWe

    Doesn't matter if they throw it away, burn them, whatever.....I'd bet they WOULD take it back, considering the person would be holding a bag that shows that a prescription was filled--AND picked up--by the same person, one who had no authority to call IN that prescription and then buy it herself--in someone else's name.

    No, I'd be willing to bet that a manager would be willing to listen to THAT story.

    If they take it back, a return slip for the meds would be issued---the OP should of course have a photocopy of the original bag/receipt/pharm slip. If they DON'T, well she tried and will have the name of the manager that told her "no".
    Yeah. It would be nice if that's how it really worked.

    Pharmacies don't (usually) call the police, BON, AMA, NPI licensing board or the DEA. What they MAY do if they are REALLY willing to get involved in this is notify the MD office that a customer is making allegations of fraud. That is the sole responsibility of the pharmacy. They report it to the physician's office, and it is then up to the MD to pursue charges/investigations.

    Call it sad or whatever you will- but I bet that if she goes back to Walmart-

    1. They will flag her file if she wants so only she can pick up RXs.
    2. If she stands and argues long enough, they'll refund her $4.
    3. They'll toss the Bactrim and then stand around talking about the crazy lady that just came in with a bunch of conspiracy theories about some "out of control nurse."
    4. They will also flag her file with a note that says something along the lines of "Customer very particular and argumentative about her medication. Walk on eggshells."

    If you get a very young/eager new grad pharmacist- you'll have a better chance of him at least calling the physician. :/
  11. Visit  RNsRWe profile page
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    Quote from Kunzieo
    Yeah. It would be nice if that's how it really worked.

    Pharmacies don't (usually) call .....

    edited for brevity of post......

    If you get a very young/eager new grad pharmacist- you'll have a better chance of him at least calling the physician. :/
    Well, you're probably right on those counts. I haven't worked from the pharmacy end of things, so I don't know that it's any different. Still, my sense of justice makes me want to go in there with the bag and bottle and at least say SOMETHING about the error. Perhaps naivete on my part that the right thing might be done, but hey....I can dream!
  12. Visit  Kunzieo profile page
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    Yes, and as others said- it would be interesting to know if that nurse picked up any other scrips in the OP's name! At the very least- let Walmart know you don't want anyone but yourself picking up RXs.

    Secondly- talk to the doctor. He's the one that would have to do something about the situation, ultimately, since she's essentially "forging" RXs in his name. The nurse manager, etc has no stake in this. If the MD is made aware and chooses not to do anything- well, I guess that's his problem.
  13. Visit  tiroka03 profile page
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    I would be afraid too. Afraid enough to contact a lawyer. I would also be afraid enough to contact the next up in line, and anyone else you can think of in management. Keep copies, and make sure you leave a paper trail.

    I would start documenting, and blowing every whistle you have. Don't wait.

    That nurse by ordering a drug for you, I believe was meant to silence you. Then she went to the drug store and picked up the drug? That is pretending to be you as well. I would go to that drug store and talk with management as well. If this or anything else goes to court, they will eventually find you as well. Make sure the drug store knows what happened as well.

    Write to your pastor, write to anyone, and keep copies. Don't hide, you didn't do anything wrong.

    Get yourself a long distance away from her, don't even get in close proximity to she if you can help it. Make sure people aren't thinking that you and her are friends. Don't let her craziness rub off on you.
    Last edit by tiroka03 on Mar 4, '13

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