NO MORE SUZY K !!!!!!!

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    WHO THINKS SUZY K NEEDS TO GET OVER HERSELF?????IT IS NURSES LIKE YOU THAT GIVE US ALL A BAD NAME! WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING INTELLIGENT TO SAY ON THIS INTELLIGENT BOARD MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE BESIDES C.LO WILL LISTEN BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE OUT NUMBERED!!!IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS INSECURE ABOUT YOUR NURSING ABILITIES AND OBVIOUSLY FEEL THREATENED, AND OBVIOUSLY DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!YOU PUT REALNURSEALSO/LPN AND IRIS IN THE ONLY POSITION THEY COULD CHOOSE AND THAT WAS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, AND THEREFORE HAVE LEFT ME NO CHOICE BUT TO PUT YOU IN YOUR PLACE AND THAT IS 1.THERE ARE LPNS ALL OVER THE STATES,2.I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF AN LPN NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND A JOB,3.MAYBE IN YOUR LITTLE NECK OF THE WOODS THEY MIGHT NOT RESPECT LPNS AS MUCH AS OTHER PLACES BUT HERE IN OKLAHOMA AND MANY OTHER STATES WE ARE HIGHLY RESPECTED AND TREATED NO DIFFERENTLY THAN THE RNS!4. AS FAR AS I KNOW NURSING JOBS ALSO GO BY EXPERIENCE,QUALIFICATIONS,INTELLIGENCE,COMMON SENCE,ABILITY TO WORK WELL WITH OTHERS,ECT..NOT JUST RN VS LPN. 5.ALSO JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE AN RN DOESNT MEAN YOU DO "A LITTLE BIT MORE " AND FOR THE MONEY ISSUE I MAKE PLENTY OF IT !!!I HAVE STARTED JUST AS MANY IVS NEONATES TO ADULTS, RAN JUST AS MANY CODES, PUSHED AS MANY MEDS,AND TAKEN JUST AS MUCH CRAP FROM THE DOCTORS AS ANY RN,I HAVE ALSO SAVED A BUTT OR 2 AND HAVE HAD MINE SAVED A TIME OR 2, ITS CALLED TEAM WORK!!!!THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND YOU IS IM A BETTER PERSON FOR IT AND YOU HAVENT LEARNED ANYTHING..I HAVE WORKED ER FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS 12 HOUR SHIFTS 4 DAYS A WEEK AND WHEN IM NOT THERE I AM AT MY OTHER JOB WORKING L&D,POSTPARTUM,PEDS,MS,POSTOP AND ICU BECAUSE THE LPNS ARE TRAINED IN ALL AREAS JUST LIKE THE RNS, SO LET ME ASSURE YOU THERE ARE PLENTY OF JOBS IN MY "LITTLE PART OF THE WORLD" AS YOU PUT IT WITH PLENTY OF AWESOME RNS AND LPNS TO WORK BESIDE NOT ABOVE OR BELOW..SO IN MY LAST WORDS WHEN YOU GET SOMEMORE EXPERIENCE AND INTELLEGENCE I MIGHT WASTE SOMEMORE OF MY TIME ON YOU UNTIL THEN GET OVER YOURSELF!!!!! SIGNED 1 HARD WORKING TIRED OF LISTENING TO SUSY K ER NURSE!!!!!!!!I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL THE AWESOME RNS AND LPNS OUT THERE THAT ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AND KNOW HOW TO WORK AS A TEAM TO GET THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB DONE AND THAT IS TO GIVE THE BEST PT CARE POSS..THANKYOU

    [This message has been edited by theboss (edited March 27, 2001).]
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    Originally posted by theboss:
    WHO THINKS SUZY K NEEDS TO GET OVER HERSELF?????IT IS NURSES LIKE YOU THAT GIVE US ALL A BAD NAME! WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING INTELLIGENT TO SAY ON THIS INTELLIGENT BOARD MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE BESIDES C.LO WILL LISTEN BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE OUT NUMBERED!!!IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS INSECURE ABOUT YOUR NURSING ABILITIES AND OBVIOUSLY FEEL THREATENED, AND OBVIOUSLY DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!YOU PUT REALNURSEALSO/LPN AND IRIS IN THE ONLY POSITION THEY COULD CHOOSE AND THAT WAS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, AND THEREFORE HAVE LEFT ME NO CHOICE BUT TO PUT YOU IN YOUR PLACE AND THAT IS 1.THERE ARE LPNS ALL OVER THE STATES,2.I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF AN LPN NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND A JOB,3.MAYBE IN YOUR LITTLE NECK OF THE WOODS THEY MIGHT NOT RESPECT LPNS AS MUCH AS OTHER PLACES BUT HERE IN OKLAHOMA AND MANY OTHER STATES WE ARE HIGHLY RESPECTED AND TREATED NO DIFFERENTLY THAN THE RNS!4. AS FAR AS I KNOW NURSING JOBS ALSO GO BY EXPERIENCE,QUALIFICATIONS,INTELLIGENCE,COMMON SENCE,ABILITY TO WORK WELL WITH OTHERS,ECT..NOT JUST RN VS LPN. 5.ALSO JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE AN RN DOESNT MEAN YOU DO "A LITTLE BIT MORE " AND FOR THE MONEY ISSUE I MAKE PLENTY OF IT !!!I HAVE STARTED JUST AS MANY IVS NEONATES TO ADULTS, RAN JUST AS MANY CODES, PUSHED AS MANY MEDS,AND TAKEN JUST AS MUCH CRAP FROM THE DOCTORS AS ANY RN,I HAVE ALSO SAVED A BUTT OR 2 AND HAVE HAD MINE SAVED A TIME OR 2, ITS CALLED TEAM WORK!!!!THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND YOU IS IM A BETTER PERSON FOR IT AND YOU HAVENT LEARNED ANYTHING..I HAVE WORKED ER FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS 12 HOUR SHIFTS 4 DAYS A WEEK AND WHEN IM NOT THERE I AM AT MY OTHER JOB WORKING L&D,POSTPARTUM,PEDS,MS,POSTOP AND ICU BECAUSE THE LPNS ARE TRAINED IN ALL AREAS JUST LIKE THE RNS, SO LET ME ASSURE YOU THERE ARE PLENTY OF JOBS IN MY "LITTLE PART OF THE WORLD" AS YOU PUT IT WITH PLENTY OF AWESOME RNS AND LPNS TO WORK BESIDE NOT ABOVE OR BELOW..SO IN MY LAST WORDS WHEN YOU GET SOMEMORE EXPERIENCE AND INTELLEGENCE I MIGHT WASTE SOMEMORE OF MY TIME ON YOU UNTIL THEN GET OVER YOURSELF!!!!! SIGNED 1 HARD WORKING TIRED OF LISTENING TO SUSY K ER NURSE!!!!!!!!I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL THE AWESOME RNS AND LPNS OUT THERE THAT ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AND KNOW HOW TO WORK AS A TEAM TO GET THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB DONE AND THAT IS TO GIVE THE BEST PT CARE POSS..THANKYOU

    [This message has been edited by theboss (edited March 27, 2001).]
    You said it well BOSS. I am glad that you spoke up. I was very angered, or should I say hurt by that post of Suzy. I haven't been at this long, but i guarentee you one thing. I love my job. Its what I wanted to do. The medical field would be a sorry place if it wasn't for us LPNs. As the younger ones say "You go girl" Signed another hard working LPN
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    Well said "the boss". You sound like a very well rounded LPN. Not sure my area offers all those options to LPN's but am glad so many opportunities exist in the nursing field. I wish we all could stand together as a team as well as we seem to be able to point fingers and accusations. Let's help each other - if a co-worker appears to be lacking in a skill - please offer him/her your expertise in a nice manner. By the way, I love this forum. From another LPN
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    To theboss,
    you are very lucky to be able to work in the hospital as you do. I wish people around here where I live would be open-minded to LPNs in the hospital. we are just as capable if not, some are more capable than RNs. Unfortunately, the only position an LPN can get here in the hosp. is in geropsych. if that. otherwise, you work in nursing homes if that's what you prefer. I don't mind it but I do want to work in a hospital, but until I pass my RN boards, geriatrics is where I am for now.
    And to "theboss", good for you to speak up...


    [This message has been edited by hannabear1 (edited March 27, 2001).]
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    I hadn't been able to get on the net for several days, so the first thing i did was check out allnurses. I saw this post and got very confused, so I searched to find the original message from Suzy K - now I'm rally confused. Where is all the anger coming from? It seems to me that Suzy K asked a logical and neutral question and a few people flipped out. Why? Do some of you need a vacation or what?
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    Y'all gotta chill. Take a step back and a deep breath before you go flying off the handle. Suzy K showed no maliciousness in her post, she was simply asking a question
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    I'm sure to many of you this anger is confusing. The anger did not start with Suzy K's initial question ... it started with C.LO's reply to that question followed by Suzy K's concurring reply. I love debates! But, debates do not equal attacks.
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    I would really like to see this stop. I tried to play peacemaker on another thread where something similar was happening and was roundly ignored while the vitriol continued to spew. It appeared that people were LOOKING for a reason to be offended and found insult where none seemed to be intended.

    Personal attacks (like telling another poster to go away, which I've seen done by several people to fellow posters in various threads lately) are unwarranted and unprofessional. I stopped reading the BB's at MSN Slate because about 75% of the posts were just angry, knee-jerk reactions or crude name-calling insults in response to something someone else said. This is not an equivalent substitute for intelligent debate and discussion. It is BORING. We are educated professionals and we are better than that.

    I understand that people come here to vent frustrations, which is great. Just don't do it by trashing your fellow posters. Remember that tone of voice, inflection, etc. don't come through in e-mail and therefore some of the meaning is lost. If you have questions as to a fellow poster's meaning or intent, ask. Give him/her the benefit of the doubt and the opportunity to respond before going on the defensive.

    Also--theboss? Please, PLEASE, don't post in all caps. My eyes are bleeding.

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread. :-)

    [This message has been edited by Stargazer (edited March 27, 2001).]
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    Originally posted by theboss:
    WHO THINKS SUZY K NEEDS TO GET OVER HERSELF?????IT IS NURSES LIKE YOU THAT GIVE US ALL A BAD NAME! WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING INTELLIGENT TO SAY ON THIS INTELLIGENT BOARD MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE BESIDES C.LO WILL LISTEN BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE OUT NUMBERED!!!IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS INSECURE ABOUT YOUR NURSING ABILITIES AND OBVIOUSLY FEEL THREATENED, AND OBVIOUSLY DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!YOU PUT REALNURSEALSO/LPN AND IRIS IN THE ONLY POSITION THEY COULD CHOOSE AND THAT WAS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, AND THEREFORE HAVE LEFT ME NO CHOICE BUT TO PUT YOU IN YOUR PLACE AND THAT IS 1.THERE ARE LPNS ALL OVER THE STATES,2.I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF AN LPN NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND A JOB,3.MAYBE IN YOUR LITTLE NECK OF THE WOODS THEY MIGHT NOT RESPECT LPNS AS MUCH AS OTHER PLACES BUT HERE IN OKLAHOMA AND MANY OTHER STATES WE ARE HIGHLY RESPECTED AND TREATED NO DIFFERENTLY THAN THE RNS!4. AS FAR AS I KNOW NURSING JOBS ALSO GO BY EXPERIENCE,QUALIFICATIONS,INTELLIGENCE,COMMON SENCE,ABILITY TO WORK WELL WITH OTHERS,ECT..NOT JUST RN VS LPN. 5.ALSO JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE AN RN DOESNT MEAN YOU DO "A LITTLE BIT MORE " AND FOR THE MONEY ISSUE I MAKE PLENTY OF IT !!!I HAVE STARTED JUST AS MANY IVS NEONATES TO ADULTS, RAN JUST AS MANY CODES, PUSHED AS MANY MEDS,AND TAKEN JUST AS MUCH CRAP FROM THE DOCTORS AS ANY RN,I HAVE ALSO SAVED A BUTT OR 2 AND HAVE HAD MINE SAVED A TIME OR 2, ITS CALLED TEAM WORK!!!!THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND YOU IS IM A BETTER PERSON FOR IT AND YOU HAVENT LEARNED ANYTHING..I HAVE WORKED ER FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS 12 HOUR SHIFTS 4 DAYS A WEEK AND WHEN IM NOT THERE I AM AT MY OTHER JOB WORKING L&D,POSTPARTUM,PEDS,MS,POSTOP AND ICU BECAUSE THE LPNS ARE TRAINED IN ALL AREAS JUST LIKE THE RNS, SO LET ME ASSURE YOU THERE ARE PLENTY OF JOBS IN MY "LITTLE PART OF THE WORLD" AS YOU PUT IT WITH PLENTY OF AWESOME RNS AND LPNS TO WORK BESIDE NOT ABOVE OR BELOW..SO IN MY LAST WORDS WHEN YOU GET SOMEMORE EXPERIENCE AND INTELLEGENCE I MIGHT WASTE SOMEMORE OF MY TIME ON YOU UNTIL THEN GET OVER YOURSELF!!!!! SIGNED 1 HARD WORKING TIRED OF LISTENING TO SUSY K ER NURSE!!!!!!!!I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL THE AWESOME RNS AND LPNS OUT THERE THAT ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AND KNOW HOW TO WORK AS A TEAM TO GET THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB DONE AND THAT IS TO GIVE THE BEST PT CARE POSS..THANKYOU

    [This message has been edited by theboss (edited March 27, 2001).]
    I am not trying to add fuel to a fire here but would honestly like to know-where can an LPN push any IV meds? Not in our scope of practice the last time I checked.I can certainly start IV's-hang certain solutions and piggies.But run a code? If you mean hold that clipboard with one eye on the clock-well I have done that,too.(After I moved the furniture and family out of the way)Do you actually decide which meds to push? Call for the paddles? I am in southeastern PA-seems like I have missed out a lot...

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    Sunshine pointed out that the anger started with CLO's response to my question, not with me, but apparently some people are confused and thus confused everyone else. Also, the anger after CLO's post was directly personally to me by Iris. It seemed to me that she was the one who started this hostility. Was I not entitled to speak up? She blantantly insulted me for no apparent reason. I think my response to her was justified. I don't think "the boss's" response was well put and she wasn't standing up for herself. Who was she defending herself to? Me?? Even in my response to her I asked respectfully why this and why that. Wow. I NEVER said anything negative about LPNs. I asked my questions based on experience. Some people just don't get it. Oh well, how sad for them. Maybe one day they will get it.

    By the way, I'm not an ER nurse. I'm a Labor and Delivery nurse.

    [This message has been edited by Susy K (edited March 27, 2001).]

    [This message has been edited by Susy K (edited March 27, 2001).]


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