New nurses wanted. - page 4
I have just read a post in a Nursing Specialties forum on Staff Development that makes reference to the need to recognize and nurture new nurses because the nursing-eat-their-young attitude is so widespread. I went to respond to... Read More
- 10Feb 14, '13 by CherylRNBSNQuote from nisteberDear Brand New Nurse,Are you kidding me? A Nicki Minaj quote? That is awful haha. But in all seriousness, I think the older ******* nurses only discourage the new ones because it makes them feel better. If they are still on the floor at age whatever 50 or 60. They have probably applied and not gotten a few management positions. Those are my thoughts after 5 months in as a new grad on a med surg floor.
Allow me to address your ill-conceived comment.
I will be 48 in one month. I have 7yrs. med surg experience and 6 yrs. critical care experience.
I MANAGED a medical practice for 2 yrs.
But after staying home to raise children (much like you, child), I returned to floor nursing after a 12 yr absence d/t divorce.
I am VERY happily back at work on the floor. And doing very well, thanks to my years of experience. Can you imagine returning to work after a 12 yr. hiatus?
Will I remain on the floor forever? No. I will return to school for post grad work and move on. But for now, I am VERY thankful for the opportunity to resume my CAREER. I ENJOY nursing, I enjoy my patients, and I enjoy colleagues of ALL ages.
Your comment about being "on the floor at age whatever 50 or 60" is extremely arrogant, ignorant, and ill informed. It smacks of ***entitlement***. My dear, you are precisely why new grads get a bad rap!
- 3Feb 15, '13 by SarahLeeRNQuote from GrnTeaAMEN. And hallelujah for those nurses. I personally have known quite a few that have helped me. Amazing, amazing nurses. Great article!. There is ample evidence of older nurses here and at work supporting, teaching, and mentoring younger ones, on their own time, for free, late at night when they ought to be in bed, precisely because they want to nurture new nurses.
- 3Feb 15, '13 by ladybug28Age doesn't matter, at the end of the day it is all about attitude. Nowadays you have ladies and gentleman going back to get their nursing degrees later in life, so what you think might be an experienced nurse might be a fresh new nurse! Can't count on age to determine experience. Also, it is ignorant to say that people that are 50 are on the floor because they didn't get management positions. Here are a few examples I can tell you about. My DON (10 years as a DON mind you) - is going to work at the ER - cause she says she misses direct patient care - she is 47 years old. So is she on the floor cause she didnt get the managment position? the unit manager that was my teammate is 65 years old, she could retire if she wanted - the most knowledgeable women you would meet, she was like Macgiver, had to come back to nursing after a divorce, I asked her about why she wasn't in higher management (she could have been a DON or more of a desk job) she said, "I like patients, and thats it, I have enough paperwork as it is, now it is all about the money", she also told me she was not going to retire for a while maybe just cut a few hours (which for her meant work about 60...she just loves to work she told me), my mentor Mary 55 years of age, told me "they are going to get me out of my floor in a coffin" joking that this was her ideal job, and did not want to go anywhere else. She has been a manager at other places. So to say that older people are there cause they weren't any better is nothing but an idiotic comment, that has no foundation. Quite the opposite in my experience, a lot of them just love good ole' nursing that involves taking care of the patient and nothing else. They wanna do real nursing, not a bunch of paperwork. I was the youngest employee and loved my cooworkers, we had a good time working, and sometimes they gave me some "tough love" cause I needed to learn, and it always came from a good place. Also sometimes you gotta roll with the punches. At any job you are going to have to climb your way up and make your place. Nobody is going to hand you anything. I would like to thank all my "older" mentors, to me you were a blessing, and I remember each one of them!
- 5Feb 15, '13 by anotheronewell i work with many new grads . old and young ones . (20s to 50s). the last batch of all ages expects soooo much hand holding and only easy assignments. getting 2 admissions is bullying and crying to manager. makes me sick. everyone routinely takes 2-3 admissions. cant handle it, then quit. i have had it with getting dumped on because of the cry babies. fine , if i must pick up all the trainwrecks and admits i should be paid more than a dollar than the new grads!!!!!if you nicely explain or try to teach something then it is whining about "treating them like idiots". i have saved so many pts from poor assessment and prioritization skills only to get ******* at for not doing more of their work or telling them about it. if someone told me , " hey this pts hgb is 7.2 at 1800 draw, in the morning it was 8.7,maybe you should let the md know" i wouldn't go crying to management about that . i would be thankful but embarassed that someone else caught it . ( when in charge or awaiting report). everyone is a winner and gets a ribbon!!!!!!!Last edit by Esme12 on Feb 15, '13 : Reason: TOS/profanity/use of letters and symbols
- 6Feb 15, '13 by BrandonLPNQuote from KarenfRNYeah, 99% of the time "dream jobs" are just that..... dreams. It's nice to have goals, but I can't tell you how sick I am of new grad RNs telling me they're only here (in LTC) because no one else is hiring and once they got a year under their belt, they're outta here. If you're too stuck up to get down and dirty and learn during your "tour" in LTC, that year of experience won't be worth much. Frankly, most the new nurses who start with this sort of a chip on their shoulder are all talk anyway.... I'm not holding my breath waiting for such people's careers to blossom.....I roll my eyes every time I see a post about someone's "dream job". How can you know it's your dream job when you haven't even worked one day yet? And, if it turns out you don't like it, is it then your "nightmare job"? I've seen quite a few posts on here by people who've gotten their (perceived) dream job & ended up hating the specialty/area. Apparently, then, your dreams are fantasy & not based in reality. Stop worrying about getting your dream job & just absorb all the knowledge you can from the more seasoned nurses in whatever area you're working.
- 1Feb 15, '13 by ladyelphI am one of those 'young' (40) nurses, just qualified and setting out on my new career. I have a fantastic preceptor who is more knowledgeable than I can ever hope to be. ALL the 'old' nurses on the unit have been unbelievably supportive and willing to help a newbie. I would love to shout from the rooftops how great they all are, but have made do with ensuring the Matron knows at every opportunity what a fantastic team she has.
Thank you to all the 'oldies' out there that are willing to help a newly qualified member of staff.
- 5Feb 15, '13 by opdahlamber, ADN, RNGrnTea, can I move to where ever it is you live and come work with you? Just for a while..I would accept a day..PLEASE!!! Had a class full of sophomore RN students write article critiques about bullying in nursing. I wanted to scream. Your insight is perfect and absolutely true. The sense of entitlement that most of my classmates have is crazy! Complaints from "they don't round our percentages" to "but thats too early to go to clinicals". Are you kidding me?! I am sorry, so very sorry that you and all other seasoned, experienced, healthcare professionals have to deal with whiny, bratty, unable to take criticism, new grad "nurses". I hope I never act like that and if I do, I hope someone points it out quick, fast, and in a hurry. Thank you for pointing out what I'm doing wrong, how else am I to know? Don't get what is so hard about that response. Maybe these girls don't get spanked enough as children or taught to respect their elders. So thanks for being the elder and thanks for finally saying this. You truly rock.
(I have to say it too...5 months...wow )
- 7Feb 15, '13 by Spidey's mom, ADN, BSN, RN GuideThank you, GrnTea, for your perspective on this myth of nurses eating their young. It has driven me crazy for 15 years, when I became a nurse at age 40.
There are many threads here on AN addressing this issue but you brought some more clarity to it. You can't blast an entire profession for the behavior of a few.
There are meanspririted and rude people in all walks of life and of course we pay more attention to the negative than the positive. Think about newspapers - they sell more if they go with the scary and negative type of story than the sunshine enfused story about compassion.
Of course there is bad behavior in some instances but it doesn't mean ALL nurses do this.
Don't lump us all together.
- 0Feb 15, '13 by PatMac10,RNQuote from KarenfRNTo me a dream job doesn't require you to have experience to desire it. That's why it's called a "Dream" job. It the same principle to someone who dreams of going to Disney World one day. They may have never been, but in there head they imagine it would be an enjoyable place that that they would like to go to. I am on my way to getting my dream job on the CVICU. I chose to do my preceptorship hours there and am more excited now, than ever, to work there.I roll my eyes every time I see a post about someone's "dream job". How can you know it's your dream job when you haven't even worked one day yet? And, if it turns out you don't like it, is it then your "nightmare job"? I've seen quite a few posts on here by people who've gotten their (perceived) dream job & ended up hating the specialty/area. Apparently, then, your dreams are fantasy & not based in reality. Stop worrying about getting your dream job & just absorb all the knowledge you can from the more seasoned nurses in whatever area you're working.
The weird dream in this case means more so goal or aspiration, and I encourage all to reasonably follow their goals and aspirations, no matter how intimidating or difficult they may send. Some may but get their dream job right out of school, for various reasons. However that doesn't mean they won't find it later.
I would think that as you gain more experience in nursing, just as you grow and become experienced, your tastes just change. As you grow with experience your dreams may become more refined or evolve into something totally different.
Never forget about your dreams or dream job, but don't let it deter you from operating in a functional capacity at your current job or from finding legit smite employment.