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As nurses why do you guys think that medications only treat the symptoms of a disease instead of curing the disease? Is it because no one has come up any cures yet? (:rolleyes:) Or do you guys think it's a conspiracy?

I for one think it's a conspiracy and that's what I'm writing a paper on. Just wanted to know how you all felt. Thanks.

Side note: OMG just noticed I put "and" instead of "an" in my title. Disregard Please!

Well I'm grateful for everyone's opinion. Everyone that I work with seems to partially or fully agree with what I say and I work with nurses even though I'm not one myself yet.

Well of course they mostly agree with you. They work with you. They're looking you in the face, don't want to hurt your feelings, don't want to make you angry, don't want to make you feel bad, etc. They are there with you. We, on the other hand, are not. We'll say what we think.

Maybe some of you guys are right but contrary to popular belief the government does'nt want the american people to know everything that goes on behind the doors of "BIG BUSINESS".

That is not contrary to what anybody thinks. Why would you believe we think otherwise?

Ignorance is Not Bliss.

As long as you're throwing that around, I have to ask: do you know the actual quotation?

And, for the poster who said he/she will like to read my paper I will gladly upload to the forum for everyone to see and make their own judgments.

We will. Hope you're ready :)

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LOL @ INurseUK

But if you seriously think about it. When has the US Gov't really tried to do ANYTHING for ANYBODY that was honestly good? Everything that they do is to fatten their pockets

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.

Ebony, I will guess that the Anatomy class that you took in MA school will seem like Kindergarten after you take your A&P semesters for nursing.

Since you are aware of the differences between a research paper and an opinion paper, then I'm sure that you also understand that research must be carried out with accredited sources. Alternative medicine providers might prove to be a legit source, but they could not and should not carry an entire research paper. "Researching" only one point of view (yours, prior to research) will only yield an opinion paper. True research will cover all potential sources of legtimate information.

You may be suprised at the outcome. You may change your mind in the process of researching your paper, if you truly go into it with an open mind.

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Well of course they mostly agree with you. They work with you. They're looking you in the face, don't want to hurt your feelings, don't want to make you angry, don't want to make you feel bad, etc. They are there with you. We, on the other hand, are not. We'll say what we think.

That is not contrary to what anybody thinks. Why would you believe we think otherwise?

As long as you're throwing that around, I have to ask: do you know the actual quotation?

We will. Hope you're ready :)

Thanks for having an open mind. :up:

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Ebony, I will guess that the Anatomy class that you took in MA school will seem like Kindergarten after you take your A&P semesters for nursing.

Since you are aware of the differences between a research paper and an opinion paper, then I'm sure that you also understand that research must be carried out with accredited sources. Alternative medicine providers might prove to be a legit source, but they could not and should not carry an entire research paper. "Researching" only one point of view (yours, prior to research) will only yield an opinion paper. True research will cover all potential sources of legtimate information.

You may be suprised at the outcome. You may change your mind in the process of researching your paper, if you truly go into it with an open mind.

That was probaly one of the most sincere comments in this thread. Kudos to you!

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Ebony ~ I think that whatever one is passionate about they should go for it.

This is one of the amazing ways we grow and learn and change or change the world!

I say go for it. In nursing school, many of my ideas were seen as off the wall to the majority, but that was what I was passionate about and I think that is very important (especially when you are doing research and writing!).

I did not read all the posts, but if your professor knows your topic and is fine with it, go for it. I'd love to read it too.

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You know I think your view on the matter has to also do with where you were born and your family background also. I was born in Jamaica and raised in Nassau so I've always seen my mom and grandma drink tea when they were constipated instead of taking Miralax.I think culture has to play a role in it too. Just a thought...

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Specializes in Pediatric/Adolescent, Med-Surg.
Wow, ok. So all of these advances in medicine and no one has found a cure for AIDS, Diabetes, or HTN? Seriously? I'm assuming all of you here are pretty smart but drug companies rather just keep selling you pills that does'nt fix ANYTHING than to have a world of healthy people walking around. It'll cut into their pockets. Think about it people.

Sure, there's a cure for HTN and Type 2 Diabetes, it's called watching your weight, eating right, and exercising. If you don't heed modern medicine warning on how to prevent all these things, then all we can do for you is give you your pills, and encourage you to lose weight.

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Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.

Now, if your research paper is on using herbal remedies instead of pharmaceuticals for simple ailments, that is something that I'm sure many of us can agree on. Hell, I used to be an herbalist and made/sold my own herbal products. I have no disagreement with that.

What I do disagree with is the idea that the government is 100% corrupt and has no interest in serving the people, and that pharmaceutical companies are in cahoots with the government to hold back the cures for cancer and AIDS as a money-making scheme. That's just tinfoil hat talk.

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I think that the biggest "cure" for a lot of diseases is prevention. I'm sure I am going to make some people very angry when I say this, but we spend loads of money trying to cure things that are very preventable. I know there are innocent AIDS victims out there, but how many people who have AIDS, have it because of choices they make? How many people with HTN have it because of choices they make (me for sure...I was on HUGE doses of Metoprolol until I made a few changes to my diet and lifestyle and my B/P is better than ever.... and without meds)? How many people have certain cancers because of choices they make?

I really don't think there is a "cure" for everything...and often the "cure" would come at a price that most of us aren't willing to pay. Look at the side effects of chemotherapy and radiation!

I can't believe for even a second that it is a conspiracy against us. There are too many people out there who are too honest, too caring, or too loose lipped to have something like that so on for this long. And, if someone truly did find a cure for cancer or Alzheimer's or whatever and the government covered it up, would they really keep quiet? Maybe a few, but I don't think everyone would.

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Pharmaceutical companies do not control all medical research. It is a very complex system. Most universities have their own research facilities, as do many government organizations, most of their research is funded by grants, but in the interests of fairness and integrity, many researchers rely on other sources of funding besides big pharma.

There are plenty of research granting and regulating organizations out there that do not have anything to do with the pharmaceutical companies.

In addition to which, all research facilities are held to very strict international regulations on appropriate ways to develop research projects, the protection of the rights of research subjects, the way material can be developed, what types of areas can be pursued and the ways in which it is acceptable to do that.

They are held accountable to those standard in mutitudinous ways through numerous ethcis organizations, IRBs, etc.

There are too many agencies and individuals involved in research to be able to say that this is a conspiracy that big pharma has cooked up...

Are there shenanigans? Sure. Medicine and Pharma are big business. But that really depends on who is doing the research and where it is being done. You have to take into account as well the huge egos that are involved in the process.

It's not just about money and prepetuating the industry, a lot of research scientists would love to find a cure, think of the validation, the sense of personal satisfaction, yeah they get money, but on a personal level there is a whole lot more at stake that no amount of money can buy. Maybe even a Nobel prize............

If you want to write this paper, I would suggest you do some serious research first into the multitude of agencies that contribute to the process, the guidelines for good clinical practice, etc. etc. Maybe do some reading on respected research scientists.

A good place to start would be with the National Institute for Health website:

http://www.nih.gov/

And as much as I hate to use Wiki as a source, you might take a look at this link as a jumping off point to find the actual official links for organizations involved in regulating research:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_review_board

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Specializes in LTC.
are you sure about that, katie?

i had a very good friend (an elderly, retired doctor) in the 80's, and we were having one of our many, philosophical discussions.

she swore on everything dear to her, that 'we'/america, had a cure for cancer, but 'we' make too much $$ in managing these folks with outrageously expensive treatments.

that, if cancer could be cured, we would stand to lose billions and billions of dollars.

her statement stayed with me, and i have always wondered if there was any merit in what she believed.

leslie

This is 2010, not the 1800's! You can NOT convince me otherwise that there is isn't a cure for at least diabetes. The gov't decides what has a cure and what doesn't, but OP, you keep researching. I doubt you'll find the answer you're looking for.

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