My nursing student didn’t take me seriously because of my age - page 4

I wasn't planning on posting my encounter with this student I had a semester ago. Until the student's clinical instructor returned to my unit the following semester. I was pulled aside and was given... Read More

  1. by   Kratoswife
    Quote from HalfBoiled
    I was two years ahead in high school graduating at the age of 16.
    I finished my nursing pre-reqs within two years and got accepted to a local state college nursing program (BSN) at 18.
    I graduated nursing school, passed my NCLEX, and was hired at 21. (Very emotional year).
    You seem like a great nurse!

    But, that student will hurt someone if he has not already done so.

    I would have told his instructor about everything he did. I actually think you should have emailed the DON!

    Not everyone is meant to be nurse.
  2. by   riggy3
    This student needed to be firmly addressed by the instructor at the time. As a Nursing Instructor I always asked the co assigned nurses to come to me immediately with any issues.
    You mentioned the instructor apologized to you for the behavior of that student during the next term. That instructor was tuned in to what happened the day you refer to by subsequent behavior problems.*
    The student demonstrated behavior that indicates to me they will be dangerous as a nurse. * As the RN you are responsible for patient safety. You do not need to defend yourself due to age or gender to a student. You were very tolerant putting up with the student behavior. Take the next student out to the instructor. Keep up the good work!
  3. by   turtlesRcool
    Quote from TriciaJ
    They don't guarantee any quality. I overheard one nursing instructor tell a student "In this program you set your own learning goals." ***** And no student ever decreased my work load.
    Eh, sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. Yes, it takes longer to do things when I'm going through and explaining what I'm doing. There are days when I'm barely keeping my head above water, and they're just tagging along as I race from here to there. But if they're giving meds with an instructor, it can be a big time-saver to have part of my morning med pass done for me. Dressing changes can also be much better if I've got a student to help position a patient or even do the dressing change with the instructor. Even doing patient care can really help because if we're busy, the PCTs are probably swamped, too, and a student toileting a patient frees me up for other things.

    In return, I like to look out for them, and if I'm doing something I think they might want to see, I'll go to the nursing instructor and say something like, "I'm going to be hanging blood. Would any of your students like to see the process?" Or I'll offer to let a student do a bladder scan or remove a foley with me (or watch me insert a foley, since I don't think they're currently allowed to insert per hospital policy). I always ask the patient first, but sometimes the skills-type things happen on patients none of the students are assigned, so I like to give them a heads up. Most instructors and students are appreciative.
  4. by   AuRN
    I understand how you feel, OP.

    Im an instructor, we call them Clinical Facilitators over here, and I'm in my 20's. I find that some of my students don't respect me because of my age. Most will come around once they see that you are a professional with skills and knowledge but some students are resistant to the point that no matter what you do, they're still not going to respect you.

    Dont take it personally, it comes from their own issues which will no doubt inhibit their own learning, and potentially their practice if they don't modify their way of their way of thinking and behaviours.

    from what I've read, you've provided some exceptional learning opportunities, questioned the student effectively and responded appropriately in these instances. Since you were communicating with the instructor during these times, they would've hopefully picked up on the issues and discussed it with the student and reflected it in the students assessments.

    You have fulfilled your duty as a preceptor and should be proud of your efforts! Students can be a challenge, especially on top of an already heavy workload. It is their loss that they did not accept your guidance, and I would not let that get me down. Thank you for doing your best to train future nurses. I hope the next students you have are more appreciative.
  5. by   Here.I.Stand
    You have waaaay more patience than I do.
  6. by   NurseKait_11
    I'm a bit scared for this person's patients if and when he actually does become a doctor and one of the nurses comes to him with a K+ level of 3 and he just says "Give them orange juice". I am hoping he improves in critical thinking and humility by then!
  7. by   NurseKait_11
    I'm a bit scared for this person's patients if and when he actually does become a doctor and one of the nurses comes to him with a K+ level of 3 and he just says "Give them orange juice". I am hoping he improves in critical thinking and humility by then!

    OP, you did all the right things and handled everything beautifully!
  8. by   angel337
    You sound like an excellent nurse and I love reading posts like this that exemplify what the nursing profession truly is. Keep up the good work and continue to provide safe care. Trust me, this nursing student will never forget you. If he is ever successful in his future endeavors there will be plenty of times he will wish that someone told him the right information instead of letting him " find out for yourself " at the expense of patient safety.
  9. by   FSZ Student Nurse
    Quote from HalfBoiled
    The instructor found out that the student (while walking to his car) openly admitted to his classmates he couldn't take someone who was younger than him seriously. He got wind of my age from his classmates. Per the instructor, this student had a health care work history (non-nursing) and the program was just a filler until he can apply to medical school.

    In the end, no patient harm was done. I understand what it was like to be a nursing student and I stayed patient. I always educate and make sure my students are always safe in any patient interaction. I took theses small circumstances as teaching points for any nursing student having a rotation for my unit.
    First of all, I'm so sorry you had to deal with such an unpleasant fellow! I'm surprised he didn't receive a Clinical Warning (or whatever disciplinary method his Nursing School uses) for his lack of preparedness AND professionalism (and basic human decency).

    Secondly, your students are so lucky! Many nurses don't have the time or patience to deal with student nurses, and just ignore them (or hide - yes it's happened!). I consider myself fortunate when a nurse allows me to ask questions and takes the time to respond. When I've had nurse who offer rationales, information, and explanations and encourage questioning; I am incredibly grateful!

    It sounds like you are a wonderful teacher and nurse. Please keep it up! Even if that student didn't properly appreciate you, I can assure you that other students will. I'd love to meet you in my Clinical rotations!!!
  10. by   Tenebrae
    Quote from brillohead
    I'm gonna guess, from his superiority complex, that he's interested in being a surgeon!

    I graduated nursing school at 44yo -- virtually everyone who precepted me was younger than I was. Age is just a number....
    True story

    In the city that I trained the head of the hospital was a rather tiny lady but mega cahones. The hospital had just been made smoke free and the hospital head was walking into the building when she spotted two orthopaedic registrars (trainee orthapedic surgeons) smoking outside of the hospital main doors.

    When she politely requested these men move on, they apparently drew themselves up to a great height and stormed "who the hell do you think you are?"

    I wasn't there but was told that both surgeons went a very nasty shade of green when she handed them her business card.

    Moral of the story people. Always treat people with respect
  11. by   Kooky Korky
    Student sounds like a real jerk.
  12. by   jeckrn
    Sounds like he will not be a nurse long, or he will go straight through and get is PhD and then say everyone is wrong because he has piece of paper and the book says it will work the way he says it will.

    If I was the preceptor after the second event of the day I would have informed the instructor and told them what was happening. I also would have not allowed the student to preform anymore care for the patient and failed him on his daily evaluation.
    Last edit by jeckrn on Nov 24
  13. by   Horseshoe
    Quote from NurseKait_11
    I'm a bit scared for this person's patients if and when he actually does become a doctor and one of the nurses comes to him with a K+ level of 3 and he just says "Give them orange juice". I am hoping he improves in critical thinking and humility by then!
    I'm skeptical he could even get into med school.

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