Preceptorship: My Nursing Student Didn't Take Me Seriously Because of My Age

I wasn't planning on posting my encounter with this student I had a semester ago. Until the student's clinical instructor returned to my unit the following semester. I was pulled aside and was given a formal apology for the behavior of said student. Nurses Announcements Archive

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I graduated and became a licensed RN at the age of 21. I started working a med/surg floor just a few months later. I'll post detail of my student pathway in the comments.

After I just reached my one year mark working in my unit, I was given a student to assist caring for a patient with a small bowel obstruction.

The issues with my student follows (no particular order)...

1) Pt had a mediport and MD allowed to access because of multiple electrolyte infusions. I informed student what I was going to do. He thought a mediport was a brand name needle for a peripheral IV and wanted to insert himself for more practice. I explained the difference between a central and peripheral IV, but he insisted to insert. I asked the instructor if it was in his scope of practice and, of course, it wasn't

2) I inserted an NGT for my patient. I called for xray to verify placement prior to leaving for lunch. I returned, did rounds for my other 4 patients and came back to my students and patient. During this time, my break relief informed that the student walked the patient around the hallway. When they returned, the NGT was out and I ask why I wasn't informed immediately. His response was, "She sneezed it out. You weren't here. I told my instructor. I figured she would have told you."

3) My patient was pain management around the clock and my student attempted to advocate for pain medications. I praised for his assessment. I asked him to take vital signs and report the respiratory rate and O2 sat. IT WAS 9 and 87% I rechecked and it was still 9. I questioned the student what was a common clinical side effect of opioids. He confidentially said "Addiction." I corrected that it was not pertinent to the current situation and I explained respiratory depression. He was adamant that addiction was correct and went to his instructor to validate. I was right.

4) I tried to explain that an IVF Normal Saline bolus and IVPB of anything does not infuse simultaneously and we would require a second IV pump. He still didn't understand and asked for clarification with his instructor. The instructor said verbatim of what I said including the use of a y-port.

5) Student saw my patient's K+ 3.3 and immediately gave orange juice. I explained it wouldn't bring up the K level compared to IVF and I asked if he was mixing it up with blood glucose levels. He didn't understand went straight to his instructor before I could explain.

6) The clinical instructor wanted the student to practice hanging IVPBs. I informed the student that we will be hanging K+ replacements. We met in the patient's room and I sat the supplies down on the clean bedside table. Before I could verify/scan patient identity, my student started opening IV tubes from the packages and was about to pike the potassium back and I firmly told him to stop. He dropped everything and said "fine." I explained, that I need to perform the 5 rights (there are probably more) of medication administration. We completed the task and he stormed off.

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The instructor found out that the student (while walking to his car) openly admitted to his classmates he couldn't take someone who was younger than him seriously. He got wind of my age from his classmates. Per the instructor, this student had a health care work history (non-nursing) and the program was just a filler until he can apply to medical school.

In the end, no patient harm was done. I understand what it was like to be a nursing student and I stayed patient. I always educate and make sure my students are always safe in any patient interaction. I took theses small circumstances as teaching points for any nursing student having a rotation for my unit.

Specializes in Critical Care.

Not sure if it was just because of your age. That aside, in my opinion, the most dangerous nurse is one who thinks they know everything. What is even scarier is a nursing student who thinks the same.

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Specializes in LongTerm Care, ICU, PCU, ER.

He'll make an excellent surgeon. He already has the attitude for it!

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I don't think it had anything to do with your age. It had everything to do with his inflated ego and low self-esteem. I am still debating about going into an LPN program. If I do, I hope I have an instructor like you. You sound very smart and it seemed like you handled yourself very well with the jerk (did I say that?).

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Specializes in Medsurg/ICU, Mental Health, Home Health.

The age was his expressed rationale for his behavior. If he had not blamed your age, he would have blamed something else about you. The good news is that he isn't a permanent or even long-term fixture in your workplace.

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I never saw the student again because I was not scheduled on their clinical days for another 3 weeks.

I briefly chatted with their instructor on their last day because I had to come to the unit and resolve a discrepancy.

I am unsure if the student was reprimanded when he spoke out about my age to his classmates.

I will probably ask the instructor again next shift.

Thank you for the kind words everyone!

I am thankful for the wonderful support of the AN community.

Happy Thanksgiving!

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I can identify with this, as I am frequently told I look about 10 years younger than I actually am (it's hard being 5' and petite!)

You have gotten a lot of great feedback here so honestly, I don't have a ton to add other than to say I can empathize with you on this one, A LOT. I get it from patients often, and I'm currently getting it from a newer nurse (I have 3 more years experience than her) who is 10 years older than I am and seemingly struggles working among a crew of mid to late 20 somethings. Don't let your nursing student's insecurity about being TAUGHT by a competent younger nurse make you feel insecure in any way; it's him, not you.

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No patient harm was done because you were there! I'm an older student now and can't imagine being disrespectful like that. I have younger nurses teaching me all the time and I respect their knowledge. I hope this guy is NEVER my nurse! Or my doctor! Or even my CNA for that matter!

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I loved reading the OP's comments and I think she did a wonderful job at precepting. I certainly hopes she continues to precept students and has come to the understanding that students/orientees come in all different personalities and with various types of baggage. The student may have been quite intimidated by the whole nursing "thing" or did not know how to act, due to a former health care background. I wonder if he thought more was expected of him because of his previous experience. The mistakes he made or lack of understanding is not unusual for a student, so it doesn't make him more dangerous, but I think there may be more to the story (on his part). Depending on how old he was, saying that you didn't respect a young nurse is quite wierd and the looks on his classmates faces would have told him so. Could it have been in jest?

My suggestion to the OP is, keep precepting, keep being firm, don't get rattled, no need to tattle, you have enough background and maturity to discuss concerns with the student.

Kudos to you!

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I can not imagine anyone knows an exact age but I promise that people often judge based on perceived age. It has happened to me.

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Specializes in OMFS, Dentistry.

HalfBoiled: I wish you were my instructor in school!! =)

Specializes in Critical Care.

Truthfully, he sounds dangerous & was possibly covering for his ineptness by placing blame where he felt it was easy or safe: a younger, female clinical instructor. Fact remains he would have made the same mistakes with a 50 yo male instructor because he was not prepared.

Anyone who goes into nursing these days should anticipate learning from a variety of caregivers. As others have mentioned, older nurses can still be new grads, younger nurses may have more up to dates skills. We all work together.

Regardless of age, regardless of RN vs MD that student still needs to understand safety comes first. He should have been dismissed from clinicals that day & sent back to skills lab for reeducation/ remediation.

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Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
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