Major venting about some CNA's - page 16

First, let me say that I am not venting against all CNA's or even most...I've been one myself. I know how hard they work. I applaude the good ones. My problem is the majority of the ones at... Read More

  1. by   mlolsonny
    Originally posted by mattsmom81
    I agree with Kelli and Brownie.. The patient's 'right' to smoke ends at my nose, IMO.

    At our Christian LTCF, staff is strictly forbidden from accompanying residents outside to smoke...
  2. by   lateblumer
    before i became an lpn at our hospital, i worked as an stna. I worked the MED/SURG floor. I was responsible for cleaning up the equipment after it was used and i too would hide certain pca pumps, tube feed pumps or iv's. People would come and ask where our whatever was, and i would go and find it for them.

    when i got my license, i moved to another unit. The unit i now work on will always ask me where a certain pump or what ever can be found and i will go right up and find it. I tell the other unit that i am taking it, and i always return it to them. We all figure that if it isn't in use at the time i go up and get it, then it isn't hurting them for us to use it as long as it gets returned.
  3. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Suzy the answer is: NO ONE DOES---and that is FINE by ME. They can have patches ------I as a nurse who is busy enough, as well as a nonsmoker, refuse to take smokers out at facilities where it IS allowed.. (one of the places I work DOES allow smokers to go to a gazebo outside the ER). In the event a patient wants to smoke, I let family members do the honor of taking them down for one. In absence of family members, they may need a patch or gum to get by .....no one has DIED FROM NOT SMOKING that I EVER HEARD OF and I have never heard of effective care-planning that mandated taking smokers out for a cigarette......and also....

    I am already asked to watch their babies when they DO go down for a cigarette, so I guess that effectively leaves me OUT as a candidate for smoker-escort! We simply don't have the staffing for it. It's not even on the radar screen of my priorities as their nurse.

    Besides all this, it is silly to compare this situation to taking care of pts with conditions such as HIV, Hepatitis, TB or anything else. I don't refuse to care for ANYone including smokers, drug addicts, alcoholics, HIV + folks, what-not ...one has nothing to do with the other.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Dec 26, '02
  4. by   l.rae
    Originally posted by Susy K
    Here's my question.

    Say you work with a bunch of non-smokers who refuse to take patients out for smoke breaks? Then what? Who does it then?

    Isn't it along the same lines of refusing to take care of a TB, AIDS, pneumonia or other infectious patient because it's bad for your health?
    slap a patch on em. it is NOT the same as taking care of a contageous dse. pt....in the latter scenario, we are giving care, which is our role....the first scenario of escorting a pt to smoke is nothing but a luxury to the pt and a nuicence to the nurse. the pt own't die without a ciggarett, the TB/AIDS pt will die without nursing care.
  5. by   Flo1216
    I don't believe in taking pts outside to smoke. Give em the patch. I do believe however, that the detox patients should be allowed to smoke. It's hard enough to deal with one addiction, let alone two. Let then quit smoking after they have quit doing heroin.
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    maybe flo, but NURSING does not have time to deal with smoker escort duty on top of all the OTHER stuff we do! There just ain't time.
  7. by   Flo1216
    Speaking of smoking...my pregnant sister in law continues to light up in front of me. I want to smack her. She also is about 5 months but has had no prenatal care. But that is another thread...
  8. by   SmilingBluEyes
    OMG flo....yea I hear you and the frustration you express, is palpable to me, having worked in OB AND had past pregnancy losses! Makes ya wanna scream.
  9. by   Flo1216
    SBE...are you following me? I was being sarcastic by the way about the detox pts. I mean, I actually believe that but I do understand. Some of the psych hospitals allow for smoking time but regular hospitals shouldn't. Who has the time? As for my sister in law, I seriously want to strangle her but I don't want to hurt the baby. And she had a c-section with my nephew due to malpresentation and fever. You would think she would want some prenatal care. She said she had no insurance. I told her to go to a clinic. She said she didn't know how to find one. I got her the number. She said she doesn't have a phone to call them. I told her to borrow someone's phone. She said I don't have a car. I told her MASS TRANSIT. Sorry...I am digressing. But Im so annoyed with her.
  10. by   SmilingBluEyes
    oh yea i READ YOU LOUD AND CLEAR flo....I have seen this over and over and over (ad nauseum) in OB. I know EXACTLY what you are saying!
  11. by   kids
    originally posted by skm-nursiepooh
    ...i personally don't think that non-smokers should have smoking duties, especially those with lung problems...i strongly feel that goes against those individuals' personal right to work in a hazard-free environment. in addition, i don't feel that the smoking staff should have to expose themselves to more lung damage by inhaling second hand smoke...if they don't wish to be...despite them being smokers...
    ditto ditto ditto

    and i am a smoker.
  12. by   Flo1216
    It's worse when it is a family member. I cannot BELIEVE she has had no prenatal care. NONE. She had care the last time because our parents paid for it and she was under her parents insurance. She sticks her nose up at going to a clinic. Also, her 2 year old is always sick, never dressed warmly(even though my mom gave them tons of winter clothes) and all he wants to eat is junk. All they want is a handout. I am very glad I don't live close by because I would be carting them around everywhere and giving them money. I worry about my nephew though. But they will never learn responsibility if people keep doing everything for them.
  13. by   Flo1216
    kids-r-fun
    she who talks to cats-
    "You can never be to thin, to rich or have to many cats."


    I have 2 cats that need to be adopted.....

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