HESI is Wrong ! Let's File Suit - page 5

i go to school in montgomery co. texas and have done okay in the nursing program making mainly bs through out the course, but i am not good at taking nursing test. comming from a trade background i... Read More

  1. by   schroeders_piano
    I graduated nursing school 4 years ago from a program that used the HESI as an indicator for the nursing instructors to use to update areas of curriculum and for students to gage their weaknesses before taking NCLEX.

    There is another nursing school in my area that uses the HESI as an exit exam. IF you don't pass, you don't graduate. I work with nursing students from this school every semester. The students are either on my unit as a clinical group or they are precepting with me. I have heard countless conversations from these students on how hard certain tests were, or how unfair that they had to do this careplan, or whatever. Quite frankly, I'm tired of it. Nursing school is hard. Being a nurse is even harder.

    To the OP, your nursing program clearly stated in their policies that an exit exam would be administered. You were told a year ago that you would be taking a HESI exam. We did not choose this nursing school, you did. We are not forcing you to become a nurse. So suck it up. You have a chance to study your weaknesses and to work on test anxiety before you have to take the HESI again. If you fail NCLEX, are you going to sue them?
  2. by   RNsRWe
    Anyone else notice the OP has disappeared from the discussion?
  3. by   EricJRN
    Quote from Hopefull2009
    I cannot think of any other major, NO other major, not even medical school, where an exam is given upon graduation, and you aren't allowed to graduate if you don't pass it.
    Passage of at least Step 1 (and often Step 2) of the medical licensure exams has become a fairly standard requirement for graduation from US medical schools.

    A Google search with several links to this effect:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...MLE+graduation
  4. by   Sheri257
    Quote from Hopefull2009
    I would be curious to see if statistically, if students that don't do well on the HESI, can't pass the NCLEX. If it's not supported, then any school that gives the HESI is doing it to artificially boost their numbers for the BON.

    The problem with the HESI is that the people that designed the HESI are not the same people that designed the program for these individual nursing schools. That is why alot of students are passing the courses and can't pass the HESI.
    Many studies have shown that HESI boosts NCLEX pass rates, and that it's a good indicator of NCLEX success.

    As far as different people designing the tests ... that's going to be a problem both in nursing school, the NCLEX and, in my case, even some jobs you interview for once you get your license.

    In my nursing program, at least, the tests were constantly changing every semester with different teachers. I also had to take both ATI and HESI and those tests were different from our nursing school exams. And the NCLEX was a completely different exam all together. Nothing like my nursing school tests at all.

    If you're looking for consistency with nursing academia ... it's just not going to happen, at least in my experience. You have to adjust and do what you have to do for every single test because it's never going to be the same.

    And it doesn't necessarily stop after you get your license either. I thought that once I got my license my testing days would be over. Wrong. I'm currently interviewing for two great paying jobs where I've got to take even more tests as part of the interview.

    They won't tell me whats on these tests so .... I'm totally in the dark on what to study. Ironically ... it's even worse than the NCLEX or any other exam I've had to prepare for because there are no study guides for these exams. I have absolutely no clue what they're going to ask me.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Apr 11, '07
  5. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from RNsRWe
    Anyone else notice the OP has disappeared from the discussion?

    Yep, I did...
  6. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from RNsRWe
    Anyone else notice the OP has disappeared from the discussion?
    For what it's worth, I did warn him in a post awhile back that he had posted enough information about himself and his program so as to be specifically identified by his program.

    Maybe he didn't want to keep up this particular discussion, in that light.

    I wouldn't.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  7. by   lsw1956
    The nursing program I attend has you take the Hesi on all four levels of nursing. I attend the AD program. First level you have to score 750, second level-800, 3rd level-850, and 4th level 900. What concerns me is that the instructors don't even know what is on the exam so there is no prep for it. If anyone reading this has taken the hesi for level 1 can you please let me know what is on it?
  8. by   RNsRWe
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    For what it's worth, I did warn him in a post awhile back that he had posted enough information about himself and his program so as to be specifically identified by his program.

    Maybe he didn't want to keep up this particular discussion, in that light.

    I wouldn't.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Good point. I remember that post. Perhaps the cat's now long out of the bag, and maybe there's a student scrambling to stay in school somewhere in TX...
  9. by   Nan1985
    Hello,

    It is such a relief to see that others are in the same situation as myself. I have recently been through 2 years of a nursing program and passed all of the core curriculum. It came down to a Hesi and I made an 835 and the faculty wanted an 850. I have worked hard and sacrificed so much. My whole family has put things on hold to help me through this long journey and it has come down to a ridiculous controversial test. Myself and another peer are planning on taking legal action along with letters of appeal.
    Not only have we come within inches of passinf the Hesi with their required score but they have bent the rules for other students on teahcer made cummulative finals. Two students were not going to pass the course and graduate if they didn't get two more points on their final, the teachers awarded them those points and they passed the HESI with that 850. How is it that they are more capable than me to take boards? The ehtical and logical reasoning behind all of this madness contradicts everything that we were taught in school.
    I am going to fight for my rights and those of others. I will make this right and win!
    If there is anyone out there that has any documentation or information that can help us in this case please let me know!
    Thanks!
  10. by   cardiacRN2006
    It seems that the only people who find the HESI controversial are those who fail.
  11. by   Nan1985
    Well actually cardiacrn2006,
    There are several others of my class who have passed everything that have complete support and have actually been the ones driving me to fight this test and the schools decision! I want to fight not only for myself becasue it might be to late for me, but if I can make changes for future students it's worth it because no one deserves to have to go through what my family and I are going through.
    I am assuming you passed, but I know you have to know how hard school is and the time and money it takes.
    I know that if given the chance to take boards I would pass with flying colors and I already know I am a great clinical nurse and have passion for patients!
    You might do good to think before speaking on something that you may not know a whole lot about~
    Thanks
  12. by   beachbutterfly
    Quote from Nan1985
    Well actually cardiacrn2006,
    There are several others of my class who have passed everything that have complete support and have actually been the ones driving me to fight this test and the schools decision! I want to fight not only for myself becasue it might be to late for me, but if I can make changes for future students it's worth it because no one deserves to have to go through what my family and I are going through.
    I am assuming you passed, but I know you have to know how hard school is and the time and money it takes.
    I know that if given the chance to take boards I would pass with flying colors and I already know I am a great clinical nurse and have passion for patients!
    You might do good to think before speaking on something that you may not know a whole lot about~
    Thanks
    WOW,how on earth can you claim that you will pass NCLEX with flying colors if you didnt pass Hesi, even though I passed Hesi the first time I would never ever make such an assumption about NCLEX since the questions can be very tricky and cover a. broad subject!!!
    The truth is that Hesi is not a test that requires genius brain and the people prefer to whine about it instead of studying harder
    Please work on your weak areas instead of arguing...
    Last edit by beachbutterfly on May 28, '09
  13. by   angel40
    Just curious did you ever get anything done about the HESI. I am going thru a similar situation and I would love to hear feedback.

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