NY Nurses to Rally Against Mandatory H1N1 Vaccinations

Nurses COVID

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http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/li-nurses-to-rally-against-mandatory-swine-flu-vaccines-1.1465858

hong kong health care workers leery of h1n1 vaccine

http://www.thejobcure.com/reuters_article.asp?id=20090826publ003.html

risks of the swine flu vaccine

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/1813

"time constraints mean that clinical data at the time when pandemic vaccines are first administered will inevitably be limited. further testing of safety and effectiveness will need to take place after administration of the vaccine has begun."

http://www.trustedhealthproducts.com/blog/tag/guillain-barre-syndrome

what is the reason not to inform the public on the tv news about the facts of the swine flu? it seems a bit eerie how fast this vaccine was mandated along with the limited research and trial testings.

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It is information that needs to be brought out and discussed, indigo girl. There has been too much info from one side only, which is leading to a panic state among some. And this panic state is leading us into some uncharted waters.

Technically, although Baxter itself may not be one of the makers releasing vaccine in this country, the news is very troubling. They are in fact very involved in this vaccine maunufacture, and if they have recently had some kind of accident or even sabatoge, people need to know this.

We have to have more than the usual "Swine flu is deadly and you're all gonna DIE if you don't take the vaccine!", which is really all I'm hearing these days. We KNOW the flu is dangerous, that is not news. We KNOW is spreads easily, also not news. What IS news is that we are about to engage in the biggest medication "test" in history, and that those who refuse to be a part of it are being FORCED, under threat of job loss, to participate.

What's the saying? Better the devil you know than the one you don't...

The information on Baxter is freely available. We pointed this out months ago. Again, they have no license to produce swine flu vaccine in the US.

We KNOW the flu is dangerous, that is not news. We KNOW is spreads easily, also not news. What IS news is that we are about to engage in the biggest medication "test" in history, and that those who refuse to be a part of it are being FORCED, under threat of job loss, to participate.

Absolute reckless insanity, isn't it? Ethically/morally/scientifically OUTRAGEous.

This all comes down to individual rights - specifically the right to control one's own body. They aren't going to get away with this. Especially if they attempt to mandate the vaccine for the general public. Sparks over a tinderbox.

"The information on Baxter is freely available. We pointed this out months ago. Again, they have no license to produce swine flu vaccine in the US."

Indigo girl, a labratory breach of this magnitude is pretty serious business! The incident not only released LIVE H5N1 virus, but it allowed it the contact it needs to exchange genetic material with other less deadly, but more easily spread, flu viruses! And then put it all into a nice, easily injected package...And I and others are being told to trust the process and roll up my sleeve for the greater good? That this particular company might have had it's hand slapped here in the US does not make it easier for me to digest. This company is based here in the US, and supposedly has to comply with the same laws as the others. And what about the others? Information on this has not exactly been "freely available". Sure, it's there, IF you know how and where to look. But "information" on the swine flu has been pretty "freely available" to the public, including the idea that this is some kind of "Armageddon-bug" and if we don't all get vaccinated, we will all die, and that those who choose not to are going to spread the virus to all of our friends, children and grandparents. (I know, no one has ACTUALLY said that, but it is the general impression being given)

A line in the article from the Toronto Sun sticks in my mind..."He (Baxter spokesman) said he couldn't reveal more information because it would give away proprietary information about Baxter's production process.". Well, it sounds to me like we NEED some of that "proprietary information"...just what exactly IS the 'production process' that would allow a level-3 biosafety agent to find it's way into a manufactured product?

If this is going to be made a mandatory thing, then I, and many others, want, and demand, the answers to our questions! And, btw, problems are like cockroaches...for every ONE you see, you KNOW there are a hundred you don't. So, what are some of the "unseen roaches" among the other makers? Any "bad drug" stories out there?

What people need are FACTS. What are the FACTS about swine flu, and flu in general? What are the FACTS about vaccination, and the success/failure rates? What are the FACTS about preventing transmission? What we DON'T need are bureaucrats making health-care decisions for all of us based on political realities, fear-mongering, and the profit-making potential of certain medications for certain large corporations. If someone WANTS to get this vaccine, I'm all for then getting it, if they choose. But on the flip side, no one should be forced or blackmailed into having to get it, or else. Either way, let the information be available and put out there for all to see, and caveat emptor.

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These companies buy stocks of viruses & adjuncts from each other, they "partner" to combine resources, this happens on a daily basis. Why do you think Baxter was shipping this virus in the first place?

I have a close friend who co-authored portions of the GMP act which currently defines the conditions required by the FDA to produce biological agents in the US.

He also wrote the first ISO 9000 software used to track raw materials in a final product.

During his tenure with the FDA, he frequently criticized the lax attitude toward vaccine manufacturers shipping materials back & forth, because in many cases, the original lot # weren't cross referenced properly, making the tracking of raw materials impossible.

Should supply's of any raw material become scarce, manufacturers will buy whatever they need from each other. In the end, the vaccine sold here could contain agents from just about anywhere.

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"So, what are some of the "unseen roaches" among the other makers? Any "bad drug" stories out there?"

I could literally post links all day & not even scratch the surface.

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/warningletters/wlSearchResult.cfm?office=Office%20of%20Enforcement

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Absolute reckless insanity, isn't it? Ethically/morally/scientifically OUTRAGEous.

This all comes down to individual rights - specifically the right to control one's own body. They aren't going to get away with this. Especially if they attempt to mandate the vaccine for the general public. Sparks over a tinderbox.

Wanna bet? Read the Patriot Act, project Bioshield.

I don't care what the Patriot Act says...No one is sticking ME with ANYTHING against my will. And I know I am not alone, any attempt to do a large-scale forcible vaccination program will result in such chaos and unrest, the powers that be will wish they had only the flu to deal with.

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I don't care what the Patriot Act says...No one is sticking ME with ANYTHING against my will. And I know I am not alone, any attempt to do a large-scale forcible vaccination program will result in such chaos and unrest, the powers that be will wish they had only the flu to deal with.

I agree with you. I wonder how our National Guardsmen will respond when they're ordered to aim a gun at a fellow citizen who refuses the vaccine.

Personally, I believe anarchy will break out & those citizens charged with upholding project Bioshield will turn on the government officials trying to force the law.

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Of course it's on a school day..... >.

Anyone from here going?

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who's behind all this media fear-mongering? i worked in the news business for a number of years, and believe me, editors and pr folks know how to "create" a story and keep it running for months.

public health officals had previously expressed concern that this years flu season would be larger and were informing govenment officials to gear up appropriately.

[color=#0073ae]from comcast news new swine flu wave in mexico

the next wave of swine flu has arrived, and mexicans are bracing for an outbreak that may be even larger than the one here last spring that became a pandemic.

daily diagnoses reached higher levels in september than the h1n1 peak in april, with 483 new cases in just one day this month alone.

it's unlikely there will be large-scale closings of schools and stadiums, however, because health officials know the virus is usually mild if treated early.

"we know the situation is not as serious" as officials feared last spring, said health secretary jose angel cordova.

still, 3,000 schools across mexico were closed earlier this week as a result of the virus. that number has dropped to 128, education secretary alonso lujambio told senators wednesday, as he said officials are still developing the criteria they will use to shut down schools in the future....

mexico had 29,417 reported cases and 226 deaths as of friday.

the world health organization says more than 300,000 cases of h1n1 have been confirmed throughout the world, and more than 3,900 people have died from the virus.

i've already had a mild respiratory virus though my office staff ---last person had laryngitis and unable to talk. our flu vaccine will be given out at work last 2 weeks in october. many of my staff are already stating they will get it and n1 when available as too young to die.

Of course it's on a school day..... >.

Anyone from here going?

I'm certainly not.

Who's behind all this media fear-mongering?

Currently, it is YOU doing the fear mongering.

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