Yet Another Pre-Employment Drug Screen Thread

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I apologize for contributing to the seemingly endless amount of threads that focus on drug test concerns. I would have voiced my concerns elsewhere if I knew it would not be lost in the vast sea of "I took a ----- & I have to pee in a cup tomorrow. What do I do?"I graduated nursing school in May, passed the NCLEX in June, & had an interview for a Pediatric RN position this past Monday. The day of my interview, things were perfectly normal, despite my nervousness about making a good first impression. I woke up, took my medicine, & started getting ready for the big day. Singing songs by Alanis Morissette at the top of my lungs proved to be a great distraction on my way to the hospital...

I arrived on the unit 30 minutes early (which was way too early, considering the department director showed up 15 minutes late). By the time the interviewer arrived, I had made friends with the RNs & already made myself at home in the nurses station...

While walking to his office, I quickly prepared myself mentally for the typical nursing interview questions. My nerves were surprisingly subtle to be interviewing for my dream job. I knew I was prepared so I put on my biggest smile, turned up the confidence, & rocked it...

The unit director offered me the job (aka my dream job). I am not an idiot, so I happily accepted his offer. Next, we discussed position details, orientation, protocol, blah blah blah. And out of nowhere... SLAP! I am unexpectedly & very rudely thrown out of my dream job induced bliss. Did he just say what I think he said?

I am paralyzed with fear as the realization sinks in. "Would you be willing to perform the drug screen today?" I am sure we all know what the appropriate response to this question should be. Everyone has the right to refuse a drug test. The only problem with saying "no" is that the employer withdraws their job offer almost 100% of the time. Like I said, I'm not an idiot, so of course I agreed to take the drug screen...

Except I am sort of an idiot... A huge, monumental, gigantic idiot.

Rewind to 5:30 AM when I am on the verge of throwing my alarm clock across the room (mornings & I are sworn enemies; my soul is with night shift). After stretching & mumbling angry unintelligible words for longer than is necessary, what is my first action? Something that is so completely routine that it has become an impulse rather than a choice? It's beyond the term "habitual." It has become natural. Routine: Abruptly awake from my dreamy dream job dream, get furious at the alarm, contemplate a method to destroy the source of the noise, press snooze & try to catch up where my dream left off (it's useless), whine/moan/complain, force myself out of bed, take my Adderall. PAUSE! And there it is, the source of all my problems. This tiny little detail that is so well reheorificed, it's completely forgettable. The interviewer keeps talking & I have no idea what he is saying because I am literally sick. I can barely breathe past the lump in my throat. My heart fell to my feet & the butterflies in my belly turned to razor blades. Kenny Chesney's song, "There Goes My Life," set the perfect stage for a murder/suicide of all my dream job opportunities.

I arrived at the Occupational Health Center & it wasn't long until I was handing over a cup of my urine to some stranger. Potentially handing over the single thing that could demolish my every hope of having a career with that facility. There was nothing I could do about it except cringe & self-loathe as I watch it being sealed & transferred. The specimen collecting technician never asked about or instructed me to write down a list of my current prescription(s) and/or over-the-counter medication. Of course, it would not have mattered anyway because I did not have the proper paperwork to prove that I most certainly did NOT meet a dealer down a discrete dark alley for an illegal exchange. I initialed the tubes of my demise & made a B-line for a more secure area that allows anxiety/panic attacks to unravel (which, in this case, was my car)...

I had prepared myself for interview questions, answers, & a tour of the unit... but the possibility that I MAY be sent for a drug screen the very same day never even crossed my mind at all. Frankly, neither did the fact that I would be offered the job even before the interview was complete. I couldn't shake the feeling of impending doom. I still can't shake it off. I guess I should have known that everything was too good to be true.

So here I am now... It's Wednesday, 2 days after the best/worst day of my life. Obviously the results of the 10 panel drug test are not in yet because I was called in by HR yesterday to consent for a background check & to validate my RN license... just to make sure that I am not a crazy psycho going around claiming to be a nurse. It's clear that I am a tad bit concerned & want nothing more than to have this issue magically resolved. However, I refuse to make the mistake of confiding in Human Resources or my supervisor about my issue. What I am prescribed is between me & my physician & is considered private medical records. Plus, I would not want my employer to judge or think any less of me based on what I am prescribed. Above all, I would not want to risk withdrawal of an amazing job offer.

Apparently the old-fashioned "Make a list of all the prescription medications you are taking" is ancient history. No more hauling Ziplock bags of medicine around to prove your legitimate innocence, letting random people invade your privacy, or testing your legal rights. Instead, the techs collecting specimens are no longer allowed to discuss medications with the urine donor, just as we are not required to release our private information to the techs. This method greatly reduces the amount of HIPAA violations, invasions of privacy, & the hassle of formal proof of prescriptions. If the drug screen results in a positive (fail), a Medical Review Officer (MRO) contacts the donor to alert them of the test results & to inquire about any prescribed medications. When all the correct information is gathered & approved (Dr. Name, proof of prescription, name of the pharmacy, etc.), the MRO will declare the drug screen results as negative (pass) & HR will be notified.

I understand why the process has changed & I personally approve of the new drug screen regimen but this can't-eat-can't-sleep-gut-wrenching-gag-reflex-what-is-taking-so-long-feeling has GOT to stop. My main concern is that I fail the drug screen (testing positive for amphetamine [Adderall]) & the MRO alerts HR of a fail without even contacting me. This possibility keeps playing over & over in my mind. The suspense is killing me!

Well, this leaves us with 1 more thread to add to the enormous amount of drug testing threads on allnurses. I had to vent somewhere to people who know exactly what I am going through. ...or else I would lose my sanity. I know it has only been 2 days since the test, but It feels like 2 million years. Hey, I never claimed to have patience as a virtue! Feel free to leave thoughts, opinions, or messages of encouragement. Scolding me is pointless because what's done is done & there is no going back. Plus, I am FULLY aware that I made a mistake. It slipped my mind to skip my meds for a few days to ensure that I would most definitely clear the drug test. I have my legitimate prescription handy for a long-awaited call from the MRO. All I can do is pray they do their job by contacting me before my employer.

Specializes in Med/Surg/Tele/ER/PICC/Psychiatric nurse.

I'm with the majority here. If the px is legal I wouldn't worry about it and you can provide documentation that it's your px then don't sweat it!

Specializes in NICU.

Im not cranky! Im actually quite chipper! I guess I was cranky when I wrote that post...I did state that it wasn't my intention. No need for everyone to jump down my throat! Im sorry for being a jerk...and I hope everything

Specializes in NICU.

...works out for you! (I can't use a computer today..)

Specializes in Critical Care.

Employers are free to ban the use of even legally prescribed medications, most limit their drug testing to illegal use, but not all, so your best bet either way is to be honest. My employer does not allow prescribed opioid or benzo use, but adderall is fine with a script. Either way, your best bet is to be honest, which it sounds like you've done, so try not to sweat it.

You should be fine. The test will come back as positive (but not reported as such), the MRO will get in touch with you, you will tell him the name and phone number of the physician who prescribed it, the MRO calls the doc to confirm, the test is reported as a negative and life goes on. We have random drug testing at my work and this is what happens to me every time.

Specializes in Hospice / Psych / RNAC.

Here's the skinny as jetsy62 has posted...the employer arranges for the screening. You don't give your employer a list of meds. You pee and then wait for the results. If your urine is dirty the drug screening's doctor will get a hold of you to clarify any Rx you have. If it's legal then the screen goes back to the employer as negative...the drug screening company cannot disclose what legal meds you are on. If it's illegal stuff then your screen is given a fail and you won't get hired. Don't get confused...the employer has nothing to do with the urine test except to set it up and then wait for the results from the drug screening company and that's either a pass or fail.

I've had a couple drug screens and the drug screening company never asked me prior to the test for a list of my meds. A little while ago I read on here where the person said that they were asked to give a list of meds prior to the screen...I don't know how legal that is.

First, this post is way too long and detailed...we don't need a per minute play by play of your life...sorry if that sounds rude. Not my intention. Second, why does it matter? If you have a perscription, just show them if they ask. Or why didn't you clarify your prescription before the test and offer to bring proof in at a later time? If you aren't doing anything illegal, then why are you worried?

I have a solution for you, don't read it!!!!! How rude if you don't want to read it then move on maybe she wanted to give a play by play and there is 100% nothing wrong with that. If you don't like it move on, no one asked you to read and respond and it's completely rude to comment on someone's post the way you did. You shoulda kept going if you can't handle the long post!! Oh this angers me.

To the person who started this thread I would completely ignore people who say things like this, you should post as much or little as you want it is your story and you are not forcing anyone to read it. I can't believe how rude some people are, it's amazing.

Specializes in RN, BSN, CHDN.

Have you heard yet? Did you get the job?

Specializes in Critical Care.
Here's the skinny as jetsy62 has posted...the employer arranges for the screening. You don't give your employer a list of meds. You pee and then wait for the results. If your urine is dirty the drug screening's doctor will get a hold of you to clarify any Rx you have. If it's legal then the screen goes back to the employer as negative...the drug screening company cannot disclose what legal meds you are on. If it's illegal stuff then your screen is given a fail and you won't get hired. Don't get confused...the employer has nothing to do with the urine test except to set it up and then wait for the results from the drug screening company and that's either a pass or fail.

I've had a couple drug screens and the drug screening company never asked me prior to the test for a list of my meds. A little while ago I read on here where the person said that they were asked to give a list of meds prior to the screen...I don't know how legal that is.

It is legal for an employer to ask for a list of your meds but only after a conditional offer of employment has been made.

The drug screening company can actually disclose what legal meds you are on, even if you produce a valid prescription. Employers are not required to allow drug use even if it is legally prescribed and can test for these as well as illegal drug use.

Specializes in Addictions, Acute Psychiatry.

Just basic employment stuff. Whether or not you have what you need, you have a Dr. who can attest to the fact you're on it legally. You, therefore, have nothing to worry about. At least you didn't spend your summer smoking a bong and having to wait 3 months to clear before job searching, so don't worry! If you're meant to have the job, you'll have it. If you review old posts, they're all of a similar thread as yours. The internet is a wealth full of information and answers. Tens of thousands of nurses had the same issue as you before. You're not alone (legit or illegit drugs, questions run the gammut).

Specializes in Hospice / Psych / RNAC.
It is legal for an employer to ask for a list of your meds but only after a conditional offer of employment has been made.

The drug screening company can actually disclose what legal meds you are on, even if you produce a valid prescription. Employers are not required to allow drug use even if it is legally prescribed and can test for these as well as illegal drug use.

Not in Hawaii they can't...absolutely not. I know a person that it happened to; the drug screening company sent the meds with the pass result. The result of that was a law suit and the drug company ended up settling for a large little sum. The employer can ask you for a list of meds but that doesn't mean you have to give it to them...I don't.

If we don't stand up for our rights; no one will.

Specializes in ICU.

I had Percocet For a tooth I had pulled. A week later I had my preemploymeny drug screen. Stupid me took one about 36 hours before the drug screen for a back ache. So I said to the employee health nurse " I took a Percocet about 2 days ago for which I have a script for". She says " if it comes up positive, they will just ask you for a script"Done.

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