Working in UK vs Australia

K+MgSO4, BSN · Aug 17, 2013

You better have specialist experience for either country as there is no nursing shortage in either country.

aldzbp20 · Aug 17, 2013

I am an MS / Endoscopy Nurse total of 4 and half years of experience. Actually a UK agency is confirming my employer's interview slot this september. However, i already finished compiling all my papers to apply in APHRA OZ. Applying in Australia on the other hand is quite costly as one needs to enrol for bridging course which is too expensive, but on the positive side some of my friends abroad tells me that working envt and benefits are much better.....

aldzbp20 · Aug 17, 2013

In Australia as opposed to UK. Do you agree? Anyone?

ceridwyn · Aug 17, 2013

UNited Kingdom

aldzbp20 · Aug 18, 2013

UNited Kingdom

May i ask why?

ceridwyn · Aug 18, 2013

If you have read any of the forums here, if you have in your years of being exposed to the world and news different countries such UK versus Australia with all this information and you still have a dilemma choosing between these two then go to the UK, it's a lot of money to part with to become a nurse Registered in Australia. I should know I still carry my Higher Education debt, and if your heart does not say Australia do not come.

Patients tend to know when overseas nurse is not happy and they are second choice persons.

aldzbp20 · Aug 18, 2013

If you have read any of the forums here, if you have in your years of being exposed to the world and news different countries such UK versus Australia with all this information and you still have a dilemma choosing between these two then go to the UK, it's a lot of money to part with to become a nurse Registered in Australia. I should know I still carry my Higher Education debt, and if your heart does not say Australia do not come.
Patients tend to know when overseas nurse is not happy and they are second choice persons.

My question is, is Australia worth paying the enormous tuition fee? And i also read a lot of negative comments about working as a Nurse in UK especially NHS.

aldzbp20 · Aug 18, 2013

Anyway when Im at work I dont let my burdens affect my patients, also with other people, thats my personal value.

ceridwyn · Aug 18, 2013

Then it is your decision. Many nurses from the Phillipines and India work in Australia as well as those from NZ, the UK and never return home so I suppose Australia must be suiting their purposes in living here.

You can try and ask this same questions in several different ways...your the one in your shoes that wants to make the decision.

There is no guarantee of a job after the bridging program and the new requirements for 457 visa-the bill will be passed and law in the next month or so, and your specialty may be seen as a local can be trained in the work. You may have to go through the pr route, which also depends on nursing still being skills shortage list.

aldzbp20 · Aug 18, 2013

Then it is your decision. Many nurses from the Phillipines and India work in Australia as well as those from NZ, the UK and never return home so I suppose Australia must be suiting their purposes in living here.
You can try and ask this same questions in several different ways...your the one in your shoes that wants to make the decision.
There is no guarantee of a job after the bridging program and the new requirements for 457 visa-the bill will be passed and law in the next month or so, and your specialty may be seen as a local can be trained in the work. You may have to go through the pr route, which also depends on nursing still being skills shortage list.

Reading some of your previous posts/comments made me realize why you are so pessimistic about foreign Nurses going there in OZ. I understand that fresh graduates there either locals or foreigns cannot or find it hard to find a job because of the lack of necessary experience to work independently and competently in the hospital settings. This for everyone, first of all if you want to be hired , you should get your *** off and find some institutions to get some experience or trainings. Here in the Philippines Nurses work without pay for 2 years or up just to get an experience. Mind you, working here either in private or govt hospitals is so intense. Nurses here do everything even the work of nursing aids.

The salary of a Full time staff Nurse here is paltry. A months salary is nearly equivalent of a single day salary in OZ and we cant do anything about it since we are living in a third world country. Hence , eventhough we know, crystall clear, that our workload is so unfair for the compensation that we receiev, we still work for the sake of getting an experience. Beyond that to be a paid staff nurse here you need to work for years first without pay in order to reach that stage.

I believe thats what separates us from the rest, we Filipinos doesnt care how hard the job is, we are known for our resiliency and being hard worker across the Globe.

ceridwyn · Aug 18, 2013

I have employed nurses both locals and those from overseas for the past ten years.

Nursing here will never be that oversupplied because standards in universities and clinical placements and student numbers are controlled, so that it becomes difficult to even become a nurse. Too many nurses in the country immigration shuts he gate and slows immigration of nurses into the country, thats what happened in the US, UK ,Canada and now looks like happening in Australia.

In Australia it is considered a professions, professional responsibility not oversupply in ones own profession and to regulate this.

Nothing about Australians being lazy and not wanting to work in their profession and Nearly all have 20 to 30,000 au dollars in university fees that now want to work but due government cutbacks and a very healthy supply of local graduates and a healthy supply of immigration, the jobs are now longer plentiful and therefore as all responsible governments are supposed to do, cut back on immigration and it will be difficult for some new grads to find that first job. As some are mature age some are married with families and cannot work wherever as they see their role as staying near family with their jobs. It is only the younger ones that are happy to travel anywhere in Australia to find that first job.

Until one understands a little of each places circumstances it is poor to make judgment of Australian new grads of not being resilient and hard workers. Also this is a very generic statement and should be used wisely as it is quite a putdown to other nurses worldwide.