We are seeing a few threads on working and studying in the UK for a BSc (Hons) in Health and Social Care at the Anglia Ruskin University or something similar.
Going this route will not enable you to stay in the UK once you have finished. There are no shortage of carers in the UK and even if you are lucky to get a student visa to the UK you will not find a employer willing to assist you to work as a RN as most if not all NHS trusts state they will not assist in work permit unless the job is on the shortage occupation list. Current guidelines for working in the UK is under review and expected to change in November 2008 to a point system and you must pass an English exam although exceptions if you are from a majority English speaking country. Plus EU requirements are employ own citizen first then EU before anywhere else in the world. If you are caught working illegally in the UK there are consequences for you and also fines for the employer. Student visa requires that you can prove you can support yourself and any dependants that come with your and not rely on the state and not work. Please be aware there are scams around and if any doubt what so ever please contact the British embassy in your country and ask them.
none...every agency has just money on their mind..i have other friends and many others i have met here in UK and they were fooled by those agencies...you really will feel sorry for a lot of students here in Uk...
hi.. uhm.. please comment on this.. i want to take the offer in uk which is bsc international nursing.. my problem now is that, im quite worried because im not sure whether i would be able to acquire the required nursing experience by the NMC. our consultant said that we can gain that experience there in uk and during our placements, it will help us add it up & register to NMC.. is that true? im a fresh grad by the way.
hi.. uhm.. please comment on this.. i want to take the offer in uk which is bsc international nursing.. my problem now is that, im quite worried because im not sure whether i would be able to acquire the required nursing experience by the NMC. our consultant said that we can gain that experience there in uk and during our placements, it will help us add it up & register to NMC.. is that true? im a fresh grad by the way.
Depends on the OJT placement.
Your consultant needs to be the one to set up the placement for OJT instead of the school to ensure that you can maximize the legal allowance for working under the student visa.
Also, if you work as a caregiver, chances are slim to none that you will be able to work as a nurse in the future.
You may be able to get a good career as a caregiver and even become manager of a care home (as many Filipinos have done in the UK) but you most likely will never be a nurse.
You need to think of this fact long and hard before you proceed.
hi.. uhm.. please comment on this.. i want to take the offer in uk which is bsc international nursing.. my problem now is that, im quite worried because im not sure whether i would be able to acquire the required nursing experience by the NMC. our consultant said that we can gain that experience there in uk and during our placements, it will help us add it up & register to NMC.. is that true? im a fresh grad by the way.
You'll be coming as a student and working as a student / care giver. The NMC requires that you have experience as a qualified nurse for 1 years therefore I think you'll find it difficult to meet the NMC requirements. Your best option would be to ask the NMC
Your consultant needs to be the one to set up the placement for OJT instead of the school to ensure that you can maximize the legal allowance for working under the student visa.
Also, if you work as a caregiver, chances are slim to none that you will be able to work as a nurse in the future.
You may be able to get a good career as a caregiver and even become manager of a care home (as many Filipinos have done in the UK) but you most likely will never be a nurse.
You need to think of this fact long and hard before you proceed.
As carers are not on the shortage occupation list it would be extremely unlikely a work visa would be granted after the student visa finishes, a career as a care giver would be difficult
As carers are not on the shortage occupation list it would be extremely unlikely a work visa would be granted after the student visa finishes, a career as a care giver would be difficult
Which is why I said "may" instead of "will"
The immigration of caregivers is almost non-existent; but for BSNs who study care-giving in the UK the process is happening for those who are able to build a working relationship with care homes during the education process.
Once again it is more of a situation of making the right connections early on in order to even have a chance at an immigrant visa (yes, the consultancy I refer nurses to uses immigration visas rather than occupational visas to help the BSN-carers stay in the UK).
I never recommend this course for board passers though since I firmly believe that a nurse should stay a nurse and find a job in that capacity.
Got some questions for you guys... I tries applying for canada immigrant visa but didn't meet the 67 points minimum requirements since I have less than a year of work experience as a staff nurse here in the philippines..
REcently the consultancy firm emailed me that I can go via the UK route in going to canada.. They want me to take up Post Graduate Diploma in International Health Management at St. Patricks College for 18 months.. This way it can add up on points for my next Canada assessment.. Is this true?
I can also have the chance to take up the board exams for nurses in UK after taking up this course. True or not??
Is St. Patrick's college a good school in Uk.?
Here is the complete email they sent to me
Program Number 1
-Post Graduate Diploma in International Health Management
-Work 20 hrs per week for the first 9 months, then 40 hrs per week in the 2nd 9 months
St. Patrick's College
24 Great Chapel St., London
Duration of the study- 18 months
This postgraduate diploma is offered at St. Patrick's College, London. This is basically an internship program which provides students
with opportunities to explore and evaluate the disciplines of senior management within an international health and social care context.
This is an 18-month study/earn program. The earning component of this program allows a competent candidate to earn more than
enough to support themselves and even save while learning in an advanced health management training atmosphere.
The course provides training and experience so that graduates will be more aware of global health strategies and learn how to foster
business partnerships to better achieve set medical objectives. Graduates will have a better understanding of international health
concerns and learn how to deal with management in the wider environment as well as within the health care organization.
Graduates will develop skills specific to HR planning and be involved in development methods in the health service. After completing
this course, graduates are well-equipped to handle the international standards of health management posts both in the United Kingdom
and the Philippines.
The fees would be as follows:
Tuition Fee- 5,190 pounds
Registration Fee- 35 pounds
Embassy Fee- Php 11,800
IELTS-6.5 bandscore
This is an 18-month study/earn program. The earning component of this program allows a competent candidate to earn more than
enough to support themselves and even save while learning in an advanced health management training atmosphere.
Got some questions for you guys... I tries applying for canada immigrant visa but didn't meet the 67 points minimum requirements since I have less than a year of work experience as a staff nurse here in the philippines..
I would suggest that you make up the work experience required to work in Canada if that's where you want to work
REcently the consultancy firm emailed me that I can go via the UK route in going to canada.. They want me to take up Post Graduate Diploma in International Health Management at St. Patricks College for 18 months.. This way it can add up on points for my next Canada assessment.. Is this true?
You would need to speak to the Canadian Immigration / nursing boards about that. It may well be they don't recognise the qualification and the transferability of international qualifications is notoriously difficult to assess. I certainly wouldn't take the word of anyone who is going to take money off you to get you enrolled on the course
I can also have the chance to take up the board exams for nurses in UK after taking up this course. True or not??
It would be up to the UK borders agency if they would extend your VISA to do this, but if you don't have more than a years experience as a nurse you won't fit the criteria that is needed by the nursing and midwifery council so wouldn't be eligible for registration as a nurse in the UK
Is St. Patrick's college a good school in Uk.?
No idea although I've looked at their website and found this a bit of a worry
With the UKBA Suspension of the College lifted, the College is resuming its normal recruitment activities. However, owing to the backlog there are delays in processing applications. Student applications for the May or September intakes are being processed in accordance with any new regulatory changes too. Further announcements will be made as appropriate imminently. Each application is being assessed individually in line with the appropriate criteria, and the decision will be communicated in due course in the usual way.
The recent UKBA temporary suspension of the College (which was lifted on 3 March 2010), and recent changes to UKBA regulations have caused major disruption to the normal recruitment activities and processes of the College. None of the College's core activities such as teaching and classes were affected. But we now have a backlog of applications and logistics to put in place for our future intakes. With some courses only being offered next in September after the January intake, this adds further complexity. We are trying to minimise any possible uncertainty and apologise for any delays and inconvenience caused while we process the backlog. We would also like to take this opportunity to thank you for your patience and understanding.
I wonder why the borders agency suspended the college
I think you need to ask lots of questions and not to the college who will relieve you of your money to study there. You need to speak to the nursing boards and immigration agencies of both countries to see if they will accept what this college is claiming.
hello guys...Im a midwife , I know this website is for the nurses. however, i am also an applicant of ISA. I am already done with the video interview. Ive read your posts...Is it a benefit if you are a care giver and apply in study and work program in the UK?
I hope I can have your reply as soon as posssible.
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hello guys...Im a midwife , I know this website is for the nurses. however, i am also an applicant of ISA. I am already done with the video interview. Ive read your posts...Is it a benefit if you are a care giver and apply in study and work program in the UK?
I hope I can have your reply as soon as posssible.
Working as a carer will not benefit you at all. The UK requires RN experience and a carer will not meet that requirement. They are also putting a limit on how many skilled worker applicants are accepted which will have an impact for many
marslarks
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none...every agency has just money on their mind..i have other friends and many others i have met here in UK and they were fooled by those agencies...you really will feel sorry for a lot of students here in Uk...