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No matter what your experience in the Philippines it wouldn't matter here in US let alone 10 years of ICU there. Just know your basic nursing skills and the rest will be taught to you during your orientation in the hospital. As I said a right amount of orientation will be given to you depending upon the unit of your choice or whoever hires you. The hospital that hired you or even your manager to Director of Nursing wouldn't even have the slightest idea of what your "agency" requires. It doesn't go beyond that you're being judge because you don't know anything and reflects back to where you came from and what agency hired you, and the "agency" is accounted for. It's nothing like that here at all...believe me. Whatever position you have in the Philippines, it wouldn't matter here at all. Everybody is equal from Filipino to Indians, Mexicans, Hispanics to newly graduate US nurses. All that is newly hired will be treated in equal amount of orientation. And the designated preceptor will evaluate his/her orientee weekly, and weekly meetings as well with your nurse educator, manager plus the preceptor and the orientee. I am a preceptor/charge nurse here so basically I know this. And have grounds to say that your experience in the Philippines doesn't matter. The CPR credential or certificate that you obtain from Philippine Red Cross is not recognized here at all because it's not accredited by American Heart Association. We have what we call BLS card (Basic Life Support) then to ACLS (Advance Cardiac Life Support)...and more certification. Save your money because you will need it, then read your nursing books over and over again, believe me, it'll help a lot. Because orientation doesn't only involve evaluation on skills but also knowledge. Yes I mean exams...weekly..every systems..and BTW did I say basic computer skills too? Yup, tests/exams are given computer based just like your NCLEX or TOEFL. And also just for your info, most hospitals don't handwrite their nursing notes to doctors order anymore, it's all computer based as well..so really just stay put and save you're money and energy because you will need it.

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No matter what your experience in the Philippines it wouldn't matter here in US let alone 10 years of ICU there. Just know your basic nursing skills and the rest will be taught to you during your orientation in the hospital. As I said a right amount of orientation will be given to you depending upon the unit of your choice or whoever hires you. The hospital that hired you or even your manager to Director of Nursing wouldn't even have the slightest idea of what your "agency" requires. It doesn't go beyond that you're being judge because you don't know anything and reflects back to where you came from and what agency hired you, and the "agency" is accounted for. It's nothing like that here at all...believe me. Whatever position you have in the Philippines, it wouldn't matter here at all. Everybody is equal from Filipino to Indians, Mexicans, Hispanics to newly graduate US nurses. All that is newly hired will be treated in equal amount of orientation. And the designated preceptor will evaluate his/her orientee weekly, and weekly meetings as well with your nurse educator, manager plus the preceptor and the orientee. I am a preceptor/charge nurse here so basically I know this. And have grounds to say that your experience in the Philippines doesn't matter. The CPR credential or certificate that you obtain from Philippine Red Cross is not recognized here at all because it's not accredited by American Heart Association. We have what we call BLS card (Basic Life Support) then to ACLS (Advance Cardiac Life Support)...and more certification. Save your money because you will need it, then read your nursing books over and over again, believe me, it'll help a lot. Because orientation doesn't only involve evaluation on skills but also knowledge. Yes I mean exams...weekly..every systems..and BTW did I say basic computer skills too? Yup, tests/exams are given computer based just like your NCLEX or TOEFL. And also just for your info, most hospitals don't handwrite their nursing notes to doctors order anymore, it's all computer based as well..so really just stay put and save you're money and energy because you will need it.

Thank you for imparting your knowledge and experiences. These will help out many Filipino RNs wishing to work in the US.

Hope they listen to those who have actual experiences with these things and not just any local professor, reviewer or some staff in agencies that aren't even licensed in the U.S. or the very least applied for the NCLEX and passed it.

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kathykaye has 1 years experience and specializes in geriatric nursing.

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yeah thanks asiarn for sharing those infos! ;):idea:

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No matter what your experience in the Philippines it wouldn't matter here in US let alone 10 years of ICU there. Just know your basic nursing skills and the rest will be taught to you during your orientation in the hospital. As I said a right amount of orientation will be given to you depending upon the unit of your choice or whoever hires you. The hospital that hired you or even your manager to Director of Nursing wouldn't even have the slightest idea of what your "agency" requires. It doesn't go beyond that you're being judge because you don't know anything and reflects back to where you came from and what agency hired you, and the "agency" is accounted for. It's nothing like that here at all...believe me. Whatever position you have in the Philippines, it wouldn't matter here at all. Everybody is equal from Filipino to Indians, Mexicans, Hispanics to newly graduate US nurses. All that is newly hired will be treated in equal amount of orientation. And the designated preceptor will evaluate his/her orientee weekly, and weekly meetings as well with your nurse educator, manager plus the preceptor and the orientee. I am a preceptor/charge nurse here so basically I know this. And have grounds to say that your experience in the Philippines doesn't matter. The CPR credential or certificate that you obtain from Philippine Red Cross is not recognized here at all because it's not accredited by American Heart Association. We have what we call BLS card (Basic Life Support) then to ACLS (Advance Cardiac Life Support)...and more certification. Save your money because you will need it, then read your nursing books over and over again, believe me, it'll help a lot. Because orientation doesn't only involve evaluation on skills but also knowledge. Yes I mean exams...weekly..every systems..and BTW did I say basic computer skills too? Yup, tests/exams are given computer based just like your NCLEX or TOEFL. And also just for your info, most hospitals don't handwrite their nursing notes to doctors order anymore, it's all computer based as well..so really just stay put and save you're money and energy because you will need it.

it is so enlightening! thanks for sharing us your knowledge and your experience.

good thing it is a fair playing field out there where everyone is equal regardless of race or work experience. new hirees, as you say, will undergo hospital orientation.

so would you say it is better to be directly hired by hospitals than go thru an agency? most of the agencies here i inquired from have requirement of at least a year of experience. so to do away with that, new nurses like me, who already passed cg/nclex and ielts, have to check out hospitals willing to sponsor RN's here in the phils. hehehey. the net!

so as it is necessary, a good resume and cover letter can help us out. well. after i passed my cgfns, i tried emailing several hospitals applying for RN position but my search was nill. they dont sponsor or they refer me to their agencies here which of course, would require me to have work experience. will see. and will try again my luck.

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good day to everyone! thanks asianrn! im delighted to read your post. will be monitoring.

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yes very possible! those who require experience are the employment agencies only. my sister has a tourist visa, a walk in applicant in CA and she is working for 6 months now!

Hi there. I just wonder how is it possible to just have the tourist visa instead of a working visa? Can you give me an advice regarding this? Thanx!icon7.gif

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No matter what your experience in the Philippines it wouldn't matter here in US let alone 10 years of ICU there. Just know your basic nursing skills and the rest will be taught to you during your orientation in the hospital. As I said a right amount of orientation will be given to you depending upon the unit of your choice or whoever hires you. The hospital that hired you or even your manager to Director of Nursing wouldn't even have the slightest idea of what your "agency" requires. It doesn't go beyond that you're being judge because you don't know anything and reflects back to where you came from and what agency hired you, and the "agency" is accounted for. It's nothing like that here at all...believe me. Whatever position you have in the Philippines, it wouldn't matter here at all. Everybody is equal from Filipino to Indians, Mexicans, Hispanics to newly graduate US nurses. All that is newly hired will be treated in equal amount of orientation. And the designated preceptor will evaluate his/her orientee weekly, and weekly meetings as well with your nurse educator, manager plus the preceptor and the orientee. I am a preceptor/charge nurse here so basically I know this. And have grounds to say that your experience in the Philippines doesn't matter. The CPR credential or certificate that you obtain from Philippine Red Cross is not recognized here at all because it's not accredited by American Heart Association. We have what we call BLS card (Basic Life Support) then to ACLS (Advance Cardiac Life Support)...and more certification. Save your money because you will need it, then read your nursing books over and over again, believe me, it'll help a lot. Because orientation doesn't only involve evaluation on skills but also knowledge. Yes I mean exams...weekly..every systems..and BTW did I say basic computer skills too? Yup, tests/exams are given computer based just like your NCLEX or TOEFL. And also just for your info, most hospitals don't handwrite their nursing notes to doctors order anymore, it's all computer based as well..so really just stay put and save you're money and energy because you will need it.

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if i'm not understanding the flow of this thread and where you're coming from as a nurse-preceptor, i'd surely balk at your pronouncement that experience doesn't count for anything. for procedures, policies and certain standards relevant to the company, i'm not denying instruction is absolutely necessary, however, it wouldn't hurt to have some exposure to hone some nursing skills, effective communication, interacting, some critical thinking skills or even learning how to deal with what's unlikeable about the work, would it? as a nurse-wannabe (obviously), i wouldn't shirk at the chance to garner experience for my personal enrichment . people learn differently and through different ways, too and inorder to maximize that potential, i think it's not at all useless to immerse one's self in the practice. i want to be good in this profession and thoroughly appreciate the process involved to achieve it. i know it seems cotton-candy ideal but really, that's how i want this second career to be. ok, you can pull the rug off my feet now.

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Again do whatever is necessary you think that is best for you, that you think what is right for you...The purpose of my responses here is to just enlighten you and give you an idea nothing more than that...Now if you think that experience counts and will help you to be the best health care provider then go ahead. My intention was just to answer the OP's questions that's all..BTW I am a preceptor from ICU, tests/exams are done on a weekly basis, I don't know how some floors are..

I think it's a matter of supply and demand there. Too many nurses applying to US so some "agencies" sets up a standard. The hospitals here I am assuming I think would rather have a connections with the agencies there. They rather avoid direct hiring since these hospitals wouldn't have the slightest idea if you are what you claim to be, if tanscripts are real, if your local license is good. No chances of checking your credentials there..so sadly to avoid those risk the hospitals will choose to hire nurses through an agency...I am just assuming all of these since I don't do the hiring, it just make sense to me.

Anyway, goodluck to everybody...

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Too many nurses applying to US so some "agencies" sets up a standard. The hospitals here I am assuming I think would rather have a connections with the agencies there. They rather avoid direct hiring since these hospitals wouldn't have the slightest idea if you are what you claim to be, if tanscripts are real, if your local license is good. No chances of checking your credentials there..so sadly to avoid those risk the hospitals will choose to hire nurses through an agency...I am just assuming all of these since I don't do the hiring, it just make sense to me.

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your point taken quite clearly along wiht your good intentions. even if you hadn't followed-up, i know you're merely showing kababayans their options. that's greatly appreciated.

about hospitals shying away from direct-hiring and relying on agencies with set standards, it's a no-brainer alright. that's their prerogative anyway...

i'm currently working on my ADN in the us while volunteering on the side. strangely so, even if i'm still in manila, being asked to put in a year or so of local experience wouldn't be such a bad idea to me. to each his own.

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This thread is really nice. It gives me hope and confidence that things will be alright as I am in this situation right now.

I will be leaving for the states anytime next month to work as a nurse without any hospital experience, and this my employer knew when I applied with them. I graduated from nursing school 10 years ago and has never been able to practice it. It will be my first time to work and practice my profession once I get there. I was very apprehensive the past months and was even wanting to pay for a training that I can get. At the same time, i was also confused because some of my friends who are already working in the states told me not to worry about getting a training anymore as the employers/ hospitals will give me an orientation and a training first before I will be left on my own to work independently.

Well, this gives me high hopes. Thanks a lot for your sharing. God bless you all.

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This thread is really nice. It gives me hope and confidence that things will be alright as I am in this situation right now.

I will be leaving for the states anytime next month to work as a nurse without any hospital experience, and this my employer knew when I applied with them. I graduated from nursing school 10 years ago and has never been able to practice it. It will be my first time to work and practice my profession once I get there. I was very apprehensive the past months and was even wanting to pay for a training that I can get. At the same time, i was also confused because some of my friends who are already working in the states told me not to worry about getting a training anymore as the employers/ hospitals will give me an orientation and a training first before I will be left on my own to work independently.

Well, this gives me high hopes. Thanks a lot for your sharing. God bless you all.

Yes. I would trust those friends of yours who are already in the US and your employers that says it like so.

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I will be leaving for the states anytime next month to work as a nurse without any hospital experience, and this my employer knew when I applied with them. I graduated from nursing school 10 years ago and has never been able to practice it. It will be my first time to work and practice my profession once I get there. I was very apprehensive the past months and was even wanting to pay for a training that I can get. At the same time, i was also confused because some of my friends who are already working in the states told me not to worry about getting a training anymore as the employers/ hospitals will give me an orientation and a training first before I will be left on my own to work independently.[/quote]

you dont have to worry. you will be given orientation and you will have a

preceptor who will assess your performance if you could be left on your own.every country has their own system. i was in singapore, their way is different and now im in uk, system here is also different basing on my own experience. good luck. you will be fine

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This thread is really nice. It gives me hope and confidence that things will be alright as I am in this situation right now.

I will be leaving for the states anytime next month to work as a nurse without any hospital experience, and this my employer knew when I applied with them. I graduated from nursing school 10 years ago and has never been able to practice it. It will be my first time to work and practice my profession once I get there. I was very apprehensive the past months and was even wanting to pay for a training that I can get. At the same time, i was also confused because some of my friends who are already working in the states told me not to worry about getting a training anymore as the employers/ hospitals will give me an orientation and a training first before I will be left on my own to work independently.

Well, this gives me high hopes. Thanks a lot for your sharing. God bless you all.

hehey! congratulations! tell us more about your experience soon. go and get it!!!!!!

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