work abroad w/out experience.. possible?

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_Pippin_

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It is possible to work here in the US without any hospital experience in the Philippines. There is a good amount of orientation depending on where you want to work from medical-surgical floor to ED to ICU. We are all here to learn and wok at the same time. Nursing itself is an evolving profession, and we have to adapt to these changes. The things you have learned 10 years ago may not be applicable today since now we are on a verge of new technologies and research. It is wrong and even incomprehensible to say " we are here to work and not learn". I dont' think this is true at all, it's all hearsay since it was just pass on to you by a friend. Most of the Director of Nursing here in US have their Masters in Nursing as their educational attainment, and most of them are supportive to their nurses especially to the new ones. Since they have their Masters, most of them are in support for new research and evidence based practices. Learning doesn't stop as soon as you graduate or have your US license. Education is a continous process...thats' why we have CEU's here, competencies to update our knowledge and skills. Now to the OP, go and follow what you think is best for you not for anyone else's, what you think is right for you...to the others please stop the crab mentality..

I do recognize as valid when you pointed out that Nursing is a continous evolving profession...

However, I beg to disagree with your premise that what I am pointing out is some sort of "crab mentality" coz it's definitely not....

What I am trying to point out is, it is prudent for us nurses to acquire experience first before embarking on a career abroad.

Let us not forget that the Professional image that we carry abroad is not personal one but rather of a whole nation. Isn't it nice and overwhelming to know that our colleagues from other parts of the globe would speak and regard us with great professional admiration? Or would you rather hear sad tales of nurses reprimanded for incompetence and gross professional ignorance? Im sure you would prefer the former rather than the later, am I right?

The sample I've narrated previously is not hearsay so to speak but rather a real scenario in an actual hospital setting....

No amount of reading books and attending theoretical lectures could surmount the knowledge we acquire from actual experience.

Reading and lectures gives us an overview of things to happen but experience gives us confidence and poise in an actual critical setting....

You have a nice day....

FutureUSRN

302 Posts

Specializes in awaiting for Schedule A visa...

Everyone, I mean a nurse whether you're a Filipino, an American, etc, starts his/her career without no experience. I cannot see the point of requiring a Filipino to start his/her career by having an experience in the Philippines before moving into another country, which by the way, has a different standard of nursing practice. One can always start his/her career in a country of his/her choice as long as he/she follows the legal requirements of the land. In the US, everyone will start as a trainee and will be given a preceptor to make sure he/she follows the standards being implemented by the hospital, and assess his/her competencies if already up to the standard before being left alone as competent nurse.

kathykaye

590 Posts

Specializes in geriatric nursing.

i agree to futureusrn... ;)

RGN1

1,700 Posts

Specializes in med/surg.
yes very possible! those who require experience are the employment agencies only. my sister has a tourist visa, a walk in applicant in CA and she is working for 6 months now!

I'm sure it is totally illegal to work on a tourist visa!! There's a mass of immigration hoops that nurses etc need to go through to work in the USA & I really do not think illegal work should be encouraged! It spoils it for those of us who are trying to go through the correct procedures.

FutureUSRN

302 Posts

Specializes in awaiting for Schedule A visa...

...working using a tourist visa is definitely illegal....it's either they are misinformed or it's intentional....

To those planning to do the same, please be wary...it may cost you your dreams....and even the rest of your otherwise fruitful and wonderful life....

tantrum

68 Posts

...working using a tourist visa is definitely illegal....it's either they are misinformed or it's intentional....

To those planning to do the same, please be wary...it may cost you your dreams....and even the rest of your otherwise fruitful and wonderful life....

Tuy Nurse was just probably not clear with her post. Of course it's illegal to work as a tourist. What she probably meant was that her sister was able to get AOS as a walk-in applicant. However, that is only possible if she already passed the NCLEX as a tourist visa only last about 6 months and AOS can take a long time.

asyana

20 Posts

im very much interested to get in touch with an employer who is willing to hire me even without experience. i already passed cgfns and ielts. and will take my nclex in sept or oct. and hoping to work and live in texas eventually.

i understand that processing of papers here in the phils. will take more than a year. and i see that one year or so will be the time for me to work or be trained here while im waiting for my papers. how i wish an employer could bank on me and start the petition process.

knock! knock!

with or without experience is not a problem when youre planning to work overseas coz it is a new ball game and a new setting.it is your desire and willingness to learn that matters most.:idea:

nrswnabee

279 Posts

imo, experience would do a new nurse more good... NOT to satisfy anyone else's requirement but simply for your own benefit. wouldn't it be enough reason that experience gives you the chance to perfect your skills, handle all kinds of temperaments and be unperturbed with the stress of it all? any profession values experience because of the learning opportunities that come along with it. how much more important should it be for health care? even if you plan to work somewhere else, i don't see environment to be such a big issue. with your experience, you'll be more confident to face whatever challenge served on your plate....

jonRNMD

320 Posts

regarding your question, YES it is possible and US immigration laws do NOT require experience to be petitioned for an immigrant visa

asyana

20 Posts

with or without experience is not a problem when youre planning to work overseas coz it is a new ball game and a new setting.it is your desire and willingness to learn that matters most.:idea:

that sounds so promising and uplifting to us new nurses who took the initiative to take all the exams first then later on will go on duty as staff nurses.

but the scenario here is that agencies do require at least a year of experience before a local nurse would be hired for overseas work. as i assessed it, the purpose of this could be for protection-- agencies doing the screening, hospital and patients and ultimately the nurse her/himself. but since the immigration will take a while, i heard there is a minimum of 14 months processing? i see this period as the time that a new nurse (nurse who passed the cg/nclex and english exams) like me can indulge in apprenticeship but the processing of petition should start right away. time is maximized this way.

im quite taken aback with this scenario. i need to go on duty first for a year before i become so marketable. im one of those who are most willing to learn and improve my craft. see, all the exams, are results of my own initiative and determination. but since im burried with my own world--- i am reviewing for nclex right now and i got a lot of stuff to attend to-- i havent known in my circle that an employer hired a nurse who has no experience but passed the cg and ielts. is there anyone here who was lucky, very lucky, to be employed even without experience??? please shout! and uplift my spirit.

since im just new in the arena and i havent explored yet the internet, im also thinking that i could have probably not yet tapped the right person or connection who can help me out. huhhhh! i'll try to manage this concern after my nclex in october. i'll see.

heiyeah, thanks!

FutureUSRN

302 Posts

Specializes in awaiting for Schedule A visa...

You will be hired if you passed NCLEX and IELTS even if you don't have experience. But right you are, the agency will ask you to gain experience during the waiting time, which I think is sensible.

The issue here is whether it is ok or not to go to US to work even if one does not have experience. If US hospital accepts a newbie, why not? US hospital always hires a newbie graduate from American school so why not hire a newbie graduate from a Philippine school as long as everything is done legally?

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