Why PVT is UNRELIABLE. Please read.

There was a time when you could just about bet on the results of the PVT being as close to accurate as could be for an unofficial "glitch". It was a fortune-telling kink in the software that allowed someone to determine, based on a the pop up message they got after putting in their credit card info, whether they had passed or failed.

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People, this is NOT THE CASE ANYMORE.

Over the last few months, increasing numbers of people are finding that they get a pop up that indicates their card was attempted to be charged, and this has always indicated a 'fail'. Whether you use incorrect dates is IRRELEVANT; the software program is designed to attempt to charge your card because you AUTHORIZED it. There is a notification telling you it's a non-refundable charge prior to you submitting payment....and by golly, they are going to try.

If you put in invalid info, and get a message telling you that you should contact your bank, etc etc, it MIGHT mean you failed (because a second registration was now needed for another exam). It ALSO might mean you passed, but there you were, offering the money anyway.

If you put in valid info and it charges you, it won't matter if you passed, the money is completely non-refundable.

If you are unable to register again, no charge attempt is made, it's certainly a good indication of "pass". BUT....here's where it gets icky.....people seem absolutely unable to control themselves, and insist on doing the PVT over--and over--and over again.

What's wrong with that? Well, with increasing frequency, subsequent submissions of card info result in a charge attempt...so once again, you have NO CLUE as to whether you passed or failed. Maybe you passed on the first scoring....failed on the QA review? Maybe. Maybe you passed the review, but now you are flipping out over the newly-found "I FAILED" possibility. Seriously, is this at all worth the back-and-forth cluelessness that only results in MORE anxiety?

I can't see it, sorry, no way---no how.

PLEASE don't post "hey it works!" because if you got a message that matched your results, at this point I'd go with 'coincidence'. Enough people have put in valid info and gotten charged for tests they don't need to make me shake my head. But hey, if you want to keep donating your hard-earned money to Pearson Vue, well they sure are going to be happy you--and others like you--did! ;)

If you INSIST on doing the PVT in spite of all this, I'll leave you with this one nugget of reality, and you can go with it where you want: WAIT AT LEAST 24 hours ANYWAY, as you really do need to wait until the QA review is done (two sets of scores/reviews to your exam are done, sometime over a 24 hour period). If you can't stop yourself from "just seeing what happens", please remember this message if you find that your Happy Dance because you passed turns into an UNhappy cry because you didn't. Or, conversely, you are a mess because you failed....and it turns out you passed.

Some believe they are very smart in using a credit card with invalid info. It's true that this way you don't risk a $200 charge, but honestly....WHAT is the point when it tells you....nothing?

Please, people....you are supposed to be rational human beings ready to be granted a professional nursing license....don't lose your minds now, okay? ?

Specializes in Peds/Neo CCT,Flight, ER, Hem/Onc.
OrganizedChaos said:
She keeps saying, "It's unreliable." But then someone comes along & says, "But it worked for me & my classmate so it can work!"

? Ohrly. What about all the other people it didn't work for or took their money?

And thanks to someone's on-line temper tantrum the thread with a lot of good information got closed.

BBYgirl said:
Im sorry. ..I guess I can only speak of NY ...I understand its not the same in all states.

No, it's EXACTLY the same in all States. Pearson Vue's registration program is used nationally. The PVT is nothing more than a fortune-telling side effect of using the registration software.

BBYgirl said:
I know a lot of new grads that tried it right after they took their exam and it worked just as it did for my friend and I. Without even risking $

Please, for the love of all that is holy, would you take just a moment to look around at all these recent threads about PVT (including reading this one, right from the start) and see what it is that is wrong with what you're saying? Please?

Nurse Leigh said:
:banghead: RNsRWe, do you ever feel like you are trying to dig a hole in the sand with a kid's toy shovel while other people just keep dumping buckets sand back over you?

Sometimes, LOL...yes!! But when I get a message from someone who posts how the information helped them, thanking me for it....I remember why I bother ?

FlyingScot said:
And thanks to someone's on-line temper tantrum the thread with a lot of good information got closed.

BINGO!

The whole stubborn argument that "it worked because I did it one hour after testing and it didn't let me pay and I passed" completely misses the point of WHY it DOES NOT WORK with any reliability, with any consistency, or give any real feeling of confidence to those who do it. That is, except for those who got the answer they wanted....and only them.

I suppose, though, if one is ignorant of all the reasons it doesn't have any value any longer....then sure, they feel great they got "the good pop up" when it turns out that they passed.

Ignorance IS bliss for some.....and a horror show for others :(

Here's an analogy that uses the very same line of thinking: I have a Magic 8 Ball. I asked it "did I pass?" and when I turned it upside down, there was my answer--"it is decidedly so"!! And guess what...I PASSED! Magic 8 Ball is 100% accurate! And when my friend tries it, and it tells her "better not tell you now" she just KNEW she failed! And she DID! It's 100% accurate, I tell ya! ;)

MOST people would agree a Magic 8 Ball is not a great source of knowledge. But people still use the PVT..... :unsure:

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.

People are just digging their heels in & refusing to believe that the PVT is wrong. Well if it worked for you, your friends & your classmates good... I guess. But quit saying it works because then when it doesn't and/or someone spends $200, that someone is going to be VERY unhappy.

OrganizedChaos said:
People are just digging their heels in & refusing to believe that the PVT is wrong. Well if it worked for you, your friends & your classmates good... I guess. But quit saying it works because then when it doesn't and/or someone spends $200, that someone is going to be VERY unhappy.

Well, like I've said, it's about as wrong as a Magic 8 Ball: sometimes it's "right" by coincidence now more than anything.

I think the problem is that now that people have (for the most part) switched to the plan of using invalid card information, they know they aren't risking any funds. And that's completely true, they AREN'T.

However, they then take that "card declined" message to mean they FAILED. And that's the part that is sometimes NOT true. When the attempt to charge the card is made, OF COURSE an invalid card will be declined. It doesn't mean that the charge was needed because of a failure....it means the person intentionally went past two screens asking for confirmation of intent to register for another exam and the charge was put in! And that has been happening with fails AS WELL AS passes.

People really ARE their own worst enemies, sometimes :(

What! I did it from my phone I don't know.

It's SpongeBob with his Magic Conch

Specializes in critical care.
BBYgirl said:
Im sorry. ..I guess I can only speak of NY ...I understand its not the same in all states.

Actually, literally, it is the same in all states.

WellThatsOod said:
What! I did it from my phone I don't know.

It's SpongeBob with his Magic Conch

AH! I had to do some scrolling to see it all ? Yep.....it's about like that!

Specializes in critical care.

RNsRWe, I've decided we should stop posting. COMPLETELY. No one is going to listen anyway. Considering 85-90% pass the first time anyway, they've decided their coincidence is actually fate. Let the ones who get charged but passed come along enough times, maybe people will listen to THEM. I'm not sure they'll listen either way. I wish the ones that did get charged but passed would post more.

I do think that at some point, with the next software update that Pearson Vue does, it will always charge people who wish to register again immediately after the test is done. Right now, it's a gamble because it might....or might not....or it might not do it this time....but when the request is submitted multiple times it might eventually!

No, I really do expect that PV will allow all those who want to register again (AEB the cc submission process) the opportunity to do so.

And that will be that.