There was a time when you could just about bet on the results of the PVT being as close to accurate as could be for an unofficial "glitch". It was a fortune-telling kink in the software that allowed someone to determine, based on a the pop up message they got after putting in their credit card info, whether they had passed or failed.
Over the last few months, increasing numbers of people are finding that they get a pop up that indicates their card was attempted to be charged, and this has always indicated a 'fail'. Whether you use incorrect dates is IRRELEVANT; the software program is designed to attempt to charge your card because you AUTHORIZED it. There is a notification telling you it's a non-refundable charge prior to you submitting payment....and by golly, they are going to try.
If you put in invalid info, and get a message telling you that you should contact your bank, etc etc, it MIGHT mean you failed (because a second registration was now needed for another exam). It ALSO might mean you passed, but there you were, offering the money anyway.
If you put in valid info and it charges you, it won't matter if you passed, the money is completely non-refundable.
If you are unable to register again, no charge attempt is made, it's certainly a good indication of "pass". BUT....here's where it gets icky.....people seem absolutely unable to control themselves, and insist on doing the PVT over--and over--and over again.
What's wrong with that? Well, with increasing frequency, subsequent submissions of card info result in a charge attempt...so once again, you have NO CLUE as to whether you passed or failed. Maybe you passed on the first scoring....failed on the QA review? Maybe. Maybe you passed the review, but now you are flipping out over the newly-found "I FAILED" possibility. Seriously, is this at all worth the back-and-forth cluelessness that only results in MORE anxiety?
I can't see it, sorry, no way---no how.
PLEASE don't post "hey it works!" because if you got a message that matched your results, at this point I'd go with 'coincidence'. Enough people have put in valid info and gotten charged for tests they don't need to make me shake my head. But hey, if you want to keep donating your hard-earned money to Pearson Vue, well they sure are going to be happy you--and others like you--did!
If you INSIST on doing the PVT in spite of all this, I'll leave you with this one nugget of reality, and you can go with it where you want: WAIT AT LEAST 24 hours ANYWAY, as you really do need to wait until the QA review is done (two sets of scores/reviews to your exam are done, sometime over a 24 hour period). If you can't stop yourself from "just seeing what happens", please remember this message if you find that your Happy Dance because you passed turns into an UNhappy cry because you didn't. Or, conversely, you are a mess because you failed....and it turns out you passed.
Some believe they are very smart in using a credit card with invalid info. It's true that this way you don't risk a $200 charge, but honestly....WHAT is the point when it tells you....nothing?
Please, people....you are supposed to be rational human beings ready to be granted a professional nursing license....don't lose your minds now, okay? ?
I don't see why they would refund the money. As you mentioned, they go through a process before they are actually charged. It is not like you can just accidentally click the button and say "Oops!." It seems like a "let the buyer beware" kind of scenario. I might have tried it myself if it was $20.00, but for $200.00...no way. It is not worth that amount of money for the piece of mind that really only comes when you see the quick results. I wasn't even happy then! I kept checking the BON website for my license number (which I got today!).
I don't see why they would refund the money. As you mentioned, they go through a process before they are actually charged. It is not like you can just accidentally click the button and say "Oops!." It seems like a "let the buyer beware" kind of scenario. I might have tried it myself if it was $20.00, but for $200.00...no way. It is not worth that amount of money for the piece of mind that really only comes when you see the quick results. I wasn't even happy then! I kept checking the BON website for my license number (which I got today!).
Yay! Common sense!!! I bet you passed with flying colors. ?
Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.
ixchel said:
Oh, to hell with that junk! They CONSENTED to those charges. No way would I actually give that $200 back!
Often people contact their CC company and dispute the charge and the CC company automatically reverses the charge and the onus is on the merchant to prove it was a valid charge. That happened to me countless times because at first I used a third-party CC processor and their bill would say "ABC Credit Processing" instead of "Klone's fine herbs" and even though it says right on the receipt that the charge would come from ABC credit processing, they would see that on their CC bill and call the CC company and say "I never made that charge!" And the CC company would reverse it and I would be out that money.
In the case, it would probably just be easier for PV to just say "**** it!" And not pursuing the chargeback.
Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.
Flamencoguy said:
I don't see why they would refund the money. As you mentioned, they go through a process before they are actually charged. It is not like you can just accidentally click the button and say "Oops!." It seems like a "let the buyer beware" kind of scenario. !).
As I said, it's not PrarsonVue that refunds the charge, it's the credit card company that refunds the charge, then it's up to PearsonVue to prove it was valid and go after the funds. And in the case in question, I imagine PV would find it more effort to try to prove that it was a valid charge and will just let it go, rather than fight it.
As I said, it's not PrarsonVue that refunds the charge, it's the credit card company that refunds the charge, then it's up to PearsonVue to prove it was valid and go after the funds. And in the case in question, I imagine PV would find it more effort to try to prove that it was a valid charge and will just let it go, rather than fight it.
Truthfully? I hope they do. Buyer remorse (or in this case, intentionally creating a duplicate registration and then refusing to pay) isn't something that should be rewarded, IMHO.
Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.
I agree with you. But I imagine they have bigger fish to fry than pursuing 200 chargebacks every month for a service they're not actually providing (for those who don't actually need to retake the exam).
That's why I feel for PearsonVue. There's an actual person who has to deal with that ****. Most people don't really think of that angle when they do the PVT 4 times in a row to see if they really did pass.
I'm fully on board with not messing with the PVT. I live in CA, which is not a quick-results state. What options do I have other than waiting the four weeks? (Which is ridiculous, frankly, in this digital era.) I hear about people checking for their license on the website of their state board of nursing... does this work in all states? And about how long does this take? I did apply for an interim permit... I have a job interview tomorrow and that hospital, if I get hired, will work with me under an IPN, but it would be nice to know when I can expect to know about the Real Thing. :)
I graduated three weeks ago and I'm still waiting for my ATT (and IPN). Longest three weeks of my LIFE, except for when I was two weeks overdue with babies. :-)
I'm fully on board with not messing with the PVT. I live in CA, which is not a quick-results state. What options do I have other than waiting the four weeks? (Which is ridiculous, frankly, in this digital era.) I hear about people checking for their license on the website of their state board of nursing... does this work in all states? And about how long does this take? I did apply for an interim permit... I have a job interview tomorrow and that hospital, if I get hired, will work with me under an IPN, but it would be nice to know when I can expect to know about the Real Thing. ?
I graduated three weeks ago and I'm still waiting for my ATT (and IPN). Longest three weeks of my LIFE, except for when I was two weeks overdue with babies. ?
In California, if it's the NCLEX-RN we're talking about, you can check a consumer reporting site called BreEZe that lists the names and license numbers for RNs (and other licensed professionals, of course). Usually the info posted to this site is faster than the updating of the CA BoN website for some reason, but there it is. This option unfortunately does not hold true for PN licenses.
Interim permits are normally made invalid on the day the NCLEX is taken; it is replaced either with a valid license number or....not, because none is to be issued. In California, I honestly don't know how this works, as it's not expected you'd get official notification of having received a license for several weeks. I imagine that your permit, in California's case, would still be valid until a BoN posting occurs?
At any rate, good luck with all of it....it's quite the process!
Interim permits are normally made invalid on the day the NCLEX is taken; it is replaced either with a valid license number or....not, because none is to be issued. In California, I honestly don't know how this works, as it's not expected you'd get official notification of having received a license for several weeks. I imagine that your permit, in California's case, would still be valid until a BoN posting occurs?
At any rate, good luck with all of it....it's quite the process!
Thank you! Yes, it's the NCLEX-RN. I just dug around in the CA-BRN FAQs and found that once I get my ATT I can check to see if the IP has been issued on their license-verification site. And then if I pass the exam, the license listed will change to a permanent one (hopefully within a few days! please! ? ), and if I fail, it will vanish. So. I'm thinking about planning a road trip with my family for about five days after my exam to give me something else to think about. It'll be that or cleaning the house over and over... and I hate housework. ?
BreEze is a new system that CA has set up to deal with all Dept of Consumer Affairs license processing. It was REALLY new a year ago and the cohort from my program who graduated last May suffered for it -- some didn't get their ATTs until December. Supposedly they have worked out those kinks now. I hope so! ?
Just thought for five more seconds about this and realized what a pickle I'll be in if I get a job with my IPN and then fail the exam. Oops! Bye job! I am almost afraid to say this out loud (eek, my superstitious grandmother would whack me over the head) but I am somewhat confident about passing. I had a 4.0 in school, got As on all the tests, got a 99% likelihood of first-attempt passing on the ATI predictor, and in the qbanks I've been madly using I have an average of 75%-80% correct. But from all accounts you can't COUNT on these things to predict how the NCLEX will be and I want to KNOW. :-)
Meanwhile... going to go clean the house to keep myself from checking and rechecking all my email folders for the ATT. :-)
This entire extremely wearisome debate is predicated on the (apparently correct) assumption that today's NCLEX-takers are immature and won't delay gratification for 48-72 hours without freaking out, being terrified, and feeling brutalized. Therefore: Let's monetize their immaturity to our advantage! Yay! Free money! All because a substantial proportion of these people won't wait for something that is inevitable in a few days. A few days. A few days.
People, if you don't like somebody believing that you can be taken advantage of like this, then ... don't be. If you don't want people to think you are incapable of putting your self-interest ahead of a nearly futile anxiety, then ... don't give them evidence to the contrary. Remember the ads about texting and driving? It can wait.
It's gonna be a long, long career. A few days? Really?
Flamencoguy
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I don't see why they would refund the money. As you mentioned, they go through a process before they are actually charged. It is not like you can just accidentally click the button and say "Oops!." It seems like a "let the buyer beware" kind of scenario. I might have tried it myself if it was $20.00, but for $200.00...no way. It is not worth that amount of money for the piece of mind that really only comes when you see the quick results. I wasn't even happy then! I kept checking the BON website for my license number (which I got today!).