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DavidFR, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in Oncology, ID, Hepatology, Occy Health. Has 35 years experience.

2 hours ago, DesiDani said:

 

A male being sexually harassed by another male is still sexual harassment.

Agree, and so is a man being sexually harrassed by a woman.

In a past life I was an occupational health nurse for a large international organisation. A woman came for a blood test and I told her to take a seat and roll up her sleeve. I turned round from preparing my tubes and she had slipped off her one-piece dress and was stripped to bra and knickers. I was alone that morning so couldn't go and get a colleague to take over or witness. I told her that wasn't necessary and she could put her dress back on as I only needed her arm with the sleeve rolled up. 

Being openly gay, with an openly gay manager I had confidence in, I was quite confident that if there were any forthcoming allegations against me they probably wouldn't be taken seriously, however I felt very, very uncomfortable with her all the same.

When I recounted the incident later to our occy health doctor (male, heterosexual) he found it all a big joke and said he wished he'd been there. Therein lies the bigger problem - people not taking this issue seriously.

I realise women put up with this garbage all the time and what happened to me once happens frequently to many women over a lifetime.

 

0.9%NormalSarah, ADN, RN

Specializes in ICU. Has 2 years experience.

I actually just agree with them no matter who they’re talking about or what they say 🤣. It’s hilarious to me. Here are a few of my favorite responses:

”Oh wow I hadn’t heard that, so crazyyyy.” 

“Yeah I’m not a big fan, either.”

”Is that right? Oh wowww, yeah that’s so weird.”

”Oh no I don’t like that either.”

”People are just going to do what they’re going to do,” or another favorite, “yeah it is what it is.”

If they probe me for more of an opinion I just tell them I need to read up on the issue more and not sure I have a strong opinion. This policy hasn’t failed me in 6 years of working with patients.

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TheMoonisMyLantern, ADN, LPN, RN

Specializes in Mental health, substance abuse, geriatrics, PCU. Has 14 years experience.

For me it depends on the setting, in inpatient psych I may allow the person to vent a little bit or set limits depending on the patient, situation, and motivation of the conversation

When I work medical, due to customer satisfaction results being shoved down our throats I would feign doe eyed captivation while listening to their bull crap and doing whatever I needed to complete in the room. I don't argue, agree, or correct, I'm just a passive validating drone. Heck, I don't even correct patients when they get my gender wrong anymore, I just go with it so I can get my job done 😂

NutmeggeRN, BSN

Specializes in kids. Has 25 years experience.

I always say

"Welp, my momma always told me to never discuss politics and religion or money at the table...and I do the same at work!"

Davey Do

Specializes in around 25 years psych, 10 years medical. Has 42 years experience.

12 hours ago, DesiDani said:

Now men are getting a taste of it too

Too bad for us men.

In my four decade career, I never had to deal with a flirtatious female.

Not once.

I figured it was because women don't have hormones and never behave inappropriately.

10 hours ago, DavidFR said:

Agree, and so is a man being sexually harrassed by a woman.

In a past life I was an occupational health nurse for a large international organisation. A woman came for a blood test and I told her to take a seat and roll up her sleeve. I turned round from preparing my tubes and she had slipped off her one-piece dress and was stripped to bra and knickers. I was alone that morning so couldn't go and get a colleague to take over or witness. I told her that wasn't necessary and she could put her dress back on as I only needed her arm with the sleeve rolled up. 

Being openly gay, with an openly gay manager I had confidence in, I was quite confident that if there were any forthcoming allegations against me they probably wouldn't be taken seriously, however I felt very, very uncomfortable with her all the same.

When I recounted the incident later to our occy health doctor (male, heterosexual) he found it all a big joke and said he wished he'd been there. Therein lies the bigger problem - people not taking this issue seriously.

I realise women put up with this garbage all the time and what happened to me once happens frequently to many women over a lifetime.

 

Oh I believe you. A gay man being sexually harassed by another gay male is still the same. Same for lesbians too. Such complaints are not taken seriously by lgbt

38 minutes ago, Davey Do said:

Too bad for us men.

In my four decade career, I never had to deal with a flirtatious female.

Not once.

I figured it was because women don't have hormones and never behave inappropriately.

I wouldn't apply "never" to the actions of anyone. Women are humans not glowing saints. Women can act inappropriate.

Davey Do

Specializes in around 25 years psych, 10 years medical. Has 42 years experience.

7 minutes ago, DesiDani said:

 Women are humans not glowing saints. 

I'm having a case of cognitive dissonance here.

I have to go now.

50 minutes ago, NutmeggeRN said:

I always say

"Welp, my momma always told me to never discuss politics and religion or money at the table...and I do the same at work!"

I love this! Always my go to!

mmc51264, ADN, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in orthopedic; Informatics, diabetes. Has 9 years experience.

the only time I ever got ruffled/rattled was when I went to change a guy's gown and he had a giant swastika tattoo on his chest. He called me a J** Hippie because I have a Grateful Dead badge reel holder. 

You don’t. Just say “I don’t talk religion or politics at work.” Or just straight up say “hey, I’m really not comfortable discussing politics at work as it is unprofessional”.

11 hours ago, Davey Do said:

I'm having a case of cognitive dissonance here.

I have to go now.

I mean, don't deny me the right to be naughty😈

DavidFR, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in Oncology, ID, Hepatology, Occy Health. Has 35 years experience.

16 hours ago, DesiDani said:

Oh I believe you. A gay man being sexually harassed by another gay male is still the same. Same for lesbians too. Such complaints are not taken seriously by lgbt

It's not specific to LGBT. It's not taken seriously enough in all circles. If anything I would say many LGBT people are sensitive to this because of the homophobic abuse many of us have suffered.

On 1/12/2021 at 11:39 PM, DavidFR said:

It's not specific to LGBT. It's not taken seriously enough in all circles. If anything I would say many LGBT people are sensitive to this because of the homophobic abuse many of us have suffered.

True

NurseSpeedy, ADN, LPN, RN

Has 18 years experience.

On 1/11/2021 at 2:17 PM, KC,RN said:

OMG that might be the only thing worse!

Yeah, I had that for about 8 yrs straight with my first hospital nursing job. Doc admitted patient spent 9 out of 12 months in the hospital-most of it sympathy care for mother that would go MIA before discharge for close to a month. Every time I (or any woman) went in his room got the “am I gonna get lucky?” When we pulled the curtain or any other disgusting comments. Eventually it would turn into a 2 person change to avoid get grabbed. Politics in that room? Hell, bring it on! I’ll grin and nod to anything as long as you don’t try to touch or smell me!

3 hours ago, NurseSpeedy said:

Yeah, I had that for about 8 yrs straight with my first hospital nursing job. Doc admitted patient spent 9 out of 12 months in the hospital-most of it sympathy care for mother that would go MIA before discharge for close to a month. Every time I (or any woman) went in his room got the “am I gonna get lucky?” When we pulled the curtain or any other disgusting comments. Eventually it would turn into a 2 person change to avoid get grabbed. Politics in that room? Hell, bring it on! I’ll grin and nod to anything as long as you don’t try to touch or smell me!

That’s awful. As I got more experienced as a nurse I learned to say “I am a nurse and I am a professional, you are not allowed to touch me. I expect to be spoken to the same way I am speaking to you.” It doesn’t always work, but at least they get the drill when the see me if I keep repeating it.

All patients say crazy stuff doesn't matter what political side they are on. They first start by saying something sane then a few seconds later morph into full on rant! So sure it is nice to have that pep squad/choir for a few flitting moments until it gets kooky. You get that "something ain't right" with the patient in 290A vibe or you have a feeling that they aren't really saying anything in their eloquent political rants.

So I avoid ALL political talk even with those who may be on the same political side as me.

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