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What other reasons are you considering for this inexcusable behavior??

I'd love to know because I would definitely be leary about working with you!!

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He'd need a urology consult to remove his testicles from his throat if he tried that with me. I don't care if you are a doctor, the president, or the pope - if you come at me like that you will not take me out without a fight.

Alarm fatigue..... I'd give him some alarm fatigue.

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It doesn't matter. The nurses are the ones who know which beds (and monitors) are being readied for patients; a visiting anesthesiologist does not know. He had no business touching the danged monitors.

Not only this, but the excuse that he was turning the alarms off out of concern for alarm fatigue affecting the nurses? Yeah...sure. He seems like the kind of guy who would be super concerned about the well-being of the nursing staff. Sure.

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Someone who purports to be a nurse wrote the following comments on CBS Denver Facebook page:

Nothing like blaming the victim!

Plus, this person is just plain wrong!

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His reaction was basically "8,000 people sent me this news article so I guess I have to talk about it. Doctors shouldn't attack nurses. Okay? Now please stop forwarding it to me."

Apparently he didn't want to address it in the first place because he "didn't have anything to add" (which is what he told my friend when she sent it to him). Interesting response, since the guy seems to have an opinion about everything else.

:cautious:

When Doctors Attack! | Incident Report with Dr. Zubin Damania

Here is the link. Dog MD went on to say that he has nothing to say off the news report himself without further info... so if you're going to send the article you need to have more info. He did a video segment once he was contacted by other that work there and witnessed it. He goes on to talk about the things he was told lead to this (alarm fatigue and staffing ratios). but does say "we have to have a zero tolerance policy for this kind of thing. He shouldn't have been, it turns out there was some talk that even the higher-ups in the administration didn't even know this had happened until the next day. This needs to be a zero tolerance thing. I think that if you're committing a crime against your fellow human beings in a hospital, there's no level of hell that is hot enough for you, okay? "

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The NURSE was out of line?

Physicians should never be questioned? Where in the world did they FIND these morons?

Do people know how many wrong doses of medications I would have given if I didn't question physicians? or how many times the wrong knee may be operated on.. sponges left in a patient??

How about the podcast DR Death.. in which no-one questioned the credentials of a spine surgeon. He killed a bunch of people, everyone thought he was unsafe, turned out he wasn't even licensed.. but no one questioned him cause he was the physician.

We are part of a team... not a dictatorship.

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Yeah???

Let's see if he would choke out a DOC. Or a male nurse.

EXACTLY!!!

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So, let me get this straight. The physician was escorted from the property and his privileges revoked. So, when did calling the police happen in all of this and who actually called them? Judging from the article the hospital didn't do it and it should've been their responsibility. This person should've been arrested for felony assault on the spot. He should have been removed from the hospital in handcuffs. It's bad enough that nurses are under constant threat from patients and families but they shouldn't even have to think about it from a coworker. I find the whole situation appalling. I don't care if this person has no criminal record. He needs to do time. This is far more serious than simple assault. This is actually attempted murder.

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Do people know how many wrong doses of medications I would have given if I didn't question physicians? or how many times the wrong knee may be operated on.. sponges left in a patient??

We are part of a team... not a dictatorship.

Yes! Do you know what the doctors in my hospital do when I question them? They explain why their order is correct, and I learn something. Or they realize their order was wrong, and they change it. Often they THANK me for catching it.

Sometimes it's an intern or resident who doesn't think through the whole picture, but other times it's a veteran doctor who double orders a med without realizing it (and pharmacy somehow lets it through) or even an attending who is thinking of one patient while he or she has the chart open for another patient and the right order is entered for the wrong patient.

Not that it happens all the time, but often enough that a big part of my job is making sure the orders I'm carrying out make sense for the patient.

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Someone who purports to be a nurse wrote the following comments on CBS Denver Facebook page:

Nothing like blaming the victim!

If he's really the "nicest person," he wouldn't strangle someone. Period.

Nice people don't assault others. They sure as hell don't strangle them for "questioning" them or telling them not to turn off monitors. In fact, you could call them all sorts of colorful names in profane language that would get me asterisked on this board, and defame their mother's honor, and they still wouldn't strangle you. Call security, maybe, but I don't work with any doctors who would resort to physical violence short of actual self defense.

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So, let me get this straight. The physician was escorted from the property and his privileges revoked. So, when did calling the police happen in all of this and who actually called them? Judging from the article the hospital didn't do it and it should've been their responsibility. This person should've been arrested for felony assault on the spot. He should have been removed from the hospital in handcuffs. It's bad enough that nurses are under constant threat from patients and families but they shouldn't even have to think about it from a coworker. I find the whole situation appalling. I don't care if this person has no criminal record. He needs to do time. This is far more serious than simple assault. This is actually attempted murder.

In the first articles it says he was escorted, but later people that were there (including a patient that videoed it on their phone) spoke with Dog MD and he reported that the anesthesiologist just walked away and left... that the admins didn't even find out about it until the next day.

I find that disturbing.. that no-one on the unit felt it should be reported... or maybe they didn't think reporting it would make a difference... either way the culture is showing here.

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