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3 hours ago, heron said:

Now Trump is alleging that evidence was planted. Seems like there would be video of agents carrying stuff into the building. Once again, awaiting actual evidence.

Come to think of it, isn’t this the same technique he used in the 2020 campaign? He was kvetching about a rigged election from the beginning of his campaign. I guess he figures if it almost worked once, he’ll give it another shot.

Basic prep work.

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4 hours ago, Beerman said:

How soon you forget that his opposing presidential candidate weaponized govt agencies to try and tank his campaign. 

Then, Democrats used that false narrative to try undermine his presidency.   

And, we all know the media was all to willing to participate in both.

I'd say he was the victim in all that. 

And, btw, more Americans, still thought he was doing a better job than the stooge in office now.

Oh yeah...Obama weaponized the DOJ with the "lock him up" chants at his campaign rallies. Then Obama made it look like Trump team members met with or spoke to Russian operatives hundreds of times during the campaign.  

Then after the election Trump's DOJ assigned Durham the job of finding that false narrative... he failed miserably,  finding one case that he lost in court. 

Yeah, the media reported on the facts and the facts make Trump look bad but looking bad doesn't make Trump a victim... unless he's a victim of his own bad choices. 

And BTW, more people thought Trump was a terrible and dangerous president and voted for the fellow currently occupying the white house... did you miss that detail or do you believe that Trump got more votes?

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The Inflation Reduction Act will make most of the current EV's ineligible for the tax credit for purchasing a EV.

Well done, Democrats. 

"But… as currently written, the material, component and assembly requirements in the Clean Vehicle Credit will immediately reduce (by a lot) the number of qualifying electric vehicles available to consumers for purchase with the tax credit.

Here’s what I mean: there are 72 EV models currently available for purchase in the United States including battery, plug-in hybrid and fuel cell electric vehicles. Seventy percent of those EVs would immediately become ineligible when the bill passes and none would qualify for the full credit when additional sourcing requirements go into effect. Zero.

Put another way, Americans who would otherwise receive the credit today (say, the family test driving a car this weekend and on the fence about whether to make the switch to an EV) will no longer be able to take advantage of this financial incentive to purchase an EV. The $7500 credit might exist on paper, but no vehicles will qualify for this purchase incentive over the next few years. That’s going to be a major setback to our collective target of 40-50 percent electric vehicle sales by 2030."

https://www.autosinnovate.org/posts/blog/what-if-no-evs-qualify-for-the-ev-tax-credit

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2 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Well done, Democrats. 

"But… as currently written, the material, component and assembly requirements in the Clean Vehicle Credit will immediately reduce (by a lot) the number of qualifying electric vehicles available to consumers for purchase with the tax credit.

Here’s what I mean: there are 72 EV models currently available for purchase in the United States including battery, plug-in hybrid and fuel cell electric vehicles. Seventy percent of those EVs would immediately become ineligible when the bill passes and none would qualify for the full credit when additional sourcing requirements go into effect. Zero.

Put another way, Americans who would otherwise receive the credit today (say, the family test driving a car this weekend and on the fence about whether to make the switch to an EV) will no longer be able to take advantage of this financial incentive to purchase an EV. The $7500 credit might exist on paper, but no vehicles will qualify for this purchase incentive over the next few years. That’s going to be a major setback to our collective target of 40-50 percent electric vehicle sales by 2030."

https://www.autosinnovate.org/posts/blog/what-if-no-evs-qualify-for-the-ev-tax-credit

And your point?

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Yep...sourcing is an issue...national security plays a part in how dependent we want our economy to be on other countries...like China. Surely those who chant America First can appreciate that strategy. 

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24 minutes ago, heron said:

And your point?

Just informing the uninformed.

I guess if there is a point to be taken, it's that Democrats often propose policies that sound good, but then those policies are implemented without any consideration to the actual consequences.

In this case, the tax credit is intended to make EV's more affordable and at the same time fight climate change.  But, then 70% of the EV's become ineligible for the tax credit the day the law is in effect.  That seems to go against what they are trying to accomplish.

The industry expert who wrote the above opinion piece offered alternative ideas to help accomplish the same objectives.  Were people like him consulted before writing this legislation?

Maybe since inflation is now zero, per President Biden, the "Inflation Reduction Act" is no longer needed.

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2 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Just informing the uninformed.

I guess if there is a point to be taken, it's that Democrats often propose policies that sound good, but then those policies are implemented without any consideration to the actual consequences.

In this case, the tax credit is intended to make EV's more affordable and at the same time fight climate change.  But, then 70% of the EV's become ineligible for the tax credit the day the law is in effect.  That seems to go against what they are trying to accomplish.

The industry expert who wrote the above opinion piece offered alternative ideas to help accomplish the same objectives.  Were people like him consulted before writing this legislation?

Maybe since inflation is now zero, per President Biden, the "Inflation Reduction Act" is no longer needed.

So, your notion of how to shift away from fossil fuels is that it needs to be both easy and cheap, with little to no adverse effect on consumers? Sorry, that ship sailed decades ago. 

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6 minutes ago, heron said:

So, your notion of how to shift away from fossil fuels is that it needs to be both easy and cheap, with little to no adverse effect on consumers? Sorry, that ship sailed decades ago. 

No, that's not what I said.  Although, if you want people on electric cars, the electrical cars do need to be affordable. 

One is beyond hope and logic if they can't see the idiocy of having a tax credit to incentivize the purchase of EV's while at the same time making most of the EV's ineligible for it.

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11 minutes ago, heron said:

So, your notion of how to shift away from fossil fuels is that it needs to be both easy and cheap, with little to no adverse effect on consumers? Sorry, that ship sailed decades ago. 

Actually, after reconsideration, yes.  Fossil fuels alternatives do need to be affordable and convenient.

If I wanted to, right now I could hop into my gas powered vehicle and go about 500 miles.  At which time, I'd have no problem finding a refueling station.  

For the EV equivalent vehicle, I can go about half that distance (assuming im fully charged to start with),  then have to find a recharging station, and then wait for the battery to recharge.  This, after initially shelling out an extra several thousand dollars to purchase the EV.

It's no competition, at the present time.  I'll stick with my gas vehicle.

Your notion on how to shift away from fossil fuels is to throw the free market to the wayside, and force manufacturers to produce EV's and force consumers to buy them. 

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1 minute ago, Beerman said:

No, that's not what I said.  Although, if you want people on electric cars, the electrical cars do need to be affordable. 

One is beyond hope and logic if they can't see the idiocy of having a tax credit to incentivize the purchase of EV's while at the same time making most of the EV's ineligible for it.

So, maybe they should make better EVs?

Yes, I know that you didn’t say anything about shifting to renewable energy. My point is that in the 50 years I’ve been following this debate, the first objection to any proposal is always that it is either too inconvenient, too hard on the economy or too expensive. Then the denialists went back to waving snowballs around on the floor of congress while approving billions in subsidies for the hydrocarbon industries.

There is not now nor has there ever been an easy fix for climate change. The longer we kow tow to the auto and hydrocarbon industries, the more difficult and destructive the change will be.

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3 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Actually, after reconsideration, yes.  Fossil fuels alternatives do need to be affordable and convenient.

If I wanted to, right now I could hop into my gas powered vehicle and go about 500 miles.  At which time, I'd have no problem finding a refueling station.  

For the EV equivalent vehicle, I can go about half that distance (assuming im fully charged to start with),  then have to find a recharging station, and then wait for the battery to recharge.  This, after initially shelling out an extra several thousand dollars to purchase the EV.

It's no competition, at the present time.  I'll stick with my gas vehicle.

Your notion on how to shift away from fossil fuels is to throw the free market to the wayside, and force manufacturers to produce EV's and force consumers to buy them. 

 No … my notion of how to shift away from fossil fuels is, among other things, to ban private automobiles.   Nevah happen, but a girl can dream …

My heart isn’t bleeding … the fact is, the longer you wait, the harder and more expensive it’s gonna be.

 

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29 minutes ago, heron said:

 No … my notion of how to shift away from fossil fuels is, among other things, to ban private automobiles.   Nevah happen, but a girl can dream …

My heart isn’t bleeding … the fact is, the longer you wait, the harder and more expensive it’s gonna be.

 

Do you know what the GOP plan or ideas for moving away from Fossil fuels include? 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/05/climate/republican-treasurers-climate-change.html

 

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