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30 minutes ago, Tweety said:

At the end of the day none of this matters as Democrats bid for change in voting rights died on arrival.  Biden pretty much seems like a lame duck president at this point especially with the general bad mood of the country over inflation, Coronavirus and other issues, which I don't think has been this bad since the crash of 2008.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/01/joe-bidens-agenda-might-really-be-dead.html

And, still know one has said how any of these laws are aimed at keeping Democrats from voting.  Except for our brief discussion about mail in ballots during the pandemic.

Muno even backed down from his original assertion, and then said the new laws hurt hourly workers. I don't agree.  But do we even know that hourly workers tend to vote Democrat?

Biden is very close if not already a lame duck.  I still think they'll try to get something before midterms.  But, after that, it's all over.  I also think after midterms you'll start hearing about the 25th Amendment being invoked.  Or, he'll simply resign.

 

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22 minutes ago, Tweety said:

At the end of the day none of this matters as Democrats bid for change in voting rights died on arrival.  Biden pretty much seems like a lame duck president at this point especially with the general bad mood of the country over inflation, Coronavirus and other issues, which I don't think has been this bad since the crash of 2008.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/01/joe-bidens-agenda-might-really-be-dead.html

There's not much that a president can do about a congress populated with people who show little interest in governing through legislation for We the People.  

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2 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

There's not much that a president can do about a congress populated with people who show little interest in governing through legislation for We the People.  

We the People don't have confidence in the current President, as evidenced by his dismal approval ratings.  And, don't have any interest in the Democrat agenda, as the midterms shellacking will show.

 

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5 minutes ago, Beerman said:

And, still know one has said how any of these laws are aimed at keeping Democrats from voting.  Except for our brief discussion about mail in ballots during the pandemic.

Muno even backed down from his original assertion, and then said the new laws hurt hourly workers. I don't agree.  But do we even know that hourly workers tend to vote Democrat?

Biden is very close if not already a lame duck.  I still think they'll try to get something before midterms.  But, after that, it's all over.  I also think after midterms you'll start hearing about the 25th Amendment being invoked.

 

Yes...we have provided articles outlining how citizens could be disenfranchised by the new laws and Muno has wasted via time outlining some concerns specifically.  The important part is that there is no reason to change any of the laws...the last presidential election was the most secure in our history yet people use nonexistent voter fraud add the rationale. 

It doesn't matter if more hourly voters lean democrat when they vote.  Their vote shouldn't be obstructed in any way by purely partisan laws, goals and agendas.  

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2 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yes...we have provided articles outlining how citizens could be disenfranchised by the new laws and Muno has wasted via time outlining some concerns specifically.  The important part is that there is no reason to change any of the laws...the last presidential election was the most secure in our history yet people use nonexistent voter fraud add the rationale. 

It doesn't matter if more hourly voters lean democrat when they vote.  Their vote shouldn't be obstructed in any way by purely partisan laws, goals and agendas.  

It does matter.  It's been asserted that the laws target specific groups of people.  That is the main argument of Democrats.  The only reasoning given here is how it might effect hourly workers.  Why would Republicans be wanting to disenfranchise hourly workers and suppress their vote?

Their vote isn't being obstructed, anyway.  In Texas, for example, they'll have 9 hours per day, for 11 days, of early voting. 

If voting is important to them, there is plenty of opportunity to get it done. 

 

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34 minutes ago, Beerman said:

We the People don't have confidence in the current President, as evidenced by his dismal approval ratings.  And, don't have any interest in the Democrat agenda, as the midterms shellacking will show.

 

We the People have less confidence in Trump and the midterms have yet to occur.  There's lots of time before that voting happens.  

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1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

We the People have less confidence in Trump and the midterms have yet to occur.  There's lots of time before that voting happens.  

I'm not sure what Trump has to do with it, and probably not a true statement at this point.  But if it makes you feel better...

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25 minutes ago, Beerman said:

It does matter.  It's been asserted that the laws target specific groups of people.  That is the main argument of Democrats.  The only reasoning given here is how it might effect hourly workers.  Why would Republicans be wanting to disenfranchise hourly workers and suppress their vote?

Their vote isn't being obstructed, anyway.  In Texas, for example, they'll have 9 hours per day, for 11 days, of early voting. 

If voting is important to them, there is plenty of opportunity to get it done. 

 

Yes. The laws target poor communities and communities of color.  The articles outlined this reality.  It's not clear why you want to continue to imply that it's about limiting voting rights of democrats. 

Yeah.  Texas apparently felt a need to cut back on that voting access in order to make the elections more secure or safer...as if that makes sense. 

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3 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I'm not sure what Trump has to do with it, and probably not a true statement at this point.  But if it makes you feel better...

It was a relevant as your speculation about the 25th Amendment.  Trump was the fellow that we were so desperate to replace that we voted for Biden...that's how he's relevant. 

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5 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yes. The laws target poor communities and communities of color.  The articles outlined this reality.  It's not clear why you want to continue to imply that it's about limiting voting rights of democrats. 

Yeah.  Texas apparently felt a need to cut back on that voting access in order to make the elections more secure or safer...as if that makes sense. 

Ahh...progress.  Actually, the articles didn't.  And I'm certainly not implying any such thing.  It's not clear why you would think I'm implying the laws target anyone. 

So, since you're the only one here who has claimed they target poor communities and people of color, could you be more specific as to which laws and how they target those groups?

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6 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yes. The laws target poor communities and communities of color.  The articles outlined this reality.  It's not clear why you want to continue to imply that it's about limiting voting rights of democrats. 

Yeah.  Texas apparently felt a need to cut back on that voting access in order to make the elections more secure or safer...as if that makes sense. 

"if voting is important, there us plenty of opportunity to get it done"  Duh.  I worked 16 and 24 hour shifts. I shouldn't have to stand in line to vote (gee, what time do I have to get there) before driving to a 16? I was in the road at 6 am to commute to my 24 hr shift.  When should I vote then?  It's the 22nd century.  If the IRS us planning to set up a secure ID system using computers and cells phones, We The People should have the same ability .  Hey, I thought even Texas has technology:).  

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

And, still know one has said how any of these laws are aimed at keeping Democrats from voting.  Except for our brief discussion about mail in ballots during the pandemic.

Muno even backed down from his original assertion, and then said the new laws hurt hourly workers. I don't agree.  But do we even know that hourly workers tend to vote Democrat?

Biden is very close if not already a lame duck.  I still think they'll try to get something before midterms.  But, after that, it's all over.  I also think after midterms you'll start hearing about the 25th Amendment being invoked.  Or, he'll simply resign.

 

I hadn't realized I had "backed down", although I did neglect to include that those less able to participate in traditional in-person / short duration voting are those in urban or at least non-rural areas.  And yes, voters of lower-mid to lower socioeconomic status in non-rural areas are overwhelming Democratic voters.

I don't really agree that trying to facilitate the ability to vote is just a tit-for-tat compared to trying to keep people from voting.

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