What constitutes violating a patient rights in surgery?

Batman25 · Apr 10, 2011

Seems like you were written up and threatened with termination. I wouldn't have done either here and I certainly wouldn't have reported you to the board. What you said wasn't done in a malicious way but it was an unwise place to go. I would have talked to you privately about setting proper boundaries in and out of the OR. Consider this a lesson learned and move on. I wouldn't even go the HR route. Just let it go. That's sometimes all you can do.

Chin up · Apr 11, 2011

Telling OP not to worry about being offensive if she came here with a concern is naive.
Re: being gay - it is still very disturbing to lots of people, as another poster stated. Many homosexuals still, I think, keep this information very private, so as not to be verbally or physically attacked.
We haven't progressed as far as we need to in accepting other people with whom we share the world. I doubt we ever will.
OP, just simply refrain from discussing anything but the weather and what you had for breakfast and you'll be sfe. Seriously, we all must be totally on guard all the time these days. Everyone is very, very sensitive. Some are overly so. All are entitled to common courtesy and respect for their attributes, whether we agree with them or not, whether we like or don't like who and what someone might think, feel, believe, or do. Often, silence is the best course of action.

Your opinion, fine. But I so disagree with everything you wrote and stand for. There is nothing naive about what I wrote to the OP. I stand by it, you don't keep silent to maintain the status quo. We have a constitutional right called free speech and I'll be damned if someone is going to trample on it.( I mean you, not OP) I even qualified what I said, by stating,"if it was not malicious," the constitution does not. And are you telling me, professional nurses cannot discuss or should not hear about gays? Now who is naive. Then you go on and tell her to discuss the weather or breakfast, are you for real? I don't care who accepts gays and who does not, what does that have to do with anything? Check yourself little sister, if you can't be authentic, then why bother being. Peace!

Trauma Columnist · Apr 11, 2011

Let's try to stay on topic. OP. I have to confess that since you seem have erased much of your post, it makes little sense now.

BabyLady, BSN, RN · Apr 11, 2011

Where can you go to find out exactly what are reportable offenses to the board of nursing? Is talking about a patient while asleep in surgery a reportable offense to the board of nursing? i.e patient's body/anatomy size, sexuality, employment, etc.

Unprofessional? Yes.

If I was the OR manager, a write-up for being disrespectful to the patient? Yes.

Reportable to the Board of Nursing? Heck no.

taalyn_1, CNA · Apr 11, 2011

You know what, people talk about a lot of things in those situations. I dont think your comments on the pt's sexuality or anatomy or whatever should be reported to the BON, but maybe a verbal warning to keep it professional would be more appropriate.

Side note: Homosexuality is still looked down on by a majority of americans, sad but true. Comments (positive or negative) can be misconstrued and offend a co-worker who may be closeted, has family that is gay or is anti-gay for that matter. Best just to leave those comments in your head and move on..

Isabelle49 · Apr 11, 2011

Nothing but what concerns the procedure should be discussed. Some anesthetized persons can still hear you. This from my own experience.

elkpark · Apr 11, 2011

Your opinion, fine. But I so disagree with everything you wrote and stand for. There is nothing naive about what I wrote to the OP. I stand by it, you don't keep silent to maintain the status quo. We have a constitutional right called free speech and I'll be damned if someone is going to trample on it.( I mean you, not OP) I even qualified what I said, by stating,"if it was not malicious," the constitution does not. And are you telling me, professional nurses cannot discuss or should not hear about gays? Now who is naive. Then you go on and tell her to discuss the weather or breakfast, are you for real? I don't care who accepts gays and who does not, what does that have to do with anything? Check yourself little sister, if you can't be authentic, then why bother being. Peace!

Our constitutional right to free speech means that the government can't limit or censor what we say -- our employers certainly can and do. There are many things I might say at work that would get me fired. The workplace, serving the general public, is not the place for casual comments on politically and/or socially sensitive subjects.

Chin up · Apr 12, 2011

Our constitutional right to free speech means that the government can't limit or censor what we say -- our employers certainly can and do. There are many things I might say at work that would get me fired. The workplace, serving the general public, is not the place for casual comments on politically and/or socially sensitive subjects.

I was talking about this board, not work. I still don't know what the poster said as it was deleted. But, reread my reply, it had nothing to do with her comments at work. It was a response to a particular poster on this board. Get it?

Horseshoe, BSN, RN · Apr 12, 2011

Well, we have no constitutional right to free speech on a message board either. The rules of this board determine what can be said-if it breaks the TOS, it will be removed.