Published Jan 31, 2015
sauce
178 Posts
So i have been scavenging this website for a while now. It always seems to have the same complaint on the forums regarding nurse practitioners. I can't find a job.†What are your hoursâ€
How stressful is your jobâ€
How much do you get paidâ€
How much vacation time do you getâ€
How do you deal with difficult patientsâ€
Once i see somebody ask those questions, I already know why they can't find a job.
YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE EASY
What is the easy you say?
It is doing what takes the least amount of effort to obtain the outcomes you want.
It is going to be a difficult market for many nurse practitioners in the future. This i can say due to the easiness they have made it to get a license. Unfortunately they have removed almost all barriers in regards to obtaining a license to pass rx medicine.
Online, part-time, from your own home, set up your own clinical, pay this and that money and you obtain a masters degree, etc etc.
THE EASY
I do not see many posts regarding, how people can make themselves stand out and land an awesome 6 figure job straight out of his or her program. I just see people wanting the EASY.
So step off of your soap boxes for a few minutes and take a listen, and also take a step into the DIFFICULT.
What is the DIFFICULT?
The difficult is what you don't want to do. Thats right. This is going to SUCK. At least for starters it will.
Step one- pick up and economics text book and read the entire thing this week. Okay?
Did you do it? if not you might as well sit back and continue with the easy, because you don't want to do whats hard in order to RISE ABOVE THE EPICUREANS. Don't know what epicureans are? READ YOUR ECONOMICS TEXTBOOK
.
Okay now that you should have read the textbook you are ready to move on. Do you know what you are doing wrong?
No?
WELL YOU DID NOT READ THE ECONOMICS TEXTBOOK THEN GO BACK AND READ IT NOW.
You are doing what everybody else is doing what is what is wrong. What is everybody else doing?
Applying for jobs online
slacking during clinical
not studying more than they need to
focusing on stuff that does not matter
watching grey's anatomy
going to the easiest and nearest clinical site
not asking preceptors or instructors questions
not ‘networking'
not trying to understand the business of medicine
complaining about not having a job
not walking into offices dropping off your resume in person
not asking business questions to preceptors
not focusing on how the clinics you precept at make more money
not learning other skills besides nurse-practitionering
not reading non-fiction books
not realizing that nobody gives two craps about your previous RN experience
not acting like you want to learn
acting like you already know enough
not realizing that nobody gives even one and a half craps about your nursing research besides the phd teacher in your program
not being persistent
not being willing to move in order to find a job
not reading the economics textbook i told you to read 10 minutes ago
not realizing that advanced practice nursing is not advanced practice nursing
posting selfies on Facebook in your lab coat
going to for profit online programs
thinking about what your job can do for you instead of thinking about what you can do for the company you work for.
not doing things differently
thinking you will have your dream job out of school
Fortunately below i am going to tell you how to succeed and make 6 figures right out of your program like i did without being any smarter or gifted than anybody else.
Just do the opposite of what it stated above and you will be rolling in the dough.
Look for the hardest job
look for the job everybody quit from and apply to it
understand leverage
understand there are more than two options. quitting and staying are not the only two options you have at a job.
do what everybody else doesn't want to do
make yourself like it
be stoic
I did just that and made 165000 last year working 43 hours a week with full benefits. working 7 days on 7 days off nightshift. And i have only been an fnp one year. Right now I'm enjoying my 4th vacation this year since i always get 7 days off.
And i am no smarter than you are. I just followed the above advice
GOODLUCK
Jules A, MSN
8,864 Posts
We totally agree on at least one thing. FWIW my first job out of NP school was $80 an hour, day shift M-F, so I must have done something right.
anh06005, MSN, APRN, NP
1 Article; 769 Posts
I will say I do wish I had asked more about the business side of things. I had the perfect opportunity with one of my preceptors who actually owned and ran the clinic. Unfortunately that was my first semester so I was more worried about choosing the right antibiotic, etc.
I must agree with your list, though. For me I was willing to limit myself in geographical area but I (thankfully) found a job with 80K salary (in a rural area with low cost of living) and bonus potential with other good benefits in a care area I was OKAY with doing. Not my dream job...partly because primary care (the job I start Monday) is a bit intimidating to me. I do think I will enjoy it quite a bit and hopefully stay in for the long haul once I get over the intimidation factor.
My point for my rant is that if you do all that's listed above you will get a job that pays very well. May not be a dream job. May be hard. But sometimes you have to decide what's more important than just money. For me that was location and I was ok with that.
You can't have it all.
guest769224
1,698 Posts
How would that possibly help "roll in the dough"? I think charisma would be better suited.
And your post in August states you made 150k last year working 52 hours per week. That's a big difference from what you're telling us now.
And you are on your 4th vacation this year, and we have only had 4 weeks of 2015 so far? How does that work?
They cut our hours and gave us a bonus. I did calculate it out to about 43 though so the latter is correct
2015
140 Posts
sauce, I have a high student debt.....I will call on you when the times comes if I don't get a HRSA job.
traumaRUs, MSN, APRN
88 Articles; 21,268 Posts
@sauce - glad you are happy with your choice.
I've been an APN for 9 years now and while I agree with you to some extent, I still see much progress being made in the APN world.
Knowing business and the especially the business of medicine is paramount for landing a solid job and continuing to get solid raises.
babyNP., APRN
1,923 Posts
I'm not sure why you consider it easy to get clinical sites during a NP program.
I personally think it's one of the greatest tragedies in NP education right now that students are supposed to set up their own.
Additionally- there may be a reason why people are quitting a job and I don't understand why people quitting a job left and right should be an incentive for you to stay there. If I'm going to spend 40 hours a week at a job, I hope I'm going to like it. Life is too short to stay stuck in a career that you hate.
automotiveRN67
130 Posts
I'm not sure why you consider it easy to get clinical sites during a NP program. I personally think it's one of the greatest tragedies in NP education right now that students are supposed to set up their own.Additionally- there may be a reason why people are quitting a job and I don't understand why people quitting a job left and right should be an incentive for you to stay there. If I'm going to spend 40 hours a week at a job, I hope I'm going to like it. Life is too short to stay stuck in a career that you hate.
Your comment is truth in failure. NP programs are only designed for one purpose: generate cash for the university. Period. There are those who will have the connections to set up clinical hours, like I did, and those who mope around and hope someone will help them out.
There is no free lunch in this career. You have to make connections, market yourself, prove your worth, and do more than the next guy.
This is not a 40 hour per week career. Maybe someday. But in the beginning, you generally have to give a lot.
Anyone who thinks it's a tragedy that online schools don't provide clinical hours, and that this should be a 40 hour per week career should stay in nursing. They do that for you there.
Edit - I currently work a 40 hour week in a job that requires only that. But....I take call one or two weekends a month for extra cash, I moonlight by reading stress tests, and I see nursing home patients in the evenings, for extra cash.
I don't understand why people complain about schools not setting up clinicals. You should research that before going there. Mine set mine up if needed. If you don't like it don't shop there. I don't like certain retailers so I don't go there to buy my food then go to a forum and complain about it. I shop somewhere else.
If if the only school somebody can get into doesn't find clinicals for you. Retake some classes and get into a real program .
Sounds harsh but we live in a harsh world.
ghillbert, MSN, NP
3,796 Posts
That's not why people can't find a job. Anyone can find a job. They just can't find the one they want in the area they want. People want different things in a job. If earning the most amount of money is your goal, then sure - go for a job no one else wants and good for you.
Me, I took a job in the specialty I wanted to work in, with the team I wanted to work with. My nursing experience of 15 years was very specialized and is why the position was created for me, so it was most definitely relevant. I prefer to stand out from the crowd by being clinically excellent, rather than reading an economics textbook.