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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6
QuoteAccording to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
16 hours ago, HiddenAngels said:Where did this get personal. I was responding to Tweety's post about the Obama, sorry conservatists development of the Tea Party. I'm not sure where you're fitting yourself in at.
You made a comment in a discussion in which I was a participant.
And, that comment you made was that any criticism of Obama is racially motivated. I was simply clarifying.
38 minutes ago, Beerman said:You read the report already and have formed opinion about it?
Did you?
Is there a specific bit of the document that you want to highlight for discussion?
My point stands and it's not surprising that a republican the caliber of Jim Jordan is an author of this contention that conservatives are victims.
1 hour ago, Beerman said:You made a comment in a discussion in which I was a participant.
And, that comment you made was that any criticism of Obama is racially motivated. I was simply clarifying.
But is that what she said, really?
1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:2 hours ago, Beerman said:You made a comment in a discussion in which I was a participant.
And, that comment you made was that any criticism of Obama is racially motivated. I was simply clarifying.
But is that what she said, really?
Based on what was said here, I would have to say that yes, that is what she said.
On 11/2/2022 at 2:13 PM, HiddenAngels said:On 10/31/2022 at 10:48 PM, Tweety said:Fair enough and I think people threw out the race card a bit much.
But I don't buy into the idea that four years of being labeled caused them to be divisive and angry. They were angry from the get go and weren't shy about expressing any opposition to Obama even if some people called him racist. The immediate rise of the Tea Party is testament to that. I understand their opposition wasn't racially motivated in most cases but it was harsh. Obamacare and "stimulus" became dirty words.
Laying the blame for divisiveness at Obama's feet and his supporters alone doesn't ring true to me. Both parties were involved.
It was racially motivated. Period
Just now, chare said:Based on what was said here, I would have to say that yes, that is what she said.
Thank you.
And, I've asked her twice to clarify if that's what she meant.
1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:But is that what she said, really?
It seems you be.
Isn't that what you've said, as well?
1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:Did you?
Is there a specific bit of the document that you want to highlight for discussion?
No, I haven't read it. I simply posted the story in the "what caught your attention" thread. I didn't include any opinion.
1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:My point stands and it's not surprising that a republican the caliber of Jim Jordan is an author of this contention that conservatives are victims.
No, not surprising. So, what? Shall we wait around for Democrats to hold these folks acoountable?
35 minutes ago, chare said:Based on what was said here, I would have to say that yes, that is what she said.
Yep. Seems so.
Individual beef with policy is different. One cannot deny, however, the racist nature of the non policy criticisms and caricatures of the Obama’s and the rise in racist organization membership and activity. The FBI noticed.
It's not okay to try to imply that because a member here can articulate a policy difference that the racists weren't inflamed by Obama's presidency in very public ways.
39 minutes ago, Beerman said:Thank you.
And, I've asked her twice to clarify if that's what she meant.
It seems you be.
Isn't that what you've said, as well?
Nope.
I have said that racists were very inflamed by the Obama presidency and they became more publicly animated. White supremacy/ racists groups have long been a violent concern in this country. There have been articles and data posted to support this already. It's established fact at this point, right?
Republicans largely ignored that and played with racist groups to gain votes. Trump fully embraced racist groups. He united them with other right wing groups giving them common or shared grievances. This is exactly what right wing authoritarians did almost 100 years ago in Germany.
Have you tried to imply that racism wasn't really an issue during Obama's presidency, or now?
44 minutes ago, Beerman said:No, I haven't read it. I simply posted the story in the "what caught your attention" thread. I didn't include any opinion.
No, not surprising. So, what? Shall we wait around for Democrats to hold these folks acoountable?
It's odd then that you seem to have some expectations that I would read the document and comment upon THAT content when you didn't think that was necessary. Is odd the correct word? Maybe not.
Accountability. Sure, let's have some of that. Let's start with the important accountability first, like accountability for trying to undermine the peaceful transfer of power to retain the presidency and theft of top secret documents. Is that an important area of accountability for you? Do you think that if Republicans take control of Congress that they will try to impede that accountability?
4 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:It's odd then that you seem to have some expectations that I would read the document and comment upon THAT content when you didn't think that was necessary
You seem to be quick to dismiss the report. So I would have expected that maybe you read it.
9 minutes ago, Beerman said:You seem to be quick to dismiss the report. So I would have expected that maybe you read it.
You seemed quick to accept it, yet you didn't read it before presenting it to us. I would have expected that you might have, especially if you want to make a thing over someone responding to your post without reading what you didn't read.
Do you think that if Republicans take control of Congress that they will try to impede that accountability for Trump?
1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:Yep. Seems so.
Individual beef with policy is different. One cannot deny, however, the racist nature of the non policy criticisms and caricatures of the Obama’s and the rise in racist organization membership and activity. The FBI noticed.
It's not okay to try to imply that because a member here can articulate a policy difference that the racists weren't inflamed by Obama's presidency in very public ways.
To clear this up once again. I was not specifically talking about YOU BEERMAN. I was commenting on Tweety's post about the development of the TEA PARTY. Did you develop it? No? Then I was not talking about you. If you want to continue to ask me in other roundabout ways or if Chare wants to get involved in something that she now seems to not understand, it's Friday the start of the weekend. let it go already...
Beerman I don't know you but I have to believe what you say when you said you didn't like Obama's presidency and it was not because he was black.
Hope this helps.
Beerman, BSN
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You read the report already and have formed opinion about it?