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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news.  I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.

https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6

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According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.

Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.

The arrested the guy the next day. 

What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there. 

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6 hours ago, Beerman said:

You have been very defensive about the narrative that Democrats want open borders.  From a compassion point of view, and to use less resources enforcing the border, it seems you would want open borders.  What am I missing?

Yes, I have been annoyed with the idea that "Biden wants an open border" which contradicts the reality of over 2.4 million arrests.  

My friend in El Paso, who is really a friend of my best friend, was visiting recently, and asked about the border.  I have noticed it's much more busy than usual.  But again it's not anything that affects her personally day to day nor enough for her to switch to Republican to crack down on the border.

I didn't mean to say I want open borders by cutting expenses there.  I merely said the cost is concerning and that I have no easy answers for it.   

I have long acknowledged that migration has increased during the Biden administration and that it's a mess.  There might be people that just want to open the border and let whomever they want just walk right in and get free stuff but that's a fringe.  Biden doesn't want this, I don't want that, and I'd venture to say the majority of liberal persons don't want that.

You asked my concerns and I answered.  You didn't asked what I think are the solutions and I don't think it's an open border, but also to clarify again that I said I don't have any answers.   I don't know what you're missing.

I can't say I approve of states going rogue to make a point such as Florida shipping people to Mass to keep them out of Florida.  That is a misuse of my money and not necessary.

 

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7 hours ago, Beerman said:

Why?  The 100 who are in there now aren't exactly doing a bang up job.

Nor were they when Obama was there.

Polls now, and back then, back me up on that.

Its silly to knock on someone's lack of qualifications when at the same time most of us agree we should get rid of most of the ones who currently hold the job.

Qualifications aren't important to you? It's clear that you can't improve the quality of performance in Congress by electing unqualified people. 

7 hours ago, Beerman said:

Maybe relatively tame. But, I think the point was both sides spit out vitriol at the other.  In this case, it's the beloved Obama.  You all claim Obama, and then Biden, work so hard to unite us.  The reality is, the things they say are just as divisive as anyone else, including Trump.

Most, if not all of, the political ads I've heard recently have nothing to do with what good a candidate can do.  It's all about how evil the other side is.  And Democrats are just as guilty as Republicans. 

Which part of Obama’s speech was vitriolic or divisive, in your view?

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6 hours ago, Beerman said:

He not only attacked his qualifications.  He attacked his charactor as well.  

Please share with us the language unbecoming a former president used by Obama in that speech. Please share the attacking words used to discuss the republican Senate candidate.

Is it an attack to point out that the fellow lies and has an immoral sexual history to accompany his religious opposition to abortion today? Is it an attack to mention that playing football and becoming famous isn't an indication that someone can govern?

 

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18 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Which part of Obama’s speech was vitriolic or divisive, in your view?

Even before Obama was president have moved beyond the
"He's the best vote for this man" type of endorsement.  We're in the age of political attacks on the opponent (in the Republican case they are attacking Biden, in fact during the governors debate here the opponent had to point out to DeSantis that Biden wasn't running for governor) and going after our opponents qualifications and records.  I don't think Obama spews "vitriol or was divisive" anymore than politics as normal.  Yes he was forceful, yes he was insulting to Walker, and yes he was giving his thoughts on how unqualified he is saying he's a 'celebrity candidate' rather than a serious one.  Was this "professional"?  Perhaps not.  

I find it almost amusing that in 2022 in the age of "Trump won the election" that anyone would be concerned about vitriol and divisiveness.  Politics have been ugly since I've been a voter.  Do I like it? Not necessarily.   I see some political ads and cringe.  I hate what we've normalized.

On 10/28/2022 at 9:07 PM, toomuchbaloney said:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/10/28/us/pelosi-san-francisco-home-attack/heres-what-to-know-about-the-attack?smid=url-share

Gee, I wonder what might have inspired this fellow... how was he radicalized? Who radicalized him?

Aww man, this was insane.  They said he was running around the house looking for her.  Just sad.

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https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-expects-price-covid-vaccine-110-130-per-dose-2022-10-20/

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Pfizer Inc expects to roughly quadruple the price of its COVID-19 vaccine to about $110 to $130 per dose after the United States government's current purchase program expires, Pfizer executive Angela Lukin said on Thursday.

Lukin said she expects the vaccine - currently provided for free to all by the government - will be made available at no cost to people who have private insurance or government paid insurance.

Reuters earlier on Thursday reported that Wall Street was expecting such price hikes due to weak demand for COVID vaccines, which meant vaccine makers would need to hike prices to meet revenue forecasts for 2023 and beyond.

They need to meet revenue forecasts so they'll inflate the costs of vaccination for the 26 million Americans with no health insurance. 

I'm pretty sure that congressional Republicans also tried to starve the federal covid programs of funding this year.  This should all work out to preserve life, right?

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Even before Obama was president have moved beyond the
"He's the best vote for this man" type of endorsement.  We're in the age of political attacks on the opponent (in the Republican case they are attacking Biden, in fact during the governors debate here the opponent had to point out to DeSantis that Biden wasn't running for governor) and going after our opponents qualifications and records.  I don't think Obama spews "vitriol or was divisive" anymore than politics as normal.  Yes he was forceful, yes he was insulting to Walker, and yes he was giving his thoughts on how unqualified he is saying he's a 'celebrity candidate' rather than a serious one.  Was this "professional"?  Perhaps not.  

I find it almost amusing that in 2022 in the age of "Trump won the election" that anyone would be concerned about vitriol and divisiveness.  Politics have been ugly since I've been a voter.  Do I like it? Not necessarily.   I see some political ads and cringe.  I hate what we've normalized.

I'm still waiting for @Chare to clarify what was objectionable or unbecoming a former president, or overly divisive in Obama’s speech.  He posted the remark with the concern or opinion that members like myself aren't as critical of speeches like Obama’s as we are of speeches like Trump's. I'm looking for the areas and language of concern in the speech so that we can discuss it.  

2 hours ago, Tweety said:

Even before Obama was president have moved beyond the
"He's the best vote for this man" type of endorsement.  We're in the age of political attacks on the opponent (in the Republican case they are attacking Biden, in fact during the governors debate here the opponent had to point out to DeSantis that Biden wasn't running for governor) and going after our opponents qualifications and records.  I don't think Obama spews "vitriol or was divisive" anymore than politics as normal.  Yes he was forceful, yes he was insulting to Walker, and yes he was giving his thoughts on how unqualified he is saying he's a 'celebrity candidate' rather than a serious one.  Was this "professional"?  Perhaps not.  

I find it almost amusing that in 2022 in the age of "Trump won the election" that anyone would be concerned about vitriol and divisiveness.  Politics have been ugly since I've been a voter.  Do I like it? Not necessarily.   I see some political ads and cringe.  I hate what we've normalized.

I agree, not any more vitriol or divisive than normal.  

The point was, and I believe you agree, it's not just Republicans who play that way.

 

2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Is it an attack to point out that the fellow lies and has an immoral sexual history to accompany his religious opposition to abortion today? 

LOL.....  Whenever a Democrat is accused of something, you want the smoking gun in the suspect's hand.

He has denied the two accusations.  One accuser is anonymous, speaking via Gloria Alred.

So, yes.  That is a personal attack based on unsubstantiated accusations. 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Beerman said:

LOL.....  Whenever a Democrat is accused of something, you want the smoking gun in the suspect's hand.

He has denied the two accusations.  One accuser is anonymous, speaking via Gloria Alred.

So, yes.  That is a personal attack based on unsubstantiated accusations. 

 

 

Oh, I see.

Unsubstantiated claims are a real deal breaker for Trump supporters... especially when voiced by a former president, eh?

LOL

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

I agree, not any more vitriol or divisive than normal.  

The point was, and I believe you agree, it's not just Republicans who play that way.

 

Agree.  It's been our political climate for many years on both sides.

I agree the accusations are unsubstantiated.  But "yeah I wrote a check and forgot what it was for" while the accuser says it was for an abortion doesn't look good.  It's he said vs. she said.

Regardless Obama seems as baffled as I am that such a man made it this far.  Again I ask, who did we get here?  ?

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12 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Agree.  It's been our political climate for many years on both sides.

I agree the accusations are unsubstantiated.  But "yeah I wrote a check and forgot what it was for" while the accuser says it was for an abortion doesn't look good.  It's he said vs. she said.

Regardless Obama seems as baffled as I am that such a man made it this far.  Again I ask, who did we get here?  ?

So you don't think that political discourse has taken a decidedly different tone since Republicans elevated Trump? 

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