What do you do when admin doesn't have your back?

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I'm going to preface this by saying this is my 3rd year out of nursing school and my first year as a full-time school nurse. I was a substitute school nurse for 1/2 of the year in 2018 and was offered a job at a school that...suspiciously lost 12 teachers, their nurse, and an old secretary to other schools. The Principal has only been with the school for 2 years now and the AP came on halfway through last spring. I have no idea what happened to the old AP.

I was highly demanded by some of the more prominent schools in the district as a sub. I long-term subbed at one school for 6 months and I was told that I needed to come back and sub for them every time. It was just an amazing experience and I worked with staff who were fully supportive and experienced. And when I first came into my current school, things went pretty well. My numbers were high, but I attributed that to the inexperience of the teachers. I would send out emails with tips on helping students with common ailments outside of the health suite and whatnot. And overall, I was told I was doing a good job by the AP. I had a few hiccups here and there, but after a while, the true face of the school started to show.

My principal started by requesting that I call all parents for every visit to "save" myself "from the trouble," which I and my supervisor explained to her was not feasible, but I would attempt to call more often. More time went by and I come to find out she made multiple complaints against me to my supervisor for situations outside of my control and somewhat due to my own lack of experience. I've been trying to adapt and meet her expectations, but I've been thrown under the bus so many times that I don't feel that I can trust my principal to have my back.

i.e. today I sent a student back to class after observing and checking them out after getting knocked on the head with the stall door in the bathroom 15 minutes. Student denied HA/SA/dizziness/somnolence and stated feeling better. Teacher contacted parent 10 minutes later and the parent contacted me literally moments before I got around to making the phone call home due to an altercation that came in that I had to address and call home for. Teacher told parent she was sleeping in class and about the head injury. I literally picked up the phone and was like "oh, hi so and so, I was just about to call you. Blah blah blah came in because she hit her head on the....what? Sleepy? No one told me this. Let me go find her, I'm going to recommend a pickup w/ f/u." Mom was already on her way per the teacher's request. Couldn't find the student because teacher had dropped her off to lunch (sleepy eh?) and then had picked her class back up after calling mom and walked the student to the front office for dismissal. She did not speak to me once. So I went to address the situation with the principal first because I am trying to improve my communication with her. I'm the one who got in trouble and was told: "This is what I heard happened." Proceeds to tell me details I had not heard from the teacher (bruise on the kids forehead) and then she said "the teachers are just going to keep overstepping you if this keeps happening." She didn't even mention correcting the teacher or that not telling me about the student was wrong.

I know I could have worked on communicating with the teacher...but it goes both ways. My health suite was extremely busy and I could barely get around to calling parents because of the constant flow coming into the health suite, today especially with all the fights.

Every time there is a complaint about something from a teacher, I always end up getting these emails late at night saying "you did such and such....and it was wrong." My anxiety keeps going up because of these. I get to work every day scared that she's trying to get me fired or that I'm going to do something wrong. There's just this constant lack of feedback and I'm too scared to talk to her because I can tell she doesn't like me...or maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong.

How have you handled difficult administrators in the past, or currently? I need wisdom. My supervisor is very laid back and doesn't really offer me good advice. Stories of your own experiences are also welcome. I learn well through example.

(P.S. I'm sorry if this is really jumbled. My brain is just fried and I'm kind of falling apart.)

Specializes in School Nursing, Pediatrics.

When I didn't get along with the principal at a school I was at, (we got along fine for 2 years, then all of a sudden she started being a jerk and nit picking everything I said and did, and was horrible). I left and went to another school, and it was the best thing ever, as I am so happy and my principal and the school I am at now is AWESOME! So go with your gut, if you think next year will not be any better, then change when you can! I work in a large district so it was easy for me to change as there are a lot of schools, but check your options.

Specializes in School Nurse.

I tell the teachers to keep the medical liability on me. You (the teachers) don't want to make or not a call and be held accountable for your decision. Let that decision be on me.

Scary legal talk might shake up these bullies!

Specializes in Pelvic Neuroscience and School Nursing.
15 minutes ago, OyWithThePoodles said:

BUT DO NOT COMMUNICATE WITHOUT YOUR SUPERVISOR THERE, that way your words can't be twisted.

Well, this actually happened the other day just now...and it wasn't even when I was going to talk with her. She called my supervisor and told her that I sent a student back to class after the student tried to choke himself. But it was in fact dismissal and the student was in my office with his teacher and counselor all monitoring him until his grandparent came and picked him up. My supervisor called to clarify and I had to explain that what she said didn't even happen.

Like...excuse me?

Specializes in Med-surg, school nursing..

Since you were so loved in other schools, maybe tell your director that as much as you love the job, it's toxic, and you may be forced to quit if you aren't able to transfer because of the toxic environment.

Specializes in Pelvic Neuroscience and School Nursing.
41 minutes ago, OyWithThePoodles said:

Since you were so loved in other schools, maybe tell your director that as much as you love the job, it's toxic, and you may be forced to quit if you aren't able to transfer because of the toxic environment.

I honestly might have to. Thank you.

Specializes in TCU, Dementia care, nurse manager.
On 5/8/2019 at 8:51 AM, jess11RN said:

I think you're realizing why they suspiciously lost 12 teachers, their nurse, secretary (and probably AP) to other schools.

The culture won't change. Personally, I'd be out. No way would I stay in an environment that isn't going to support me and my professional decisions. If they don't have your back with the silly little things, they certainly won't have your back with the big things. Lots of positions are posted this time of year, start looking.

I agree with this.

What are your (OP) considerations? To be tough and tough it out? See the advice above. To have a decent (maybe great, maybe OK - it doesn't all depend on you - that's an ego-minded philosophy that has nothing to do with reality) nursing career? Then keep working to have a decent career - don't stop. Innovate, move on, find good people. There are more good than bad and sometimes the circumstances turn good people into monsters (everyone in the US is stressed.) You still don't have to put up with it.

There is never enough time or perfection in nursing, or anything else for that matter. Anyone who says differently is naive, unaware, or dishonest and has an agenda that has nothing to do with you.

I'm kind of going through the same things with my Principal. He's snapped at me twice already this year, very unprofessional, and for things that he was not right about. He apologized both times but just sucks it happens in the first place. I love our administrative assistants and the vice principal is great. Some teachers are great, and others are obnoxious. I'm just not sure I can put up with this guy and his hot-headedness anymore. A position is opening up at our high school so I'm seriously thinking about moving on. Just like mentioned above, you won't change the culture of the school so you have to determine whether you want to put up with it or leave :(

Specializes in school nursing, ortho, trauma.

I find that in reality, it's usually just a few really toxic employees that really sour the stew. In my case, I think I'm down to only one teacher who i'd really like to retire. The one who is always questioning my judgement, sending kids for nonsense and having the kids come in and saying "Mrs So & So said I need to go home" I've been calling her out on that one lately and the last time when i called her it sounded like it really threw her off... score one point - Flare. I am not saying you can fix every toxic environment or that every toxic environment is worth fixing - sometimes for your own sanity, you just have to find greener pastures. And I agree with the advice to call for for about 2-3 days. Make them sweat it out with a new face who doesn't know the landscape. It's even better if they can't get a sub. When you come back, there is suddenly a whole new appreciation for you.

Specializes in School Nurse.

You could meet with principal to make a stand. A list of what you are willing to do to accommodate the campus needs. Plus, a list of what you need to stay.

Respectful communication, teachers/staff not calling parents to have students picked up, etc. . .

If there is not a positive mutual agreement, then time to cut out.

Ask to be a presenter at the beginning of the year to go over clinic expectations with staff (share with principal first?). There are several threads here to give you ideas of what to go over.

I would do this for the current school and/or your new school!

OK...IM IN CAPS SO YES..IM MAD...

THESE STINKIN TEACHERS!!!!!!!!

I have been known to walk to into a class and change grades in a gradebook and when asked what are you doing?? I say, I'm doing your job because you feel that you are qualified and licensed to do mine.

Enough already!!!!!! argh.... I cant even type aymore, Im so mad.

But I will say...Im sorry this happened to you...if you have a chance to run..Then Run Forest Run!

Specializes in Cardiology, School Nursing, General.

I have been sucking this up for 3 years. If you have a chance to leave, leave

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