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Bear with me for this is going to be a little long. I was covering part of a shift for a co-worker on my scheduled day off. The shift was 7am-730pm and I was working 9 to 3:30 for her on the regular med-surg floor(I work Neuro med-surg normally).

I came in and my co-worker gave me report on her patients and then she left. She told me she did everyone's vitals and morning meds so everyone was set that the only thing she asked me to do was to give her sickle cell patient her PRN morphine. So I went in and accessed the patient and the poor girl was clenching the side of the rails squeezing her eyes shut she was obviously hurting. She was admitted for pain control and dehydration. She had orders for morphine 6mgs IV q2hr. Oxycontin 40mgs q8hrs, ativan 2mgs IV q6hr she also had prns for benadryl and zofran forgot the dosages though..probably 25mgs and 4mgs respectively. So I went in and gave her the morphine and she said it hasnt been working and the other nurse was supposed to get an order for something else. The other nurse made no mention of this to me so I called her doctor.

I spoke to the resident and he was open to my suggestions so I suggested this patient would be a good candidate for a PCA since she was requiring PRNs Q2 and wasn't getting much relief from that I thought a PCA would be good for this patient. Not to mention most sicklers I get on my floor are on a PCA and do well. So I got an order for a fentanyl PCA and the doctor also ordered toradol 30 IV q6 and a one time dose of IVP fentanyl 50mcgs to break the pain she was in since the morphine didnt help and to hold her while I was setting up the PCA. So I gave her the fentanyl and toradol and just after that she said she was feeling a bit better. I gave her the PCA and about an hour and 15 minutes after I set it up for her she was up and sitting in a chair watching TV and drinking cranberry juice where before she was clenching the rails looking(and feeling I am sure) like death warmed over. She was smiling and thanked me and reported her pain down to 3 when it was a 9 before.

Now this is where the trouble started. My co-worker came back shortly after 3:00 to finish the rest of her shift. I gave her report and of course told her about her sickle cell patient how the morphine wasn't working and how I got her a PCA. My co-worker went ballistic on me. She told me this patient was a known drug seeker and scammer how she comes in the hospital all the time for narcotics and 3 hots and a cot and she was going to do everything in her power to get the PCA d/c because she wasn't going to cater to this addict when she had other patients with real problems to deal with. She was also mad that I didn't call her and consult with her about getting HER patients meds changed. I was just covering I should have just followed the med orders and she would be the one calling for order changes not me.

Am I losing it or am I really in the wrong here? This patient was obviously in genuine pain and with a sickle cell diagnosis I would rather treat faked pain then not treat potentially real pain. Also she didn't say one word about this patient being a seeker. She actually asked me to give her patient the morphine. I dont think anything is wrong with calling and getting a patients order changed that was visibly in distress. Its not like I was covering a lunch break. According to this nurse I should have made this poor patient wait 5 plus hours in excruciating pain for her to get back. I also didnt see any drug seeking red flags. She wasn't asking for any of the double D medications(demerol or dilaudid) she wasn't reporting 10 out of 10 pain while laughing on her phone and scarfing down trays of food and her HR was 110..she was in pain.

What would you have done? Would you have waited for your co-worker to get back or would you have called for a different order?

Specializes in Med-Surg/Neuro/Oncology floor nursing..
My thoughts exactly. I've worked with addict nurses and the nurse's response was overkill for such a simple order change unless the PCA prevents her from signing out morphine. The patient was hurting because she was probably diverting it and giving the poor woman saline. She needs more than remedial education, she needs to be in a diversion program with the state board of nursing and prevention of administering narcotics until she completes the program.

Yeah I am definitely in agreement. She really did overreact. The thing is I don't have any hard evidence and making an accusation like that with little to no proof can really have damaging consequences to her career if for some reason she isn't diverting I don't know her I don't work with her normally so I don't know her well enough I was just doing her a favor by covering for her that day.

I did get to talk to my manager about what happened and I did check on the patient before my shift started and she still did have the PCA and my friend who works on that floor said that the patient was doing good and is going to be discharged soon.

I would have done the same thing as you. I'm sorry for your friend's attitude to the situation, however, you took the report and accepted legal responsibility for the patient, that makes you the patients nurse at that time and your judgment goes. Sickle Cell Anemia is an extremely painful disease and it can be easy for nurses to become jaded and make assumptions, however, we have to remember that we can not feel what is going on inside someone's body. Sickle cell patients are frequent flyers to the hospital, however, I tend to think that is because they frequently go into crisis. Ultimately though my opinion doesn't matter. Fact is you made a nursing judgment that was for the benefit of your pt, and you helped relieve their pain, there is no basis for being angry about that.

Yeah I am definitely in agreement. She really did overreact. The thing is I don't have any hard evidence and making an accusation like that with little to no proof can really have damaging consequences to her career if for some reason she isn't diverting I don't know her I don't work with her normally so I don't know her well enough I was just doing her a favor by covering for her that day.

I did get to talk to my manager about what happened and I did check on the patient before my shift started and she still did have the PCA and my friend who works on that floor said that the patient was doing good and is going to be discharged soon.

Agreed and understood. Just be sure to watch closely and don't pick up any more shifts for her. I would also be mindful of this behavior in the future. From my experience this isn't a one time thing, a pattern will become more noticeable now that you've become aware.

Specializes in Psych, HIV/AIDS.

After reading the 50 (plus?) comments, I can't help but wonder how the original nurse covering this patient, treated her (the patient) when she resumed her shift. I guess we will never know.

As Munch stated, the patient was going to be discharged soon, thank God for the excellent care you gave her and the fact that she can go home.

This does indicate a possible diversion issue, may that "nurse" get her comeuppance.

If I were in a sickle cell crisis, I'd be "drug seeking" too.

What a jerk. I agree that this nurse *may* be diverting. It would explain her overboard response to the PCA.

I think these diversion theories may be a little overboard. There are plenty of nurses who resent "drug-seekers" and try their best to foil their perceived plans. A PCA allows far more control for a patient and far less control for a nurse ...and this nurse definitely sounds like the type who likes to be in control. It may be nothing more than that.

Specializes in MedSurg, ICU.

I completely agree with this. It was YOUR patient that you used YOUR nursing experience and skills to provide care to based on what YOU believed to be the ethical and patient-centered. I think you sound like an extremely good nurse.

Specializes in Med-Surg/Neuro/Oncology floor nursing..
I think these diversion theories may be a little overboard. There are plenty of nurses who resent "drug-seekers" and try their best to foil their perceived plans. A PCA allows far more control for a patient and far less control for a nurse ...and this nurse definitely sounds like the type who likes to be in control. It may be nothing more than that.

Yes the whole diverting theory is all speculation and is nothing more than a theory. I would never report her unless I had hard evidence she was diverting medications. She has been working at the hospital for quite a while and my guess is if she is diverting it will show itself soon enough. I'm just glad the patient is doing better. Within the next day or two they are going to start to PO narcotics and discharge her home once they get a PO regimen that works established.

You did the right thing. You used your critical thinking skills and saw the pt was genuinely in pain. She may be a drug seeker but the disease causes lots of pain. Perhaps she should experience it to appreciate the level of pain. Nurse needs a new attitude.

During the time you were working/that's your pt. I'd have done same.

Specializes in ICU.

WOW. That makes me wonder about the nurse who would assume a sickle cell patient isn't in pain. It isn't HER call, anyway, it is the doctor's call.

Specializes in Med-Surg/Neuro/Oncology floor nursing..
You did the right thing. You used your critical thinking skills and saw the pt was genuinely in pain. She may be a drug seeker but the disease causes lots of pain. Perhaps she should experience it to appreciate the level of pain. Nurse needs a new attitude.

That's the thing though the patient didn't really show signs of being a drug seeker. She had maybe one or two admissions to the hospital since 2016 and maybe 4 or 5 visits to the ED since 2016. She isn't on the radar at all before 2016 actually. After the ED visits she was okay for discharge. She also doesn't seem to have a HUGE tolerance to narcotics at all. The 50mcgs of fentanyl made her feel a bit better and 50 mcgs of fentanyl is equal to about 5-6 of morphine. These are doses used actually on naive patients. I think this nurse was just being very judgmental and is jaded. Being the inner-city hospital we are we DO get A LOT of addicts and drug seeking patients, A lot of patients trying to scam the system to get a warm bed to stay, people using the ED as their own private drug store(people come in for pregnancy tests and for RX of Motrin so they don't have to pay for it) The thing to remember is not to paint every patient with the same brush.

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